Eyebrow Raisers

[mking624]

I did not say it was unkind..I said I would let them...it is not their fault if the parents are rude (not saying THEY are)...I would not hold it against the kids..

I don't think anyone here would hold it against the kids, we've all been complaining about the parents. I think what sparked the "kind or unkind" thing (at least in my part) was the fact that it WAS implied by someone that we're not spreading kindness and missing the Disney magic because someone chose not to move....which is why I brought it up.

 

[mmmbop]

#4 reminds me of the mad mothers (and sometimes fathers -- but 95% of the time it happens to me, it's been with mothers) with the strollers.

I think some of you know what I'm talking about.


I go to WDW with my family, and I'm the youngest (soon to be 21). So perhaps we're not "entitled" to go to WDW unlike some people since it's just for kids. But whatever.


The thing that always gets an eyebrow raise from me are the mothers with strollers who RUN INTO YOU. Okay, I don't mean like, "Oops, sorry, my kid dropped the bottle and I lost control of the stroller." That's another thing entirely. These mothers just want everything right at that moment, like because they have kids, they're more entitled to go on more rides or whatever. My last visit, a woman ran her stroller into my heels, knocking me over, which, in turn, lead to me spraining my ankle because of one of these crazy mothers, who didn't even apologize!! That's just wrong on all sorts of levels to me.

Then of course, kids with Heely's. When I went in March, no CMs did anything about it. Perhaps I'm too bitter, but who can enjoy a *vacation* with kids (and mothers) running into them, hurting your heels? Not fun to spend *vacation* with a sprained ankle.

 

[PudgetteD]

I do realize that was a bit tongue in cheek, but in all seriousness, some of us aren't enamored with anyone's kids. Some of us are childless adults there for a little Disney magic, so it isn't always "about the kids." That said, if a well-mannered child politely asked if they could squeeze in, I probably wouldn't say no, but I don't think I should have to feel obligated to let them squeeze in just because they're kids.

I totally agree! (DH and I have been to WDW many times with DS8 and DD15, but will be going without them for our anniversary in September) You're so right in saying it isn't always about the kids. Think about how many anniversary trips and honeymoons are taken at WDW. Should those guests be obligated to provide a good viewing spot for someone else's children, after all, they paid for their magic as well.

 

[PudgetteD]

The more posts I read, the more scared I am of going! I am a pretty passive person, but I have NO tolerance for rude and inconsiderate people and I WILL let you know exactly how I feel. If my family staked out a spot and someone shoved their way in, I would lose it. I am starting to get really worried that I may be kicked out of the park!

Nah. . .I can make Rambo look like Little Mary Sunshine when I'm in "defensive Mommy" mode, and they still let me come back.

 

[Schmeck]

As the person who raised all the questions about safety/legal issues, thank you to those that came to my defense.

No, my 13 yr old and 16 yr old are not on leashes...

About the legal point of view - you've agreed to watch some stranger's kid, and something bad happens. You bet you'll be named in the lawsuit! The best bet there, if you decide to let the child up front, would be to let an adult come too, but would there be room, or would you end up losing your space?

I don't feel paranoid about my children, but I also don't feel like handing them over to complete strangers, or giving any of the psychos out there an easier time getting to my kids.

 

[allie_to_you]

About the legal point of view - you've agreed to watch some stranger's kid, and something bad happens. You bet you'll be named in the lawsuit! The best bet there, if you decide to let the child up front, would be to let an adult come too, but would there be room, or would you end up losing your space?

I don't feel paranoid about my children, but I also don't feel like handing them over to complete strangers, or giving any of the psychos out there an easier time getting to my kids.

????????????????? What? You've got to be kidding me? You think that just because someone lets your child up closer to the parade that they now have some responsibility for your child? I don't think so. If you can't be close enough to see your child, then you shouldn't let them get away from you and if your child can't get close enough because you can't see or be with them, then you ought to get there sooner, but you would have no right, that I can see, to blame someone else for something happening to your child just because they were standing next to that person at the parade/show.

