Does 8 ounces still= 1 cup?

Temperature conversion isn't that hard.

C -> F = (C * 9/5) + 32
F -> C = (F - 32) * 5/9

But as I said before, and someone else ha said, Celsius is much harder to relate to.

How is it hard to relate to? To be honest I don't even know Farenheit. I only know Celcius.
 
How is it hard to relate to? To be honest I don't even know Farenheit. I only know Celcius.
I don't get that comment either. Though, of course, everyone finds what they are used to easier to relate to.

I do get that Celsius can be less precise (if you stick to whole numbers), but I, personally, don't need more precision in my day-to-day life (i.e. 78F versus 77F isn't going to change what I wear) and in my work life (lab work) we use decimals.
 
I don't get that comment either. Though, of course, everyone finds what they are used to easier to relate to.

That's exactly it - people relate to what they are used to.

In linear measurements, nobody complains that an inch is less precise than a cm. Even when the default solution (for most of our measuring devices) is to use fractions rather than decimal points. It's much easier to adjust to adding a 0.2 to a degree measurement than a 1/32 or 1/16 to a linear measurement. Plus with metric you have the option of changing 24.2 cm to 242 mm - without a calculator.

Another bright side to a switch to metric is that the minimum speed on the interstate would jump from 40 to 64. ;)
 

How is it hard to relate to? To be honest I don't even know Farenheit. I only know Celcius.

0C is cold, 35C is hot? How hot, physically? How about 12C? Hold hold or hot is that? 17C? Compare 35C to 95F. 95 sounds hot. 95 is close to 100. Therefore, that's hot. In C, 100 is water boiling. That's a crazy difference.

There's more wiggle room, for example between 30C and 35C than 90F and 95F.
 
0C is cold, 35C is hot? How hot, physically? How about 12C? Hold hold or hot is that? 17C? Compare 35C to 95F. 95 sounds hot. 95 is close to 100. Therefore, that's hot. In C, 100 is water boiling. That's a crazy difference.

There's more wiggle room, for example between 30C and 35C than 90F and 95F.

To you. Because you are used to thinking in F. To me, that sounds boiling (because 100C is the boiling temperature of water) and not like a "weather" heat. 35C and 12C are, to me, totally relatable temperatures. 35C is hot and sticky and too hot to exercise in. 12C need a jacket but not a heavy sweater or coat. I'd have no idea what to do/wear at 75F or 10F without converting back to C.
 
0C is cold, 35C is hot? How hot, physically? How about 12C? Hold hold or hot is that? 17C? Compare 35C to 95F. 95 sounds hot. 95 is close to 100. Therefore, that's hot. In C, 100 is water boiling. That's a crazy difference.

There's more wiggle room, for example between 30C and 35C than 90F and 95F.

That doesn't mean it's any harder to relate to than F.

I'm sure people who are used to C hear 32 degrees and think wow that's hot and are confused when they learn that it's the temperature water freezes at.

If we used C on a regular basis 32 would sound hot to us too.

It's all in what you're used to.
 
That doesn't mean it's any harder to relate to than F.

I'm sure people who are used to C hear 32 degrees and think wow that's hot and are confused when they learn that it's the temperature water freezes at.

If we used C on a regular basis 32 would sound hot to us too.

It's all in what you're used to.

Ehhhhh, I see your point. But don't you think there isn't enough precision in the Celsius? Do countries in metric display temperature with decimals? Like, is the difference between 0C and 40C big enough in the metric world?

See: http://thevane.gawker.com/fahrenheit-is-a-better-temperature-scale-than-celsius-1691707793

Or: https://milebehind.wordpress.com/2013/08/04/if-you-cant-understand-the-heat-its-probably-celsius/
 
Alton Brown goes by weight in his recipes.

And metric.


Maybe he does in private life, but if he wants to sell cookbooks in the US, he'll use the cockamamie imperial system. I haven't seen one of his shows for several years, so I don't know what system he uses on TV.

Partner has two Alton Brown books:
1. Gear For Your Kitchen. Mostly about pots and pans, knives, small appliances, utensils, etc., but there are some scattered recipes throughout.
2. Good Eats. Recipes and food science info from his show.

There's not a hint of the metric system in either book. Some ingredients are by weight (i.e. 12 oz. of chocolate chips for cookies) but the vast majority of measurements are in cups, tablespoons, fluid ounces, etc.
 
I'd really like to know when the US will join the rest of the world and go metric. According to our friend Google, the only countries still clinging to the old Imperial system are Liberia, Myanmar, and the USA. Maybe then I can finally ditch my old measuring spoons and cups.

The US is going to be fully metric by 1980.

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Wine and liquor have been exclusively sold in metric quantities in the US for about 35 years now. Anyone associated with the production of them is familiar with the metric measurements, as are wholesalers and retailers. There is absolutely no need for consumers to know or care how many fluid ounces are in a 750ml bottle of Bombay gin. If someone is unable to visualize a 750ml bottle of chardonnay and needs a Chilean wine expert to provide a conversion chart, they have much more serious problems and shouldn't be drinking alcoholic beverages.
 
