Does anyone honest to goodness tithe?

[Amity 3]

Cool-Beans, you sound like Thomas.

John 20

24Now Thomas (called Didymus), one of the Twelve, was not with the disciples when Jesus came. 25So the other disciples told him, "We have seen the Lord!"
But he said to them, "Unless I see the nail marks in his hands and put my finger where the nails were, and put my hand into his side, I will not believe it." 26A week later his disciples were in the house again, and Thomas was with them. Though the doors were locked, Jesus came and stood among them and said, "Peace be with you!" 27Then he said to Thomas, "Put your finger here; see my hands. Reach out your hand and put it into my side. Stop doubting and believe."

28Thomas said to him, "My Lord and my God!"

blah, blah, blah. give me 1/10 of your income. don't use it for your family, send it to your church.

 

[Cool-Beans]

if there is a God he certainly wouldn't be short of cash, he'd make his own. it's a flippin' church angle and another bullcrap reason why I hate organized religion. non-profit, non-taxable dollars to promote their beliefs.

and then they molest kids on top of it, and get away with it.

No, like I said, I don't think God needs money.

It isn't that I don't think the church (the One True Church, of course

) does good things with the dough. They do. They feed the hungry, care for the sick, visit the imprisioned, etc. Good stuff. I just don't like this new way my church is going about collecting it. This new guy really does sound like a con man up there and it totally rubs me the wrong way...which I said before on these boards.

I'm not even going to address the issue of child molestation and the church. Wait, yes, I am. The overwhelming, vast majority of priests are very good men who do NOT molest children. I'm ashamed for the church that the way it handles problems (all problems, really) is that it transfers them to a new parish. But to label all priests as child molestors is hateful...and (surprise!) wrong.

 

[Amity 3]

(with so many different denominations submitting, isn't THAT evidence of God?

no, evidence of God will happen when there's actual evidence, not faith.

 

[donaldsgal]

But to label all priests as child molestors is hateful...and (surprise!) wrong.

Nicely said.

Amity, I was attempting to make a joke, but I get the feeling you are looking for a fight. I'd rather not argue, so I'll just let you quote me as you like and say good night.

 

[Cool-Beans]

Cool-Beans, you sound like Thomas.

It isn't that I doubt God's existance. I just doubt (very much) that He needs money...or that any church has somehow transferred funds to heaven. The money doesn't go to God, nor does it end up in his account. It goes to the church and from there (we trust) to those who need it.

 

[jimmiej]

It isn't that I doubt God's existance. I just doubt (very much) that He needs money...or that any church has somehow transferred funds to heaven. The money doesn't go to God, nor does it end up in his account. It goes to the church and from there (we trust) to those who need it.

I know you don't doubt His existence. Your comment about putting your $ directly in God's hand made me think of Thomas' words.

Let me ask you this. Do you believe Scripture indicates we should give of our money?

 

[WDWHound]

so how do you explain people like us - never been affiliated with any church, never given a cent, and we're doing well financially?

Thats simple, God never said you had to give to be successful, only that he would bless those who do give (and not necessarily financially). My experince with Tithing is that I have less money than I had before at the end of the year, but I still always have enough.

And thats the only statement of yours I plan to address. I can respect the fact that you don't beleive in God (most of my firends don't beleive either), but the lack of respect with which you address beleivers who are simply trying to explain their point of view make discussions with you not worth the trouble. At tempting as it is to respond to such well thought out and respectful comments comments as "Blah Blah Blah", I will refrain from doing so.

 

[cardaway]

Isn't it fun when people imply others are not welcome on a thread.

And here I thought that was limited to the clique threads.

 

[Amity 3]

No, like I said, I don't think God needs money.

It isn't that I don't think the church (the One True Church, of course

) does good things with the dough. They do. They feed the hungry, care for the sick, visit the imprisioned, etc. Good stuff. I just don't like this new way my church is going about collecting it. This new guy really does sound like a con man up there and it totally rubs me the wrong way...which I said before on these boards.

I'm not even going to address the issue of child molestation and the church. Wait, yes, I am. The overwhelming, vast majority of priests are very good men who do NOT molest children. I'm ashamed for the church that the way it handles problems (all problems, really) is that it transfers them to a new parish. But to label all priests as child molestors is hateful...and (surprise!) wrong.

so why would anyone be ashamed of their church but still contribute?

let's say my wife and I are making $000,000 jointly without the help of the Lord. why donate?

