Drunk 4 year old steals Christmas presents

[Keli]

This story stretches credibility way too far IMHO. I think there is more going on here than has been reported.
Whatever the situation it's obvious that poor boy and his mom need help.

 

[luvsJack]

Sounds like much of the fault lies with his father. He wants to do bad things to go to jail so he can be with his dad--thats what his mom said. He could be doing things he see on TV (Cops comes to mind) thinking that they will put him in jail. Its hard sometimes to get in a kid's mind and figure out what the heck they are thinking.

 

[zachnsamsmommy]

This happened in my state...and the comments, and sadly, the jokes are never ending.

I feel very sorry for the mother...she is very, very, young, and it doesn't seem like she has enough help. I really think her little boy needs psychological couseling...bad. To drink, steal, and put on a dress? What a sad, sad situation.

 

[Disneyadore]

Balloon-boy part 2 ??

 

[TinkPinkPoem]

That is so sad. Imagine what the little guy must have been going through.

His mother is only 21 and has a lot on her plate at the moment. As others have said she may be doing her best but she needs help. It's probably too much to bare for both of them and this probably was the little boy's cry for help.

Dress, beer and burglary.. The kid has issues

For some reason, I'm more disturbed about him wearing the dress than the rest of the story. Dunno why.

I can't see how him wearing a dress is disturbing as the poor boy was under the influence while doing so. Correct me if I'm wrong.

I am more disturbed by the fact that the press released the boy's name.

 

[Jennasis]

I can't see how him wearing a dress is disturbing as the poor boy was under the influence while doing so. Correct me if I'm wrong.

I am more disturbed by the fact that the press released the boy's name.

No you're not wrong...it's your opinion and opinions are never wrong.

My opinion is that him putting the dress he stole ON is a whole 'nuther level of WTH. Kids run away...kids sneak beer...kids steal. The dress wearing seems to be a whole new cry for HELP.

 

[cheermom1]

No you're not wrong...it's your opinion and opinions are never wrong.

My opinion is that him putting the dress he stole ON is a whole 'nuther level of WTH. Kids run away...kids sneak beer...kids steal. The dress wearing seems to be a whole new cry for HELP.

OH MY he is 4!! he probably didn't even think about it being a dress???

 

[pilesoflaundry]

No you're not wrong...it's your opinion and opinions are never wrong.

My opinion is that him putting the dress he stole ON is a whole 'nuther level of WTH. Kids run away...kids sneak beer...kids steal. The dress wearing seems to be a whole new cry for HELP.

Most 4 year olds don't sneak beer though so the dress wearing doesn't seem like that much more of a stretch. If he was 12 I would say ok. To a 4 year old it's something his friend wears or maybe he did know it would get him attention. Who knows.

It's just sad all the way around. The comment about kids do these things by the mom blows me away the most because I'm pretty sure most kids don't do these things.

 

[Jennasis]

Most 4 year olds don't sneak beer though so the dress wearing doesn't seem like that much more of a stretch. If he was 12 I would say ok. To a 4 year old it's something his friend wears or maybe he did know it would get him attention. Who knows.

It's just sad all the way around. The comment about kids do these things by the mom blows me away the most because I'm pretty sure most kids don't do these things.

This.

On the plus side...if there is a plus side...the kid and mom are on DCFS radar now and will hopefully be able to get the help they both need.

 

[LisaNJ25]

OH MY he is 4!! he probably didn't even think about it being a dress???

Exactly...

 

[Jennasis]

OH MY he is 4!! he probably didn't even think about it being a dress???

Nobody knows what he was thinking. Even the mom was just hazarding a guess as to why he did all of that. Roll your eyes all you want. It's only my opinion.

 

[bumbershoot]

I read the quote differently than some here...

"Kids do things like this and it's out of your control, you can do the best you can as a mother, everyone makes mistakes, it was an honest mistake," she said.

If you hear it out loud, she could have easily been saying something like "when kids do things like this it's out of your control". NOT that she's saying "oh, kids do things like this, I can't control it".

The way she said it is really ambiguous.


I was dealing with similarly heavy issues at 4, though the corrupt San Jose cops loved my dad so he was never arrested, let alone in jail...glad I never did anything like this. My mom was dealing with enough. And she was 29 when I was 4, though she was married at 17. I'm sure she was glad many times that they didn't have kids for 8 years after marriage...

 

[dismom2]

I highly doubt the mother is "doing her best". She definately is responsible---to what degree, nobody knows yet--- we don't know the entire story, but I have heard and read enough to know that this child has a history of 'issues', has been exposed to a lot of bad things, and the mother didn't do enough for the child.


First of all, women need to quit dating total losers/criminals (have you seen dad's rap sheet?)

They need to quit having children with these losers (the children are the one's who suffer).

They need to be responsible for the environment their children grow up in.

They need to accept personal responsibility when they fail.

They need to divorce the loser daddy BEFORE the child/children are screwed up mentally because of them.

No mom, these things don't "just happen". And it wasn't an "honest mistake".
Your kid is screwed up and you need to take a long hard look at why.

 

[dhcoffey]

I highly doubt the mother is "doing her best". She definately is responsible---to what degree, nobody knows yet--- we don't know the entire story, but I have heard and read enough to know that this child has a history of 'issues', has been exposed to a lot of bad things, and the mother didn't do enough for the child.


First of all, women need to quit dating total losers/criminals (have you seen dad's rap sheet?)

They need to quit having children with these losers (the children are the one's who suffer).

They need to be responsible for the environment their children grow up in.

They need to accept personal responsibility when they fail.

They need to divorce the loser daddy BEFORE the child/children are screwed up mentally because of them.

