Does anyone think that maybe Michael Jackson was murdered?

[mjkacmom]

There sure does seem to be an awful lot of different law enforcement agencies getting involved with the investigation.

I don't know that I think he was murdered as in a planned murder for his estate or something; but I do think his death was the fault of those closest to him. He had an addiction to pain killers, he obviously was using that other drug that put him to sleep, his weight was so low that it was very unhealthy and he was addicted to plastic surgery. His death was the fault of those in his inner circle that could not tell him no and would not help him.

My cousin's wife administered diprivan to him 10 years ago, when she was a hotel doctor out of the country. She said that he was extremely timid, apologetic, and really just a child. They first gave him a strong narcotic, but it didn't even make him drowsy.

 

[Cool-Beans]

Nope. He was a freaky-weird man who tried to become white, slept with children and took a bunch of drugs.

He OD'd and he died and that's that.

 

[luvsJack]

My cousin's wife administered diprivan to him 10 years ago, when she was a hotel doctor out of the country. She said that he was extremely timid, apologetic, and really just a child. They first gave him a strong narcotic, but it didn't even make him drowsy.

Wow! It is so sad that this man had to live depending on drugs to sleep and drugs to wake up and probably drugs to make it through his day.

I just can't get past the thought that his drs. should be held responsible for his death. Just as I believe the plastic surgeon that did that to his face should be questioned deeply about his abilities as a true physician. I mean, how does a true dr. do that to someone's face? At some point you have to say, "no, I will not do that to you." And no amount of money should be able to get a dr. to go against what is morally and ethically right.

Today it was reported that he was down to 112 lbs at his death. He was 6 feet tall! I don't know what his healthy weight should have been but I can guarantee that should have been a heck of a lot more than 112 lbs. The man has been slowly dying for a long time and his physician allowed it to happen.

 

[WDWBarb]

Wow! It is so sad that this man had to live depending on drugs to sleep and drugs to wake up and probably drugs to make it through his day.

I just can't get past the thought that his drs. should be held responsible for his death. Just as I believe the plastic surgeon that did that to his face should be questioned deeply about his abilities as a true physician. I mean, how does a true dr. do that to someone's face? At some point you have to say, "no, I will not do that to you." And no amount of money should be able to get a dr. to go against what is morally and ethically right.

Today it was reported that he was down to 112 lbs at his death. He was 6 feet tall! I don't know what his healthy weight should have been but I can guarantee that should have been a heck of a lot more than 112 lbs. The man has been slowly dying for a long time and his physician allowed it to happen.

I agree - Michael had been dying for a long time. I don't think he was "murdered" but I think that there are many people responsible for his death (yes, including himself).

My DH is a TMZ fanatic and watches it every evening. About 2 weeks ago they had a small clip of MJ in an Escalade and he rolled his window down slightly to wave to the Paps. The TMZ pap was so excited and was carrying on and said, "Michael, can you still moonwalk?" and Michael replied with the most pitiful sounding voice... "Why wouldn't I be able to?"

I looked at DH when he said that and said, "So sad, Michael is dying." DH told me that was ridiculous. But I heard it in his voice - it was just... I don't know how to describe it.

 

[teacups]

112 pounds?

 

[redrosesix]

Wow! It is so sad that this man had to live depending on drugs to sleep and drugs to wake up and probably drugs to make it through his day.

I just can't get past the thought that his drs. should be held responsible for his death. Just as I believe the plastic surgeon that did that to his face should be questioned deeply about his abilities as a true physician. I mean, how does a true dr. do that to someone's face? At some point you have to say, "no, I will not do that to you." And no amount of money should be able to get a dr. to go against what is morally and ethically right.

Today it was reported that he was down to 112 lbs at his death. He was 6 feet tall! I don't know what his healthy weight should have been but I can guarantee that should have been a heck of a lot more than 112 lbs. The man has been slowly dying for a long time and his physician allowed it to happen.

OMG! My DH weighs 112 and he's 5'8 1/2" and he's skinny (think Mick Jagger skinny)

I saw an interview with one of his defense attorney's and he said that when he touched MJ's back it was nothing but bones -- and he was wearing 2 shirts at the time. And that was when he looked better.

 

[luvsJack]

OMG! My DH weighs 112 and he's 5'8 1/2" and he's skinny (think Mick Jagger skinny)

I saw an interview with one of his defense attorney's and he said that when he touched MJ's back it was nothing but bones -- and he was wearing 2 shirts at the time. And that was when he looked better.

My son is very thin and sometimes I worry about him losing weight, but he is still not as underweight as MJ. I just cannot imagine how thin he was. I don't understand why his family was not doing something to help him. Surely if his attorney noticed it, Jermaine or Janet did.

 

[redrosesix]

My son is very thin and sometimes I worry about him losing weight, but he is still not as underweight as MJ. I just cannot imagine how thin he was. I don't understand why his family was not doing something to help him. Surely if his attorney noticed it, Jermaine or Janet did.

I totally agree. They could have dropped him off at Dr. Drew's themselves -- from the way he appeared sometimes, he would have had no idea where he was going.