 

[inloveindisney]

????????????????? What? You've got to be kidding me? You think that just because someone lets your child up closer to the parade that they now have some responsibility for your child? I don't think so. If you can't be close enough to see your child, then you shouldn't let them get away from you and if your child can't get close enough because you can't see or be with them, then you ought to get there sooner, but you would have no right, that I can see, to blame someone else for something happening to your child just because they were standing next to that person at the parade/show.

Well, I can absolutely see this lawsuit happening though. Maybe not with you, but there are some parents out there that would look at it this way. They would say "you were right there, why didn't you try to stop my child from falling".
I don't know how much something like that would hold up, but I can definitely see it happening.

 

[QueenGoblin]

Ummm...I wouldn't let a kid in front of me because they are "younger," I'd let them in front because they are short. And yes, if I noticed I was blocking the view of a short adult I would try to help out there too.

My DD loved the parades when we took her last year, in fact they have ruined all the local parades for her because nothing else is up to snuff. But we would never have been able to sit with her for an hour to wait for them. She would have made us and everyone around us miserable. Now before anyone jumps down my throat, no, I did not shove my DD in front of people who had waited. We found places where we could see despite the crowds and DH would lift DD up to see. It was fine, she was perfectly happy. But as the parent of small children, while I totally respect the right of older children, childfree people, etc. etc. to enjoy their vacations, in many ways they are the ones making it impossible to get a good seat for the parade UNLESS you are willing to sit around for an hour. It's kind of like people who line up to get onto an airplane with assigned seats before the flight attendant even begins boarding Many of us with little kids can't do it, or else, if we did, you would come here and find posts about how there was this family waiting for a parade and their 3 year old was whining and complaining and running all around for an hour and why didn't those parents just take that kid back to the hotel, didn't they realize what a pain the kid was being/how "tired" they were, whatever.
I don't have a solution, I just wish people didn't assume that parents with small kids arriving "late" (and by some people's definition, late would be anything under an hour) for a parade are rude, pushy, entitled, whatever. Maybe they were just trying to be good parent and understanding their children's limits.
BTW, again, I stress, I am NOT excusing parents who push their kids ahead of people who have been waiting.

And re the lawsuit issue...it doesn't mean they would win, but that wouldn't stop some people from naming you in a suit. You can sue anyone about anything.

 

[Subrbnmommy]

About the legal point of view - you've agreed to watch some stranger's kid, and something bad happens. You bet you'll be named in the lawsuit! The best bet there, if you decide to let the child up front, would be to let an adult come too, but would there be room, or would you end up losing your space?

I don't feel paranoid about my children, but I also don't feel like handing them over to complete strangers, or giving any of the psychos out there an easier time getting to my kids.

I agree with the above. That's why when we were at MVMCP and there was a family behind us, we let the mom come in front with her DD. She crouched down behind her child's stroller next to my DD and I.

I also would never let my DD go in front of people to watch a parade where I couldn't see her.

 

[MickeyNicki]

I think the only thing I am guilty of is the refillable mugs at other resorts...I dont see a problem with this since it seems that everyone does it and some people are brazen enough to use baby bottles, thermoses, rubbermaid bottles etc....and usually there are a lot of CM's wiping down the drink area and tables..dont tell me they are not aware of people doing this...then never say boo about it

 

[i*heart*gusgus]

It's ALL about the kids.

Tell them to have a great time at Pleasure Island!

I guess they might as well delete the Adults&Solos and Weddings&Honeymoons boards.

 

[disneyfantotheend]

Well, I can absolutely see this lawsuit happening though. Maybe not with you, but there are some parents out there that would look at it this way. They would say "you were right there, why didn't you try to stop my child from falling".
I don't know how much something like that would hold up, but I can definitely see it happening.

Very true, because sadly, we live in a sue happy country. And everyone wonders why insurances are so high.

 

[RACHELSMOM1]

I find it very comical that so many adults want to sit on the curb. Wait until you are older and find it too difficult to get up from your beloved spot on that tiny curb made of concrete!!! No, I am not making fun of anyone who wants to sit on the small concrete curb, but one day you won't dare sit on that curb. You will hurt and cry from the pain when you try to move your tired and weary body from that cement!!! I never thought my day would come, but it did! The curb is made for children, just my opinion!!

