DUES Info! - All resorts dues have been released

[Tatebeck]

Wrong. After the natural gas debacle, might sit one or two out with the laughing emojis.

You hire staff and pay wages and benefits whether a room is cleaned daily or every two days. If you clean a room every 2 days, you use half the chemicals you would use if you clean every day.

DVC cleans rooms 2-3 times a week, not 7 days a week. So you’re using significantly fewer chemicals and laundry. But you pay a person a salary regardless.

It’s basic math. If DVC cleaned zero rooms a day, they’d spend nothing on chemicals. But they’d still pay wages. Hotels clean the same room every day of the week. DVC, 2-3 days a week tops.

There was no debacle? You were incorrect there too

If you aren't cleaning each room every day you obviously wouldn't hire the same amount of people as somewhere that is cleaning every day. Do you really think they are hiring 7 people and having 6 of them just sit around all day, not cleaning but still collecting pay? Are you serious?? . Hmm, Maybe one more for good measure . That is hilarious.

The members in the room are still using things, dirtying them up during the time that there is no cleaning, and using up the disposable things that still need replaced. Also, if you clean a room that has been stayed in 7 days vs only 1 day, I can all but guarantee that you will use more chemicals during a single clean on the room that has been dirtying for 7 days. Now you may use less than 7x than the place that cleans daily, but you will still use a proportionally higher amount compared to the labor. (1 cleaning x 1.x of chemicals and replacing 7 days of disposables is a higher non-labor cost percentage than 1 cleaning using just 1x the chemicals and replacing 1 day of disposables)



I couldn't resist

 

[Tatebeck]

More power to you! There’s a few $10k+ dues bills around here lol. I’d love to have that dues bill - if I could just get the buy-in cost waived

I'm close, I think I am still under, but I'm not gonna do the math yet

Just over 1k points, but most of my dues are still under $10

 

[Genie+]

I'm close, I think I am still under, but I'm not gonna do the math yet

Welp I’m at $1,750 for 2026. Which sounds good until I think about how it’s not enough points to cover all our needs so we keep renting, paying cash and buying OTUP too. Those add up pretty quick!

 

[zackiedawg]

I'm just happy I got in as early as I did - when $20K got me 440 points at Boardwalk and though I don't remember exactly what the dues were back in 1996, I feel like they were something like $3 PP. It's gone WAY up since then, but if I total up buy-in and all dues to date, and weigh against what it would cost to stay in a 1-bedroom villa 20-25 nights a year since 1996, I'm way way ahead of the game. Even as the dues keep increasing until the contract expires, I'll have definitely gotten my money's worth...the painful part is if I want to keep doing the DVC thing when my Boardwalk contract is up, the buy-in is so much higher now - I don't know if I'll be able to justify it, or if I'll even be able to walk around Disney that often when I'm 74 years old!

 

[VGCgroupie]

I couldn't resist

Just commenting for this part

 

[RuntheMouse]

Did my math. My dues are $759 more in 2026 than 2025 across my 1156 points.

I have officially broke 10k a year in dues. Grand total...

$10,675.47

We’re crossing over $6000 next year! So worth it but .

 

[Stank]

There was no debacle? You were incorrect there too

If you aren't cleaning each room every day you obviously wouldn't hire the same amount of people as somewhere that is cleaning every day. Do you really think they are hiring 7 people and having 6 of them just sit around all day, not cleaning but still collecting pay? Are you serious?? . Hmm, Maybe one more for good measure . That is just too hilarious.

The members in the room are still using things, dirtying them up during the time that there is no cleaning, and using up the disposable things that still need replaced. Also, if you clean a room that has been stayed in 7 days vs only 1 day, I can all but guarantee that you will use more chemicals during a single clean on the room that has been dirtying for 7 days. Now you may use less than 7x than the place that cleans daily, but you will still use a proportionally higher amount compared to the labor. (1 cleaning x 1.x of chemicals is a higher cost percentage of chemicals than 1 cleaning using just 1x the chemicals)



I couldn't resist

Yeah, and all utilities have their books scrutinized by state regulators and have to be approved (unlike DVC dues) by those regulators.

Yet I’m paying 2-3x the prevailing natural gas price, as are natural gas customers across the country, despite being told the commodity has zero markup.

Again, there’s reality vs. what should happen.

"No, natural gas does not have zero markup for utility customers; the cost of the natural gas commodity is passed through to consumers without a markup, but the total bill includes other charges like delivery costs, infrastructure spending, and taxes. The utility company does not profit from the price of the gas itself, but it charges a separate fee to cover the costs of the pipes, maintenance, and other infrastructure needed to deliver the gas to you"

If you want to go buy, store, and deliver gas to yourself at the market rate then go ahead. Idk how you expect other people to do it for you for free...

