Does anyone LIVE at Disney as a fulltime guest?

[DisneyGerry]

Is Celebration considered Disney Prop?

I wonder if the new part--Flamingo Crossing will have housing?

 

[ObsessedwiththeMouse]

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[toledo13]

My brother is a cast member and actually thought about moving into a value resort. He compared cost of the hotel room (since he would have no electric/heating/cooling bills) to his apartment living. He already lives about 2 minutes from property, so he really wouldn't save THAT much in gas.

I think in the end, it was almost a wash, with the hotel room costing a little bit more. He is one that all he needs is a bed, bathroom and TV, so that part wouldn't bother him at all.

Interesting question!

AHH I WANT TO MOVE IN!!!!

 

[PatriciaH]

Is Celebration considered Disney Prop?

I wonder if the new part--Flamingo Crossing will have housing?

They still own some land (mostly commerical) in Celebration. They sold off the golf course and downtown a few years ago. They definitely still have a hand in development, etc. TCC or The Celebration Company is Disney.

 

[DisneyGerry]

I know there are people (Cm's?) living on a stretch of land within Lake Buena Vista--I dont know if it has permanent structures. I see an airstream on property and cars once in a while???

 

[Goofy_Dad_24]

The Swan and Dolphin have a 31 day limit on their booking website, with no provision to extend.

other properties in the Starwood fleet, using the same site, also won't let you book more than 31 days online but offer a number to call to arrange such a stay.

So I strongly suspect the Swan/Dolphin would NOT be a way to sneak under the radar and become a Reedy Creek citizen.

This is not just a Swan and Dolphin thing, but I think it is a national law. In order to stay in any hotel longer than 31 days you need to physically check out of the hotel, along with all of your belongings, and recheck back in. This alone would make it a major PITA to "reside" in any hotel.

 

[PIRATEGIRL007]

This is not just a Swan and Dolphin thing, but I think it is a national law. In order to stay in any hotel longer than 31 days you need to physically check out of the hotel, along with all of your belongings, and recheck back in. This alone would make it a major PITA to "reside" in any hotel.

I was just talking to my DH about this today after explaining this thread that is definately the law in VA and TN. Unfortunately w/ a house fire in the past I know this law first hand and had a friend w/ same situation in VA (we live in a border city) and they also had to check out ever 30 days and remove all thier stuff.

 

[Dznefreek]

There used to be a rumor about a family who lived in the GF. It was a pretty elaborate rumor and I don't remember it all, something about being a princess from a Middle Eastern country, etc...

They came every so often and rent an entire floor of the resort. They do not take up residence. When I worked at the phone company they were there quite often. It was the princess, her entourage, security, and various assistants. We always got special instructions on the family and how to handle their personal matters.

The same thing happened when Microsoft held their Global Summit at WDW. They had their own security force and command center. We were also given special instructions on what to do if we found any software/hardware items unattended.

 

[KimR]

Now I cannot remember where I read/heard it or the specifics lmao but I heard there is someone living at FW and another living at POFQ or POR... and in both situations have been living at their respective resorts for over a year now.

I remember reading on these boards about a couple that lives in POFQ/POR.

 

[justskip70003]

so i have always said if i won the lottery i would live in the contemporary or bay lake towers facing MK so i could watch the fireworks every night without having to deal with the peasants. i don't care about said rules or regulations in weekly hotel agreements. i would have my lawyer contact Disney and tell them i have a blank check filled out to them.

but if you think of it realistically who would want to live at Disney year around and have to worry about dealing with all the dopey tourists year around. that would get so annoying. so rethinking i would maybe visit "my hotel" 4 times a year for 2 weeks or so. but i would be at times of the year that are not busy. too much of the same thing gets old after a while.

i do have annual passes and i love it, but i do find myself planning my visits when its not busy. i only live an hour away and i just cant deal with the crowds anymore. people are just way too rude anymore.

 

[Kumquatmelon]

Cast Members in the Disney College Program live on site in their own personal apartments, that's as close as living in Disney as I'll ever get.

 

[Tara922c]

Cast Members in the Disney College Program live on site in their own personal apartments, that's as close as living in Disney as I'll ever get.

Actually the CP apartments are not on Disney property, but they are across the street from Disney property, with busses always going on property. It is almost like living on Disney property!! A few years ago, CPs from Brazil were housed at the Tree House Villas, so they did get to live on property.

 

[ms mouse]

I just read through this thread and was about to reply I had heard the Four Seasons will have some sort of homes available for sale there. I am secretly playing the lottery, hoping I win the down payment for one!

Does anyone know what is happening with this Four Seasons?

 

[DisneyGerry]

LUXURY DESTINATION RESORT - NORTHEAST RESORT AREA
Along the northeast border of Walt Disney World Resort, Disney plans to convert its Eagle Pines and Osprey Ridge golf courses into a luxury resort and golf community. The development will include a luxury hotel, 18-hole championship golf course, single- and multi-family vacation homes and fractional ownership vacation homes.

Disney entered into a letter of intent with Four Seasons Hotels and Resorts to bring these two complementary and respected brands together to anchor a new world-class family resort destination.

