Does anyone know if the person seeing your scan can see you getting scanned??

[sam_gordon]

I assume that they all need to show some ID. I was pointing out how silly the previous question was.

I'm sorry I took up your time with my "silly" question. I don't fly much and I've never seen flight crews (or anyone obviously not a "passenger") go through security. So I thought I'd ask the question.

 

[goofy4tink]

I thought our checked luggage did go through some kind of screening. Or is that only at random?

I would imagine most of it does. I can't say for sure if it's 100% though. I do know that the checked bag I had my peanut butter jar in was never searched. Yes, I left things 'just so'. that way I could tell if it had been gone through. Nothing was changed at all when I opened that bag.
I'm more concerned about the commercial cargo that's on a plane. And yes, there is commercial cargo on many passenger flights. And that scares me.

 

[CPT Tripss]

I still believe that cargo is our weak point, not me or my kids. Until they start scanning every single piece of cargo I won't be happy. So, they get to pat all of us down, if they choose, but they don't screen all that cargo, especially the cargo that is sitting beneath me on my plane??? That's just wrong.

I thought our checked luggage did go through some kind of screening. Or is that only at random?

More than "our luggage" goes into the baggage hold of most passenger flights . . . mail, air freight etc. Arguably that's what the toner bombers were hoping would happen to their recent bombs.

All "our luggage" gets screened at the airport by TSA. Not the case with the mail/freight. My understanding is that TSA has created "trusted shippers" that are allowed to deliver freeight/main to the airport for shipment that bypasses the TSa at the airport. These shippers are certified by TSA to do their own screening.

That troubles me, and also apparently "goofy." Makes me wonder how many "DeCoster egg factories" are out there as "trusted shippers."

 

[robinb]

I'm sorry I took up your time with my "silly" question. I don't fly much and I've never seen flight crews (or anyone obviously not a "passenger") go through security. So I thought I'd ask the question.

Well, they do. They often have their own "lane" at busier airports so they don't have to wait with the rest of us.

 

[CPT Tripss]

Nope, but there's a huge difference between a regular old fashioned photo of naked Demi Lovato than a security back scatter photo. I have removed some security photos that were posted...as well as nude shots of celebraties.

Well, bless your heart . . . some security screen shots are too graphic for the Dis.

 

[sam_gordon]

Well, bless your heart . . . some security screen shots are too graphic for the Dis.

I meant to comment on that... I disagree that they are "too graphic". In fact, the fact (in my mind) that they are NOT "too graphic" is why I don't have a problem with them.

 

[CPT Tripss]

Well, they do. They often have their own "lane" at busier airports so they don't have to wait with the rest of us.

That's flight crews, right? What about TSAers passing into the secure area from outside it?

 

[goofy4tink]

Well, bless your heart . . . some security screen shots are too graphic for the Dis.

It was just one shot...and it differed greatly from the vast majority of other screening shots we've seen. when it takes absolutely no imagination to see what is 'there' on the male body, then it doesn't get to stay on this board. But, as I've said, that was a very different shot than any other I've seen here.

 

[pilotwife_02]

every time they leave the secure area. i.e. for lunch and breaks. they have to be resceened

The TSA does not have to go through security. Also, the TSA is allowed to do random unannounced checks (security sweeps) of airplanes. So unscreened people are being allowed on a plane.

Yeah, that's right, you don't trust a pilot who has FBI background checks who fly the dang plane and don't need a weapon to go in to a secured area of the airport, but let's allow a random TSA person on the plane. Make sense to you?

 

[pilotwife_02]

I don't know. I was asking the question to find the answer.

Anyone who knows someone who works at an airport (pilot, FA, fast food worker, TSA, bookstore, etc)... how do they go through security?

Pilots and FA's go through security like any other passenger. Some airports have employee lines so they don't have to wait in the regular line in case it's REALLY long. Some have a line that just allows them to bypass the regular line (cut to front of the line), but they will still go through the same detectors as everyone else.

The fast food/store workers to through security like everyone else as well.

Again the TSA doesn't go through security.

 

[CPT Tripss]

Pilots and FA's go through security like any other passenger. Some airports have employee lines so they don't have to wait in the regular line in case it's REALLY long. Some have a line that just allows them to bypass the regular line (cut to front of the line), but they will still go through the same detectors as everyone else.

The fast food/store workers to through security like everyone else as well.

Again the TSA doesn't go through security.

My understanding is that the flight crews and airport concession employees get cut a break in not having to remove their shoes.