See the bolded text. Speaks for itself.

The rest is just laughable as your argument is DVC housekeeping costs are majority non-labor housekeeping costs.

 

[Genie+]

Isn’t Riviera getting a $.60 tax credit this year? And only $.40 increase in dues.

 

[VGCgroupie]

Isn’t Riviera getting a $.60 tax credit this year? And only $.40 increase in dues.

Should be yes. And VGF will get a credit, I cant believe dues will get even better for VGF! https://dvcnews.com/dvc-program-men...274-2025-property-assessments-and-unofficial-

 

[Tatebeck]

See the bolded text. Speaks for itself.

The rest is just laughable as your argument is DVC housekeeping costs are majority non-labor housekeeping costs.

Sorry if I trust the government inspected and regulated company over just your questionable word I guess?

-------------------

from your quote up above "your argument is DVC housekeeping costs are majority non-labor housekeeping costs"

That isn't actually what I said at all. We are talking about just the increase from the past year (or the estimated increase for next year technically) not the total budget of housekeeping.

Unless they have broken down the budget further I have zero solid idea what percentage of the "housekeeping" budget is labor vs non-labor, especially since DVC is a very nonstandard housekeeping model.

What the number appears to show is that the increase in non-labor costs just over the past year may have been higher than the increases in labor. AKA The recent inflation of products outpacing the previously agreed upon increase in labor from 2023 before much of the inflation. Or it could be that they chose/had to increase their pay quicker than the agreement we are looking at required in order to attract new workers.

Either of which I think is totally possible. But I still cannot comment on the total or the percentage of housekeeping costs as labor vs non-labor unless I have the numbers.



Oh yeah, and

 

[VGCgroupie]

Should be yes. And VGF will get a credit, I cant believe dues will get even better for VGF! https://dvcnews.com/dvc-program-men...274-2025-property-assessments-and-unofficial-

I should rephrase this. They are getting a credit but not sure how exactly it's applied. .60 seems like alot. But yay for RIV if is .60

 

[BeachClub2014]

Not to get into the middle of the debate between @Stank and @Tatebeck , but a 17% jump in housekeeping line item at BLT does seem a bit odd. Is it an outlier compared to other resorts? Perhaps they are increasing staffing levels? If the increase is a result of current inflationary pressure on wages, supplies, and materials, then those same inflationary pressures would exist at all of the other resorts, wouldn't they?

 

[MagicDVC]

I should rephrase this. They are getting a credit but not sure how exactly it's applied. .60 seems like alot. But yay for RIV if is .60

It'll be line item applied to the final statement in Dec once budgets are approved. We got a credit back in 2018 or 19 when they had to readjust how the properties were appraised by the County.

 

[Chili327]

I agree. This new IKEA quality stuff they used at Poly Tower and VDH is really gonna come back to bite them in the upcoming years.

And will get paid for again by dues. lol

 

[VGCgroupie]

Just to see if me and others were right about listings after dues. As of right now https://www.dvcforless.com/ shows 964 listings.

 

[AstroBlasters]

I’m close to $19k in dues for 2026.

 

[Tatebeck]

Not to get into the middle of the debate between @Stank and @Tatebeck , but a 17% jump in housekeeping line item at BLT does seem a bit odd. Is it an outlier compared to other resorts? Perhaps they are increasing staffing levels? If the increase is a result of current inflationary pressure on wages, supplies, and materials, then those same inflationary pressures would exist at all of the other resorts, wouldn't they?

By all means please do please release me from this prison

On topic, they should generally increase at all the resorts, but not necessarily the same amounts due to differences in the resorts, point charts, etc. Higher point charts will help keep housekeeping increases lower, spread out resorts like the cabins will make them more expensive, resorts with extra bathrooms may require more cleaning, etc. They could have hired more staff like you say, underestimated in years past, or something completely different

 

[Hubalorian]

2025 AK Dues on 200 points = $1,928
2025 VGF Dues on 200 Points = $1,586
2026 CCV dues on 275 Points = $2,478
2026 VGF dues on 200 points = $1,662

So, in 2025 I paid $3,514 on 400 points. In 2026 I will pay $4140 on 475 points. So a $626 increase from last year with 75 more points. I’ll take it! Was just able to actually take the time to do the math

 

[VGCgroupie]

I’m close to $19k in dues for 2026.

I will use you as an example to soften the blow when I tell my husband our new grand total.

 

[eticketplease]

I picked the cheapest points season (Sep), and compared the cheapest 1-bedroom you could get at each resort for a 4-night stay Fri - Tue (I did this because that's specifically what I was looking to book and always travel to Disney in September):

Good thing you picked one bedrooms as otherwise CFW is out