No mom, these things don't "just happen". And it wasn't an "honest mistake".
Your kid is screwed up and you need to take a long hard look at why.

Heather

 

[laurie31]

This mom was probably only 16 when she got pregnant and so often the best a 16 year old can do is not good enough.

I know there are some GOOD teenaged moms "out there" but I think the majority are just not capable maturity-wise of giving a child what they need. In this case, at any rate, it seems the child would have been a million times better off if she'd made the choice to place him for adoption with a mature responsible loving couple. However, since she chose to keep him, she needs to get off her butt and take better care of him. Yeah, she put knob-protectors on the door, but how did he get in the mental state to even THINK UP doing what he did??? That didn't happen overnight. They both need serious help.

 

[remyandhollandsmommy]

I find the whole drama horrifying and sad. I wish the mom the best of luck and hope she gets the help she needs and not just lectures. Helpful suggestions/advice/ and actions help TONS more than some stranger saying, be a better mom.

I tend to not automatically assume the mom is at fault in a case like this since I DO NOT know her personal situation with dealing with young children alone with a loser father in the picture...in jail no less. Who knows if she is working full time/overtime (could be why she tried to kid proof the doors), is trying to divorce the man (or doesn't have the money to do so when you are basically a single mom...my divorce cost over ten thousand and went on almost three freaking years so I KNOW how hard divorce can be), has ANY kind of family support (lots of young moms don't), knows how the "system" works (more people do NOT realize what help is out there than you think...I know I didn't until someone just happened to mention the help available which I am forever grateful for), you don't know her education level (she could have had to drop out to support her kids). I mean the variables are infinite. It also doesn't mention if there are other kids in the house which is also another obstacle to take into consideration.


I mean I doubt that as a young kid...if she's 21 with a four year old she was still most likely in high school when she got with the father in the first place...went out of her way LOOKING to find a loser to impregnate her just so she could have some crappy life as a single mom stuck with a man in jail that is a horrible influence for her kids. Did she know the kids dad had a rap sheet? How many people do background checks as a teen to screen potential mates for future children you may or may not have?! I know I didn't! She most likely was immature (as ALOT of teens are), thought he was cute/smart/treated her nice/etc and by the time she saw his true colors or realized how dumb she'd acted thought it was too late to rectify the situation and just did the best she could with what she had...especially since by that time a child was in the picture and you tend to just survive for your kids you know? Plus again, who knows her personal situation during that time? How was her homelife as a teen? Did she slip through the school system with no teachers influencing her life? Unless you know ALL the facts and intimate details its a little hard to pass judgement or it should be IMO.


On a side note, I agree with PP who suggested a POSITIVE male influence...big brother organization and mentoring comes to mind. Sorry if I rambled on, hopefully I made sense...I just got off work and am a little tired.

 

[runwad]

And just "how" does a 4 yr old break into a neighbors house at 2 am? Was the door unlocked and he walked in... went in thru an open window? Threw a rock through a window, the kid is 4 this boggles my mind.

 

[abdmom]

I find the whole drama horrifying and sad. I wish the mom the best of luck and hope she gets the help she needs and not just lectures. Helpful suggestions/advice/ and actions help TONS more than some stranger saying, be a better mom.

I tend to not automatically assume the mom is at fault in a case like this since I DO NOT know her personal situation with dealing with young children alone with a loser father in the picture...in jail no less. Who knows if she is working full time/overtime (could be why she tried to kid proof the doors), is trying to divorce the man (or doesn't have the money to do so when you are basically a single mom...my divorce cost over ten thousand and went on almost three freaking years so I KNOW how hard divorce can be), has ANY kind of family support (lots of young moms don't), knows how the "system" works (more people do NOT realize what help is out there than you think...I know I didn't until someone just happened to mention the help available which I am forever grateful for), you don't know her education level (she could have had to drop out to support her kids). I mean the variables are infinite. It also doesn't mention if there are other kids in the house which is also another obstacle to take into consideration.


I mean I doubt that as a young kid...if she's 21 with a four year old she was still most likely in high school when she got with the father in the first place...went out of her way LOOKING to find a loser to impregnate her just so she could have some crappy life as a single mom stuck with a man in jail that is a horrible influence for her kids. Did she know the kids dad had a rap sheet? How many people do background checks as a teen to screen potential mates for future children you may or may not have?! I know I didn't! She most likely was immature (as ALOT of teens are), thought he was cute/smart/treated her nice/etc and by the time she saw his true colors or realized how dumb she'd acted thought it was too late to rectify the situation and just did the best she could with what she had...especially since by that time a child was in the picture and you tend to just survive for your kids you know? Plus again, who knows her personal situation during that time? How was her homelife as a teen? Did she slip through the school system with no teachers influencing her life? Unless you know ALL the facts and intimate details its a little hard to pass judgement or it should be IMO.


On a side note, I agree with PP who suggested a POSITIVE male influence...big brother organization and mentoring comes to mind. Sorry if I rambled on, hopefully I made sense...I just got off work and am a little tired.

Unfortunately, Big Brothers doesn't take boys younger than 7.

And just "how" does a 4 yr old break into a neighbors house at 2 am?

The neighbor's front door was unlocked. The child had found a stash of beer that was stored outside his own house. He was likely drunk when he went to the neighbor's.

 

[Rora]

Wow. For once, I'm speechless...

I know...

WOW.

 

[Bluestars]

The entire story is shocking. I'm surprised the little boy actually drank beer. You would think after one sip he would not like the taste of it. He had to have found an open container, because I don't think a 4 year old could open one.

I hope something happens so this mother gets some help. It looks like she is not able to take care of her son and keep him safe.