Four Seasons is dedicated to perfecting the travel experience through continuous innovation and the highest standards of hospitality. Currently with 74 hotels in 31 countries, and more than 25 properties under development, Four Seasons continues to lead the hospitality industry with innovative enhancements, making business travel easier and leisure travel more rewarding. The deeply instilled Four Seasons culture is personified in its employees - people who share a single focus and are inspired to offer great service. Four Seasons currently operates two properties in Florida, Four Seasons Hotel Miami and the Four Seasons Resort Palm Beach.

"The Resort will have all the ingredients needed to create memorable vacations: gracious and caring staff; beautiful surroundings that are thoughtfully designed; and services and amenities that make every experience one to cherish," said Kathleen Taylor, president and chief operating officer, Four Seasons Hotels and Resorts. "It's an honor to collaborate with Walt Disney World Resort on this project. Walt Disney's reputation for service excellence and exceptional family entertainment amenities is an ideal complement to the values of Four Seasons. Central Florida will be a valuable addition to our family of resorts, particularly since this is a destination our guests already enjoy."

Once terms of the project are finalized, site work could begin later this year, with a hotel opening forecasted for 2010.

 

[Bounce_Tigger]

Actually the CP apartments are not on Disney property, but they are across the street from Disney property, with busses always going on property. It is almost like living on Disney property!! A few years ago, CPs from Brazil were housed at the Tree House Villas, so they did get to live on property.

And neither the apartments nor the land, nor the transportation is owned or operated by Disney, but rather licensed to them from an outside company. And they are not very magical

 

[gingerbread4life]

I was just talking to my DH about this today after explaining this thread that is definately the law in VA and TN. Unfortunately w/ a house fire in the past I know this law first hand and had a friend w/ same situation in VA (we live in a border city) and they also had to check out ever 30 days and remove all thier stuff.

My husband works for a hotel company and they offer long-term stays all the time in different states of 30+ nights, so I think the law is going to vary by state. One interesting thing is that in several states the state sales tax is no longer applicable after 30 straight nights in the hotel as long as the guest doesn't check-out of the room and leave property, as the hotel room they does qualify as a rental agreement vs. typical hotel stay (as the state tax office looks at it)

 

[jayandstacey]

so i have always said if i won the lottery i would live in the contemporary or bay lake towers facing MK so i could watch the fireworks every night without having to deal with the peasants. i don't care about said rules or regulations in weekly hotel agreements. i would have my lawyer contact Disney and tell them i have a blank check filled out to them.

And that's why I started this thread - to address that question. Not so much if people simply live on property, though that is a very interesting question otherwise.

There are people for which a hotel rack rate, even over the course of the year, just isn't a monetary problem - so WHAT keeps them from staying?

As I mentioned, there are plenty of examples of people living on cruiseships, in fact there's even a cruiseship (planned?) that is a residence ship and simply spends its time sailing the world slowly.

But through this thread we've pointed out that all the lawyers and blank checks probably still won't let it happen. US citizens need to reside somewhere - (I'd bet dollars to doughnuts its technically illegal to homeless, as the IRS can't find you...) and if you move into a hotel you just became a resident of WDW, specifically Reedy Creek. And the way Disney has that set up, they would NEVER risk, even slightly, the control they have in exchange for your dollars. The risk is incalculaby high, thus I suspect you'd have to actually buy ALL of the Disney company to have a shot of living on property. Even then, you still may not be able to do it

But the thought has crossed my mind too.

 

[BradyBz12]

there's even a cruiseship (planned?) that is a residence ship and simply spends its time sailing the world slowly.

www.residensea.com

But through this thread we've pointed out that all the lawyers and blank checks probably still won't let it happen.

Nope. I think the best anyone can hope is to have a "residence" somewhere, and spend as much time at WDW as they can afford.

In a way it's similar to folks that are full-time RVers. They still face legal/residency issues and many have a "home base" somewhere, even if they spend little or no time there.

It is nice to dream of the possibilities though...

 

[jayandstacey]

My husband works for a hotel company and they offer long-term stays all the time in different states of 30+ nights, so I think the law is going to vary by state. One interesting thing is that in several states the state sales tax is no longer applicable after 30 straight nights in the hotel as long as the guest doesn't check-out of the room and leave property, as the hotel room they does qualify as a rental agreement vs. typical hotel stay (as the state tax office looks at it)

I bet it varies not just by state but by Hotel chain and location. Put another way, I'd imagine that you could find two hotels, right next to each other, with different answers to the same question.

The local demand and hotel's want to meet that demand will cause their response. Note that probably EVERY other hotel (except maybe hotels on private islands) doesn't have the citizen issues WDW has.

Consider the Waldorf Astoria in NY and the Watergate in DC. They have residents. Granted, they probably have converted the units to condos, but there's certainly local demand AND the hotel's commitment to meeting the unique needs of permanent residents.

But I gotta believe there were early guests who simply stayed longer than expected, or stayed often and simply decided to commit. And so did the hotel. Disney HAS to have been asked this as some point - they've obviously said no.

 

[DonaldTDuck]

I checked in on line a few days ago and in the agreement was a clause about not planning to make the resort a domicile, or permanent residence. Didn't think much about it at the time.