Does anyone know if the person seeing your scan can see you getting scanned??

[Nancy F]

I don't think I'd mind as much if the person who is looking at my scan wasn't where I could see them and where they could see me standing in the scanner. Does that make sense? LOL. I would feel funny watching a stranger looking at my overweight middle age naked body. Bad enough my doctor has to.

 

[DebbieB]

I don't think I'd mind as much if the person who is looking at my scan wasn't where I could see them and where they could see me standing in the scanner. Does that make sense? LOL. I would feel funny watching a stranger looking at my overweight middle age naked body. Bad enough my doctor has to.

I believe they are in a control room. When I went through it, they radioed back that it was OK. I didn't see anyone around.

 

[bumbershoot]

They are not supposed to be able to see you. that's what they say.

They also say that the machines are incapable of capturing an image, but that's been shown to be untrue (even just by the images provided for articles about it!). So....

 

[chartle]

They are not supposed to be able to see you. that's what they say.

They also say that the machines are incapable of capturing an image, but that's been shown to be untrue (even just by the images provided for articles about it!). So....

Those are TEST images. The computers attached to machines could save an image. They have just added safeguards to make as sure as possible that it shouldn't happen.

And to OP the viewing room is in a different part of the airport.

 

[goofy4tink]

Okay...here's a question for the naysayers out there...to what purpose do you think anyone would want to capture and retain those images??? They don't have faces on them, so what's the point?

 

[daydream32]

Still not sure how I feel about it. I know safety is important, but how close are the odds to just an airplane issue like what was happening to Quantas. I keep going back and forth on this.

Anyway, as to the question on the images. The US Marshals ended saving the images and provided them during a freedom of information request. I know it is not the same agency or type of scanner, but it would be kind of creepy to think that an image of me like that was out on the Internet. I would rather not have people out there comparing scans of me to someone else for no medical reason and I would think that for some people some abnormaitlies might come close to identifying or thinking it was them ( just my thought here I have not seen that stated anywhere).

http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/breaking/Leaked_U_S__Marshal_body_scan_images_revealed-108480874.html

 

[DebbieB]

Okay...here's a question for the naysayers out there...to what purpose do you think anyone would want to capture and retain those images??? They don't have faces on them, so what's the point?

I think if they did have someone who turned out to be a criminal they would want to look back on it. They had security footage of the 9/11 terrorists going through security that day.

 

[deegack]

Okay...here's a question for the naysayers out there...to what purpose do you think anyone would want to capture and retain those images??? They don't have faces on them, so what's the point?

Let's think of this situation -

Someone does manage to get something on board and the powers that be want to see what his or her scan looked like. They know what plane he or she was on, so they can narrow down the scanner he went though. They know his general characteristics (height, weight etc) so they can fill through the pictures to pick out which one was him (or at least narrow it to a few). They can see if 1) their "great" technology missed something or 2) the person clearing him missed something (and then use that image in the subsequent trial).

Not that the scans will show anything important because the next bomber will probably put something in a body cavity and this technology can't show body cavities. Anyone want to guess what the next security measure will be??? You know like experts have been saying for years that the mail (UPS/Fedex etc) is vulnerable and a few weeks ago bombs started showing up that way.

I fully expect in a year or so, the TSA to issue a press release on a Friday afternoon that they will start retaining the scanned pictures. The Federal Marshalls have already done so in the Orlando courthouse, so it obviously can be done fairly easily.

 

[goofy4tink]

And those responses make perfect sense to me. I just don't think that various nefarious TSA employees are going to be downloading these images and selling them on the black market..or anyplace else for that matter.

I am hoping that the cumulative amounts of radiation turns out to be a non-issue...I think it will. That is my one and only concern..but I will be going through that scanner if I am requested to.

 

[uncle duck]

the only way to fly with out going thru security is to rent a private plane. but here in the pacific nortwest they have been dropping like flies.
i was watching the news when they interviewed the head muckymuck in charge of tsa. he said quote [ i don't want my family or myself to go thru these intrusive pat downs but i will not change them]

 

[robinb]

And those responses make perfect sense to me. I just don't think that various nefarious TSA employees are going to be downloading these images and selling them on the black market..or anyplace else for that matter.

You don't think that an image of a hot movie star wouldn't be worth something? Angelina Jolie? Do you remember what happened with Erin Andrews through the peephole?

In addition, the porn industry is amazing. People will pay for images of slim women with big breasts, images of children, images of big "teddy bear" men ... really no one, no matter how old or fit, is safe from having a naked (fuzzy or no) image of them being used for the sexual gratification of someone else.

ETA: I wouldn't be surprised if images are actually kept for all the reasons that deegack listed.

 

[CPT Tripss]

And those responses make perfect sense to me. I just don't think that various nefarious TSA employees are going to be downloading these images and selling them on the black market..or anyplace else for that matter.

I am hoping that the cumulative amounts of radiation turns out to be a non-issue...I think it will. That is my one and only concern..but I will be going through that scanner if I am requested to.

Face reality. There is/will be big bucks available for scans of prominent people. TSAers who steal laptops and video cams will also steal pics.

ETA: I would prefer to be able to observe the TSAer looking at my scan - then I'd know wheter her'his demeanor was appropriate. It would be easy to configure the checkpoint so that the screener could be observed without "outsider" seeing the actual screen image.

 

[robinb]

Back to the OP ... the images are viewed at another location in the airport. I know one airport I went through this year had that location to the side of the security area in a box the size of a small office. One thing to consider: Just because the viewing area is off to the side and they blur out your face on the "naked" image that doesn't mean there isn't an additional video feed into the room that shows you with your clothes on.

 

[safetymom]

http://gizmodo.com/5690749/these-are-the-first-100-leaked-body-scans

I have no doubt that there will be some that will attempt to save the images.

 

[ccudmore]

I heard it suggested that, for those who don't like being scanned, they have special flights for them where no one on board goes through any security. Let's see how safe they feel then. (And yes the person who suggested it was joking)

 

[CPT Tripss]

Okay...here's a question for the naysayers out there...to what purpose do you think anyone would want to capture and retain those images??? They don't have faces on them, so what's the point?

If one of us were to post a picture here of a naked person without a head/face would the mods let it stay? I mean heck, what's the point?

 

[CPT Tripss]

I heard it suggested that, for those who don't like being scanned, they have special flights for them where no one on board goes through any security. Let's see how safe they feel then. (And yes the person who suggested it was joking)

As one of the congress critters stated yesterday in the hearing - there is a balancing act between security and privacy. It isn't all or nothing as you propose.

 

[disneyfan55]

They are not supposed to be able to see you. that's what they say.

They also say that the machines are incapable of capturing an image, but that's been shown to be untrue (even just by the images provided for articles about it!). So....

Exactly. The pictures were both on the Drudge report as well as Glenn Beck (but blurred our because too graphic)

 

[Nancy F]

And those responses make perfect sense to me. I just don't think that various nefarious TSA employees are going to be downloading these images and selling them on the black market..or anyplace else for that matter.

I am hoping that the cumulative amounts of radiation turns out to be a non-issue...I think it will. That is my one and only concern..but I will be going through that scanner if I am requested to.

But how much would someone pay to see a celeb??? And I wonder... would Nancy Pelosi have to go through the scan??? Or are those that are making the rules for us exempt?? And why scan the pilots when all they would have to do to bring down a plane is crash it???

 

[sam_gordon]

And why scan the pilots when all they would have to do to bring down a plane is crash it???

How difficult is it to get a pilot's uniform?