 

[Cool-Beans]

no, evidence of God will happen when there's actual evidence, not faith.

Evidence of God is all around you...you just attribute it to other things. One day you will see the light and appreciate it all - I have faith in that, too.

Amity, I always wanted to ask you this...since you aren't sure about God...I mean you think there is a good chance He doesn't exist...So, why do you think you exist? (Not asking what you think the meaning of life is, just why you exist, other than to plague me, of course.)

 

[Amity 3]

Let me ask you this. Do you believe Scripture indicates we should give of our money?

I believe if the Bible was a book in Barnes and Noble and it weren't pushed in your head from an early age you'd laugh it off if you stumbled across it.

 

[aquinas]

Isn't it fun when people imply others are not welcome on a thread.

And here I thought that was limited to the clique threads.

about as fun as people seeing implications that arent really there.

 

[WDWHound]

Isn't it fun when people imply others are not welcome on a thread.

And here I thought that was limited to the clique threads.

My response was aimed at one who choses to insult rather than respectfully discuss. Anyone can post on a thread and mock people who's views they don't understand, but I have found it unproductive to talk to such people as they are rarely interested in listening. There is a big difference between saying "I don't beleive in God or Tithing" and responding to posts with taunts and childish insults.

 

[Amity 3]

Evidence of God is all around you...you just attribute it to other things. One day you will see the light and appreciate it all - I have faith in that, too.

Amity, I always wanted to ask you this...since you aren't sure about God...I mean you think there is a good chance He doesn't exist...So, why do you think you exist? (Not asking what you think the meaning of life is, just why you exist, other than to plague me, of course.)

the same reason you have a tail bone but disregard evolution.

 

[cardaway]

My response was aimed at one who choses to insult rather than respectfully discuss. Anyone can post on a thread and mock people who's views they don't understand, but I have found it unproductive to talk to such people someone as they are rarely interested in listening. There is a big difference between saying "I don't beleive in God or Tithing" and responding to posts with taunts and childish insults.

I posted that almost exactly as the same time. Not at all in reponse to your post.

 

[WDWHound]

I posted that almost exactly as the same time. Not at all in reponse to your post.

Ah, sorry about that. I should have known that you wouldn't jump to conclusions like that (even though I apparently did LOL).

 

[lori1043]

well, some people seem to be misguided on this earth. Jesus is everything to me, I need Him in my life, He makes sense of the times that are senseless. I am always surprised by parent athiests-HOW can you look at your kids and think nothing else but GOD gave them to you. I am not arguing, just speculating. Even if you try to tell me an answer, i will not understand it.

My DD9 had leukemia when she was younger and the FIRST night on chemo, a mom came and told me she did not beleive in God, did not pray... It kind of freaked me out since I could get through the mess without the Lord by my side.

For the misguided- The money is not for God directly, you are so right in saying it cannot go to heaven, so WHY do it. The money we give our church is to allow people to SEE God on this earth. Whether it be in inspirational sermons, mission trips to help others, giving less fortunate families a special Christmas, Sunday school for our children, etc. I have been on the recieving end of those Christmas gifts before and when you don't know what is going to happen tomorrow in your life, child's life, etc, to me, those gifts are straight from God, heaven sent- and you touch people enough to , wow, well cry, then when they are in a better place, pass it on. That is where we are.

Good luck and blessings on your journey through life.

 

[cardaway]

Misguided?

So much for this thread being repsectful.

 

[Cool-Beans]

I know you don't doubt His existence. Your comment about putting your $ directly in God's hand made me think of Thomas' words.

Let me ask you this. Do you believe Scripture indicates we should give of our money?

You're cheating. You know I don't read it. If you all say that the bible says 10%, I believe you.

I am pretty sure our church says 9%. It used to, so unless they changed it, that's where we stand. I don't give 9%.

I'll be honest. I could afford to give more than I do. I give what I give. It absolutely kills my husband that the church gets any of the money he works to earn. He's OK with God, but he has issues with the church.

Come to think of it, based on MY income alone (money I make from working for others), I probably do give 10% to charity. I probably meet the biblical guidelines. Surely the church wouldn't want me stealing from my husband...or disobeying him lmao: ) to provide them with a tithe against his will! So I'm good to go!

If only the IRS would set up such a simple system as everyone has to give 10% of their income. Another thread, I know.

 

[aquinas]

Not that it turned from being respectful when priests were called child molesters....naw couldnt be