The US is going to be fully metric by 1980.

Sure.

... and I'm still waiting for those jetpacks we were all supposed to have by now.

Wine and liquor have been exclusively sold in metric quantities in the US for about 35 years now. Anyone associated with the production of them is familiar with the metric measurements, as are wholesalers and retailers. There is absolutely no need for consumers to know or care how many fluid ounces are in a 750ml bottle of Bombay gin. If someone is unable to visualize a 750ml bottle of chardonnay and needs a Chilean wine expert to provide a conversion chart, they have much more serious problems and shouldn't be drinking alcoholic beverages.

When I moved to SC, they still had a law on the books that required all liquor to be dispensed in mini bottles. It was nice knowing that every mixed drink you ordered was still delivered with an actual 1.5 oz shot while most of the rest of the country was getting 1 oz or less (the most popular metered spout sold to bars is 7/8 oz). There was a small window in time before they got rid of the law - but after the liquor companies went full metric with their mini bottles where instead of 1.5 oz (44.36 ml), we were getting 50 ml (1.69 oz) per shot. A lot of drinkers in SC were very pro-metric during that period. :)
 
That doesn't mean it's any harder to relate to than F.

I'm sure people who are used to C hear 32 degrees and think wow that's hot and are confused when they learn that it's the temperature water freezes at.

If we used C on a regular basis 32 would sound hot to us too.

It's all in what you're used to.
Yep--we moved to Europe right after DS16 turned 10. He is used to thinking in C and has been looking up or asking for conversions for the past two weeks as we visit family in the US. They tell him it is going to be 92 today and that means NOTHING to him, because he is not used to it. It's all in having experience with the system
 
Ehhhhh, I see your point. But don't you think there isn't enough precision in the Celsius? Do countries in metric display temperature with decimals? Like, is the difference between 0C and 40C big enough in the metric world?

See: http://thevane.gawker.com/fahrenheit-is-a-better-temperature-scale-than-celsius-1691707793

Or: https://milebehind.wordpress.com/2013/08/04/if-you-cant-understand-the-heat-its-probably-celsius/

I don't really do think that you do see the point. And it was quite obvious that the 2 articles you cited were written by Americans with no actual experience living with Celsius as a part of their daily life.

Since any scientific work uses Celsius calculations rather than Fahrenheit, I would suggest that it is certainly precise enough. Might I point out again that the REST OF THE WORLD is quite content with metric compared to the Imperial system?

In every day use (ie: weather reports, casual conversation) temperature is not taken precisely to one or 2 decimal points. Nor is there any perceived need to do so. Ambient air temperature is too easily affected by other factors (like humidity or wind) to make extremely precise readings pertinent to the average person.

25°C= 77°F. 26°C=78.8°F. Not much of a spread. Add in a high humidity to either of these, and they would "feel" much different. Add in a wind and they would "feel" completely different again. Even if you are inside your home, with the humidity controlled and wind irrelevant, do you notice a perceptible difference of less than 2 degrees? The rest of the world really doesn't think so.

NHdisneylover put it very well. It's really all about having experience with the system. Once you actually live with it, you find that it works.
 
Like I said earlier - we have absolutely no problem being "freezing" when the AC is set to 72F and sweaty hot when it is 80F. That's only an 8 degree range between extreme levels of comfort - yet we still don't feel a need to introduce half-degrees in order to define our sweet-spot.

Having 35 different degrees to define the difference between freezing and a hot 95F is more than adequate when you are looking at atmospheric conditions. You actually only need 6:

1) Winter parka Weather
2) Sweater Weather
3) Windbreaker/sweats Weather
4) T-shirt weather
5) Shorts Weather
6) As naked as the law allows weather
 
0C is cold, 35C is hot? How hot, physically? How about 12C? Hold hold or hot is that? 17C? Compare 35C to 95F. 95 sounds hot. 95 is close to 100. Therefore, that's hot. In C, 100 is water boiling. That's a crazy difference.

There's more wiggle room, for example between 30C and 35C than 90F and 95F.

Um what? I have no clue what you are babbling about.

If I see it's 35C out I know it's going to be a scorcher. 12C is fall jacket weather.

Farenheit means nothing to me.

It's all in your perspective.

I'll fix your post for you

Celcius is hard for ME to relate to.
 
Well - I do remember a late 80s song by the Australian band Midnight Oil. There was one line to the song that didn't quite resonate with Americans.

Out where the river broke
The bloodwood and the desert oak
Holden wrecks and boiling diesels
Steam in forty five degrees

I get that they're talking about it being hot, but 45°F is kind of chilly. There's just something a little bit odd to someone growing up in the US.

On a related note, I was driving my BIL's car in BC and the kph readings were like dark gray on black.
 
n a related note, I was driving my BIL's car in BC and the kph readings were like dark gray on black.
??? Are you talking about the cars speedometer? What kind of car does he drive?
 
American men should be embracing the metric system with open arms. Guys, you're overlooking the most advantageous part. Instead of needing to exaggerate, you can legitimately boast that it's 14cm long.
 












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