early june crowds - gay days

[callahanjulie10]

I, too, did NOT find vhoffman's post offensive. I feel that everyone should have their right to raise their children and have their own beliefs and morals that they live by- just as Valentine lives by his or her beliefs and morals.
I do feel that jumping on someone for expressing their feelings is offensive. Regardless if you agree or not. We are all here because of one reason- we LOVE WDW!!!

I have gone to WDW during this time without noticing anything that I felt was inapproiate- but that doesn't mean that next time something will not happen in front of me or my child. There are so many people from different cultures, with different social standards that anything could happen. BUT I have to take that chance because I have an addition!

Go and enjoy- if your child sees something- be honest with him or her. You will be the one to instill the morals and values you feel are important to your child- you are the parent.

Let's just lighten up and all be friends!!!!

 

[AZKathy]

We have been to WDW during this time for two years now. We just avoid the specific days and go and have fun. My children did not ever see anything that they would question "What's that? Why are they doing that?", so I would not worry too much about that.

Most of the weekends have heavier crowds and this weekend will have more heavy crowds than usual, so I would just wait a few days and start your vacation on the Monday or travel on the Sunday. This is just for crowds not because of the events for the weekend. My DH has views similar to Rush and we still visit WDW during this time, so that part is no big deal...it is the crowds. Add time at the end and avoid the crowds.

 

[jaross]

We have been there in early June with no problems with crowds. It was alot of fun and the heat was not over bearing. I find we can get so much more into a day if it's not 98 degrees and 102% humidity.

I know this is off topic, but this thread reminded me of a funny experience that can be applied to the other off topic stuff. I believe that kids will only make a big deal out of what you make a big deal.

We were at St. Martin (sp?), a french island. Being European culture, the beaches were all topless or nude. We chose a topless beach. My boys were 4 & 8, my nephew was also 8. I explained to them that they would see topless women and I would prefer that they didn't point and shout!

We got there, rented them boogie boards, and stayed for six hours. They did not notice one topless woman in all that time. And, yes, they were everywhere, including a few nudies! But, they did ask why the men were wearing shiny underwear into the water (Euopean speedos). LOL

My point is that your kids will react with kindness and tolerance to anyone different (not just same sex couples) if that's how you treat people who are "different" from you!

Just my two cents..

Chris

 

[wilderness01]

I too think that everyone is entitled to their own opinion without getting flamed. That said, I am straight, married with children and could care less if people are straight or gay as long as both groups don't have any public displays of affection. We were just at WDW this winter and there were 2 gay ladies sitting next to each other, dressed alike, holding hands. Once we were off the bus our son asked us if they were men or women? And why were they dressed alike? We said they were women and maybe they just liked the same clothes. He stated he thought maybe they were sisters, we said nothing. We answered his questions (he is 10) and let it go. With that said, we were also at a amuzement park last June that had gay days. This person (still don't know if the person was a man or woman/don't care) had as many piercings as one could believe, flamboyant makeup on and a very explicit saying on it's shirt along with the gay flag. I found this very offensive. I say let everyone live their own lives but you don't have to put anything on display, especially in front of children. That goes for straight people as well. Let kids be kids for as long as they can!

Now back to the OP question.......go and have a good time. Plan your day with lots of breaks due to the heat. Have a wonderful time.

 

[tinkie]

A wise man once said, "when it comes to fashion, go with the flow, when it comes to morals stand firm against the tide.

I agree with vhoffman and I'm glad he/she said it. I've never heard of "straight days" at Disney. IF we don't protect our children from immorality than who will? No, we cannot be sure our kids won't witness a gay pda on a regular day nor can we be sure they won't see two straight people fondling each other on a park bench. But we can have sense enough not to purposefully take them during "gay days" Or if they had "groping day" or "anti-foreigner" day......we shouldn't allow ourselves to sit back and go with the flow of society just because its easier or seems "nicer". Kids don't need to be confused. jmho

 

[SuBeat]

If someone would like to have "straight days" at WDW all they have to do is organize it. Gay days is not sponsored, or organized by WDW. Any group wishing to gather together is welcome to.

You seem to be under the impression that you would be more likely to see public displays during the Gay Day gathering (if I'm mistaken, I apologize). Why is that? From what I have read on these and other boards, rowdier crowds can be found at other events throughout the year. Personally, I don't care to see ANYONE making out in Disney World, but a little handholding or a peck on the cheek isn't going to send me over the edge. And if children are confused, usually a calm, non-judgemental explanation can set their little minds at ease. Several suggestions on handling this have been given on this thread already.

Finally, I imagine the majority of people visiting WDW in early June are all there for the same reason, to share a wonderful vacation with those close to them. There is nothing immoral about that.

 

[tinkie]

You are mistaken. Thanks for the apology. You have the right to your ideas of how to parent and I have mine. Nuff said.

 

[Samirella]

Originally posted by AdventurerKat
Funny...you would think gay people only go to WDW that week each year.

Apparently, none of them work there, either.

 

[tinkie]

I thought my post was very clear. I am not suggesting that we can avoid all gay people....but that to attend on gay days is purposefully exposing your child to it. As another poster pointed out, no doubt on those days (as opposed to others) they may be more "obvious" about thier relationships - just as you see in gay parades...they are celebrating. That's fine, that's great. I just don't want my kids to be around it. Just as I wouldn't want them witnessing a Klu Klux Klan rally or a Black Sabbath concert.

 

[Samirella]

Originally posted by tinkie
I thought my post was very clear. I am not suggesting that we can avoid all gay people....but that to attend on gay days is purposefully exposing your child to it.

You do realize the gay isn't contagious, don't you? I would hope that even if your children noticed anything differrent that you would have a good enough relationship with them to be able to talk with them in an unbiased, non-bashig way. Tolerance doesn't mean you have to agree with it.