What is the rational for not screening TSAers? I guess that's a rhetorical question . . . The real answer is probably secret.

 

[uncle duck]

good evening everyone

I see some people have posted that tsa does't go thruogh screening. so please let me clear things up.

1. i'm not ashamed nor embarassed to say {I} sleep with the enemy. my wife and brother in law are tsa at out local airport

2. our local tsa managers require that tsa sceeners will be sceened and resceened every time they leave their post to go into the unsecure area. and they go back and forth thru the machaines all shift long

our port does not have the new machines and won't for about a year
and YES i think the head muckymuck has gone to far

 

[pilotwife_02]

My understanding is that the flight crews and airport concession employees get cut a break in not having to remove their shoes.

What is the rational for not screening TSAers? I guess that's a rhetorical question . . . The real answer is probably secret.

Right - DH tells me he doesn't have to take his shoes off.

Uncle Duck - I wonder if it's a regional thing. I have seen TSA agents myself not go through security, just walk around the x-ray machines and/or walk in through the exit area of the gates. Again, to me the problem is there is no standard that happens at each airport. One airport does things one way, another does it a different way.

 

[uncle duck]

Hi Pilotwife
ya i know, all this is confusing. thats why i changed to our area airport. she tells me its federal guide lines and managers decide how to make it work. so yes each one is differant. she doesn't know if they will have to keep going thru the new machines when they get them.
she changed to wearing a sports bra to quit setting of the metal detector and getting pat down 4-5 times a shift
just asked her about flight crew,vender employees and shoes. in uniform and reporting fore/onduty don't have to unless they ring the bell
as far as the ops question, it looks like this port is putting the person reading the scans on a differant floor.

 

[CPT Tripss]

good evening everyone

I see some people have posted that tsa does't go thruogh screening. so please let me clear things up.

1. i'm not ashamed nor embarassed to say {I} sleep with the enemy. my wife and brother in law are tsa at out local airport

2. our local tsa managers require that tsa sceeners will be sceened and resceened every time they leave their post to go into the unsecure area. and they go back and forth thru the machaines all shift long

our port does not have the new machines and won't for about a year
and YES i think the head muckymuck has gone to far

Fess up - airport?

 

[canopynut66]

I don't think I'd mind as much if the person who is looking at my scan wasn't where I could see them and where they could see me standing in the scanner. Does that make sense? LOL. I would feel funny watching a stranger looking at my overweight middle age naked body. Bad enough my doctor has to.

To leave Orlando in November had to do a body scan and was 'told" to face the wall for some reason with arms up. So I figure it does take the face also. If they would have to go back thru all scans say something happened how would they know who it was? without the face? so I just assumed face was also scanned for that reason. You do it or not fly they saying today

 

[kaytieeldr]

I would imagine most of it does. I can't say for sure if it's 100% though. I do know that the checked bag I had my peanut butter jar in was never searched. Yes, I left things 'just so'. that way I could tell if it had been gone through. Nothing was changed at all when I opened that bag.
I'm more concerned about the commercial cargo that's on a plane. And yes, there is commercial cargo on many passenger flights. And that scares me.

If that was at Logan in the last two years or so, we were the first airport to have all our checked luggage xrayed after it's out of our sight and before it goes on the plane. Not necessarily the same as cargo, though.

 

[kaytieeldr]

Fess up - airport?

Frankly, I think "Pacific Northwest" is sufficient. We yell and yell about safety and securiy - both general and personal. I think knowing that a specific person's family member works at a type of facility (airport, in this case) in a small part of the country is MORE than enough information about that person/DISer and his family. There's no need for any of us to know the actual airport.

 

[kaytieeldr]

To leave Orlando in November had to do a body scan and was 'told" to face the wall for some reason with arms up. So I figure it does take the face also. If they would have to go back thru all scans say something happened how would they know who it was? without the face? so I just assumed face was also scanned for that reason. You do it or not fly they saying today

More likely, that was so images of both sides of you could be viewed. Not having been through this scanner yet, I'm not sure of the process - but it wouldn't be unreasonable that a back and a front image would need to be viewed.

 

[CPT Tripss]

Frankly, I think "Pacific Northwest" is sufficient. We yell and yell about safety and securiy - both general and personal. I think knowing that a specific person's family member works at a type of facility (airport, in this case) in a small part of the country is MORE than enough information about that person/DISer and his family. There's no need for any of us to know the actual airport.

Oh please, I'll ask whatever questions I choose. Other posters, to whom the question is addressed can decide on their own whether to reply. The guy is claiming stuff that just doesn't make sense.