 

[luvsJack]

I totally agree. They could have dropped him off at Dr. Drew's themselves -- from the way he appeared sometimes, he would have had no idea where he was going.

Exactly. I think there are many people out there who should feel responsible for this man's death.

(not meaning that I think they are all legally responsible)

 

[teacups]

Exactly. I think there are many people out there who should feel responsible for this man's death.

I do too.
And some that should feel responsible for his lfe.
I cant get over his dad Would you EVER tell your child they were UGLY?

 

[redrosesix]

I do too.
And some that should feel responsible for his lfe.
I cant get over his dad Would you EVER tell your child they were UGLY?

Nope, even if I knew the rest of the world would see them that way. Wouldn't that be considered emotional abuse if you did it to a child now?

The weird thing is, he wasn't ugly but he ended up that way. I found the evolution of his face in this link almost horrifying:

http://www.anomalies-unlimited.com/Jackson.html

I'd say he didn't start actually getting ugly until after 1987, which is probably around the time he started to get really addicted.

 

[momrek06]

My cousin's wife administered diprivan to him 10 years ago, when she was a hotel doctor out of the country. She said that he was extremely timid, apologetic, and really just a child. They first gave him a strong narcotic, but it didn't even make him drowsy.

O..M..G, so you are saying that your cousin's wife administered diprivan to MJ 10 YEARS ago.

So he has been taking diprivan THAT long????

Shocking, along with the fact he was 6ft tall and 112 lbs. Why wasn't THAT a red flag to the officials/physicians during his 4 hour physical for the "THIS IS IT" tour?????

That nurse making all the talk shows said she asked MJ how he even knew about diprivan and MJ said his MD told him it was safe and good for sleeping.

That nurse had never heard of it AND I asked my sister who is an RN/BS&MS degrees about diprivan and she had never heard of it...I told her it is for major surgery and she said "Oh, ok, that is why"...Sis works in Case Management w/the elderly and has since grad from college. She is not an operating room nurse.

I am guessing when those autopsy reports come back....we are going to see that MJ was taking and mixing ALLOT of different meds. Such an incredible shame.....

 

[ScottOKW2K]

Was MJ murdered ?

Don't know.....


Don't care.

 

[Belle0101]

I do too.
And some that should feel responsible for his lfe.
I cant get over his dad Would you EVER tell your child they were UGLY?

For certain Michael's abuse was far worse, but growing up my mom had told me on several occassions that she couldn't stand the sight of my face. Other such things too. I've never felt the least bit pretty at all. It does something to a person's insides.

I would never tell that to any child, especially my own flesh and blood. You'd have to be a monster to say such a thing.

 

[redrosesix]

For certain Michael's abuse was far worse, but growing up my mom had told me on several occassions that she couldn't stand the sight of my face. Other such things too. I've never felt the least bit pretty at all. It does something to a person's insides.

I would never tell that to any child, especially my own flesh and blood. You'd have to be a monster to say such a thing.

That's horrible, and you absolutely didn't deserve that.

I can't imagine even seeing my DD as ugly, even if she actually were. I like everything about her, even her crooked smile.

It always amazes me how people can succeed in life despite the choices their parents make. It seems like Joe was a monster. And maybe that's why nobody in MJ's family was willing to stop him from destroying his life (and possibly others). Maybe they just can't do anything that he doesn't agree with.

 

[momrek06]

For certain Michael's abuse was far worse, but growing up my mom had told me on several occassions that she couldn't stand the sight of my face. Other such things too. I've never felt the least bit pretty at all. It does something to a person's insides.

I would never tell that to any child, especially my own flesh and blood. You'd have to be a monster to say such a thing.

Oh, Belle, I was so incredibly sad reading your post. I hope you know that was so wrong of your Mom, just so wrong.

for you, Belle.

 

[ma2jr]

Wow Belle I'm so so sorry to hear this.. I agree you have to know that her comments stem from her own personal issues. Please don't make her issues your demons. She was/is just wrong on so many levels.

 

[The Mystery Machine]

As he was an adult, he was of course ultimately responsible for his own addictions and his own drug use. But, just as in the life/death of Elvis; when someone surrounds themselves with a circle of people they expect to protect them and those people continue to supply them with whatever they are using shouldn't those people also take some responsibility?

He could not have given himself a drip and put the propafol in it. Someone had to have brought him the pain killers (I just don't see MJ walking into RiteAid). Someone had to continue prescribing those pain killers. Those are the people that are responsible for his death.

Ditto.

To add to that I think Lisa Marie married him to help him and she couldn't do it. He was too far gone then.

 

[TomLovesBecky]

Yes, I think he was murdered by a doctor who wasn't mentioned in his will...and therefore had NOTHING to gain and everything to lose...nevermind that MJ was a severe drug addict with a million emotional and psychological problems and a history of prescription abuse...it's much more likely that he was killed in cold blood by a crazed madman!!!

Sorry for the sarcasm, but I just don't understand what our society has come to when we have 24/7 coverage of a tragic death for WEEKS and then people have to start speculating about it being murder when there is just no evidence pointing to that AT ALL.

 

[BeachGirlFLA]

In those pictures, he was actually nice-looking in 1984-1987...he should have stayed like that.