 

[mking624]

I find it very comical that so many adults want to sit on the curb. Wait until you are older and find it too difficult to get up from your beloved spot on that tiny curb made of concrete!!! No, I am not making fun of anyone who wants to sit on the small concrete curb, but one day you won't dare sit on that curb. You will hurt and cry from the pain when you try to move your tired and weary body from that cement!!! I never thought my day would come, but it did! The curb is made for children, just my opinion!!

Well you really could be laughing at the children too...because they'll go through it as well one day. But since that day is not yet here...why laugh at people over it?

 

[Tink2312]

I'm sure you and your kids are really polite about getting infront of people at the parade and you probably do it only when there are taller adults behind BUT there are some people who abuse this - they get there kid squished in first, then the buggy, then themselves, then the camera and tripod... you get the picture!
By all means, if you ask politely, your child can sit on the curb infront of me - so long as they don't sit on my feet, spill their drink all over me or get popcorn in my shoes - but if I've been waiting there for an hour before the parade and you've walked up 10 minutes before the start, it's not fair to push your whole group infront
With this post, I mean no offence to the original poster (or anyone else on the DIS) who i'm sure are perfectly fair and polite

 

[RivaLJ]

About #4
Perhaps someone can explain to me the allure of watching the parades on Main Street and having to deal with pushy people. We watch the parades in Frontierland and have never had to deal with this issue.

 

[melsmom12]

I think there is a big difference between a polite parent who sees a little extra space near you on the curb and asks - POLITELY! - if her child can squeeze in and an obnoxious parent who pushes her kid toward you to fill in a spot that simply doesn't exist.

Most of us on here - I'd like to think - are sophisticated enough to know the difference between these two scenarios. And deal with them accordingly. Of course, it's usually not the kid's fault if they have nasty commando parents, but it's very easy to say, "I'm really sorry, there's just no room up here. We've been waiting for quite a while." And then turn your attention back to your group. They might mumble and grumble about you, but they'll generally move on, right?

 

[Princess Stitch]

Guess I'll throw my 2 cents in as well.. why not? I'm one of those that will wait an hour to see a parade if it's important to me. I know that I"m short and I know that in order to be able to see I need to be in the front so I plan accordingly. I may let a child in front if they're polite about it, but I certainly don't feel entitled to give up my spot for anyone.

As for eyebrow raisers, I get some looks when I go have my picture taken with characters. I don't understand why people feel this is such an odd thing for an adult to do. I didn't get to go to Disney much when I was younger (only 2 trips that I actually remember, and I was 12 and 14 at the time), so I'm living it up now! I wont' push in front of kids to go see them or anything, but if I wait my turn just like everyone else why shoudln't I get a picture with Mickey?

 

[pixiemel]

Tell them to have a great time at Pleasure Island!

I guess they might as well delete the Adults&Solos and Weddings&Honeymoons boards.

Assuming this is an attempt at sarcasm, maybe the majority needs to re-read the OP; then re-read the subsequent replies instead of spinning this entire thread into something that it isn't in order to have something to argue and fuss about.

 

[dogluva]

And what you said about the woman who didn't want her child sitting with strangers- HOW DARE YOU!? Who are you to criticise a MOTHER for worrying about being apart from her child with thousands of people around them that they know nothing about?? Anything can happen to children (yes even at WDW as posted!!) You really make me angry!! And what have leashes got to do with anything?? I agree with them 100%- better safe than sorry!


Okay, you're right. I apologize. That wasn't necessary. It was more aimed toward her comment of being liable for some kid standing in front of her, but the leash comment was rude. Sorry.

I was actually thinking myself that I would not want my children up front while I stood behind a bunch of people. It is not about being paranoid-it is about being safe. I could never trust my children to stand there. They would get nervous and start looking for me and then freak out if they couldn't see me. And the leash thing, obviously she has never taken a small child to Disney, especially one with ADHD and very little impulse control.

I found the paranoid comment very rude as well.