 

[tinkie]

Once again, Samirella, you are confused about what I am saying. I'm not bashing anyone. I'm not saying I believe homosexuality is contagious. You are continually trying to put words in my mouth. Please do not do that.
I do talk to my children about homosexuality among many other issues and I do teach them to respect everyone no matter who they are or what choices they have made, but I also teach them God's truths and how they should live THEIR lives accordingly. I'm not trying to teach anybody else or change anybody else. I am responsible for my own children and their upbringing though. I take that God-given responsibility very seriously. If you continue to try to goad me into saying ugly and bashing things about homosexuals, I'm afraid you are wasting your time. I have no such desire. Can we end this now?

 

[IloveDMB]

First, a little off topic, but for the people who are afraid of what their children might be exposed to at Gay Days, have you ever been to WDW when colleges have Spring Break?

I was, and I saw stuff I really wish wasn't done in public. It just seemed embarassing to them and me. One little incident was going to the hotel hot tub and walking in on a very "private" moment, if you know what I mean.

To the OP, I've heard the crowds at the beginning of June are very manageable. DouglasF wrote a great trip report about his experience in the beginning of June. I'm going to try to find his trip report for you.

 

[IloveDMB]

Here is DouglasF's Trip Report:

http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=475207

Hope this helps.

 

[SuBeat]

I don't think anyone has tried to goad you into saying anything. How could anyone make you say something you don't believe? You compared Gay Days to a KKK rally all by yourself.

 

[tinkie]

Wow..you are really reaching here to try to find something, anything to be mad or insulted about....NO , dear, I did NOT compare it to a kkk rally I was listing other things that I also would not purposefully expose my child to in attempt to make more understandable what I was saying. GROW UP . Again, I ask you not to put words in my mouth.


I don't bash, disrespect, hurt, offend, stare at, laugh at, make fun of, hold in contempt or otherwise insult anyone NO MATTER their sexual preference, ethnic origin, professional position, etc., nor have I ever....nor do I teach my children to.

I do make choices (and they are my choices) about what I expose them to ....and I choose not to take them to Gay Days at Disney and I choose not to take them to Gay Pride Parades here in my hometown. I don't really care what you do with your own children.

Why is that SO difficult for you to understand? Or is it that you actually want someone to be vile and full of contempt? Looks to me like YOU are having the problem being tolerant of another's ideas and choices....i.e. MINE. Maybe you should think about that instead of spending so much time and energy BASHING me. have a nice day.

p.s. to the other poster - I do understand that straight people on spring break or any other time may be doing inappropriate things in the park and so if they had a "Free Love" day - I wouldn't take my kids to THAT. Again, I have no problem with gay people being at Disney - I just choose not to take my kids when clearly they will be more "celebratory" during their celebration week.

 

[hyzdufan]

So ANYWAY...how about them crowds in early June?

Why can't we all just get along?

 

[tinkie]

Originally posted by hyzdufan
So ANYWAY...how about them crowds in early June?

Why can't we all just get along?

I suppose we could if everyone could "allow" others to have and to voice their opinions without throwing them into the fire.....

I'm done though....I'm in a GOOD mood because I'm going to Disney!!!!

 

[SuBeat]

Originally posted by tinkie
Wow..you are really reaching here to try to find something, anything to be mad or insulted about....NO , dear, I did NOT compare it to a kkk rally I was listing other things that I also would not purposefully expose my child to in attempt to make more understandable what I was saying. GROW UP . Again, I ask you not to put words in my mouth.


I don't bash, disrespect, hurt, offend, stare at, laugh at, make fun of, hold in contempt or otherwise insult anyone NO MATTER their sexual preference, ethnic origin, professional position, etc., nor have I ever....nor do I teach my children to.

I do make choices (and they are my choices) about what I expose them to ....and I choose not to take them to Gay Days at Disney and I choose not to take them to Gay Pride Parades here in my hometown. I don't really care what you do with your own children.

Why is that SO difficult for you to understand? Or is it that you actually want someone to be vile and full of contempt? Looks to me like YOU are having the problem being tolerant of another's ideas and choices....i.e. MINE. Maybe you should think about that instead of spending so much time and energy BASHING me. have a nice day.

p.s. to the other poster - I do understand that straight people on spring break or any other time may be doing inappropriate things in the park and so if they had a "Free Love" day - I wouldn't take my kids to THAT. Again, I have no problem with gay people being at Disney - I just choose not to take my kids when clearly they will be more "celebratory" during their celebration week.

Why is it that those that shout the loudest about all of us being tolerant of their opinions, never want to hear anyone else's? It's seems you are hunky dory about hearing opinions until they disagree with your own. As much as I DO disagree with you, I never once said you didn't have the right to believe as you do.

BTW I haven't "bashed" you dear, and responding to you has taken up very little of my time or energy. Oh, and I have "GROWN UP" quite nicely too.

 

[tinkie]

Originally posted by SuBeat
Why is it that those that shout the loudest about all of us being tolerant of their opinions, never want to hear anyone else's? It's seems you are hunky dory about hearing opinions until they disagree with your own. As much as I DO disagree with you, I never once said you didn't have the right to believe as you do.

BTW I haven't "bashed" you dear, and responding to you has taken up very little of my time or energy. Oh, and I have "GROWN UP" quite nicely too.

Please show me how I haven't wanted to hear your opinion...and I mean of this issue not your opinion of my opinion. Two very different things...


forget it, I'd have more luck reasoning with my cat

 

[CanadaPT]

I understand that the weather can be kind of rainy during June as well so I wonder if that will disperse the crowds a bit? I was reading that during Gay days it is most crowded on the saturday at MK and Sunday at Epcot so I would just avoid those days, out of respect of crowds and not the people there!