Do You Think Disney Ejected This Patron??

[rockstargeisha]

I was waiting in line for the Matterhorn in Disneyland. For those of you that don't know, the Matternhorn is one of the few rides at the park that doesn't have a fast pass option. Unfortunately, this makes for very long lines. I usually just skip it on my visits but I was with friends who really wanted to ride.

Anyhow, we've been in line for probably about 40 minutes. Our line starts moving and I'm engaged in a conversation with a friend. Just as I turn around, this pre-teen boy ducks his body underneathe the railing and proceeds to cut in front of me. I stare bug-eyed at my friend. Asking her if she just saw that. There was no way I was going to let this fly. I gave him about a minute (maybe he had family in line?) before I said "Excuse me..."
He ignored me. I tapped him on the shoulder, "Excuse me, but you need to go to the back of the line." He turned around to face me and said something like "No, I in line here." I stood my ground and said "No, you can't cut, you need to go to the back of the line" I pointed to the back. He then proceeds to tell me that he doesn't speak English. Thinking to myself, didn't he just speak English to me?" I again say "You can't cut in line. Please go to the back." I'm getting pretty angry at this point but left it be. He was blatantly ignoring me, what was I going to do? Physically pull him out of line? We get up to the front of the line finally and he gets on the ride. I told a castmember when we were being loaded into our sled but I don't think there was much he could do about it. Even if this guy hadn't spoken English, or understood it very well, I'm sure he understood what a line was.

 

[starlionblue]

I got an idea. You could get really close to the person, I mean until your mouth is almost touching their ear. Say "cheater" over and over until they snap. Seriously, will Disney do something about THAT? I mean, they won't throw out the line cutters so we have the right to make the line cutter pay ourselves. Oh, and the moron who kept pretending to not speak English, I'm sure he understands most insults. Just say one to him and repeat it every 10 seconds!

 

[Hopelessly_Lost]

There's nothing more infuriating than people who cut in. I just can't understand how people can have the arrogance to blatantly walk in front of people who have been waiting for ages as if they are of more importance. I never have the guts to say anything to them so well done!

 

[ChefBilly]

I worked with a guy who said he was escorted from the MK once.

He said he brought a couple of nips in with him. He bought a soda, walked off to the side - he said he thought he was completely out of sight and alone - and dumped the nips into the soda.

He said he had barely finished doing that when a security CM walked up behind him, put his hand on his shoulder and said, "Please come with me."
He said they brought him out behind Main Street and told him why he was being ejected, then asked him to leave. So he left.

He had to call his wife and kids (they were elsewhere at the time) and tell them. He said he was very embarassed.

That guy is usually full of stories, but knowing him, I believe it could be true.

 

[SelfEmployedDebtFree]

I got an idea. You could get really close to the person, I mean until your mouth is almost touching their ear. Say "cheater" over and over until they snap. Seriously, will Disney do something about THAT? I mean, they won't throw out the line cutters so we have the right to make the line cutter pay ourselves. Oh, and the moron who kept pretending to not speak English, I'm sure he understands most insults. Just say one to him and repeat it every 10 seconds!

I'm NOT one of those people who just let it slide. One of the perks to being a big stocky mean looking bald man.
I wasnt gonna tell my story, but I think I will now.
True story:
I was at Pecos Bills eating at the outside section with my wife and children. Across the walkway there was a man all alone with a severely autistic son. The child was laying face down on the pavement, screaming bloody murder, kicking, and beating his fists on the ground. He had been doing this for about 5-6 minutes straight. Now, I should add here that I am ALSO the father of an autistic child, and I know as well as anyone that sometimes when an autistic child has an "autistic meltdown" the ONLY thing you can do is step back and let it run its course. Anything else is only delaying the unevitable. They usually pass after a few minutes.
On with the story. There was a rich snooty looking couple beside us who were staring (plainly) with a disgusted look on their faces. I sat there quietly and held my tongue as they stared down the father like one would stare down a sex offender or pedofile and as they whispered back and fourth about how horrible a father he must be. I didnt say a word. Then this woman blurts out (loudly... so the father would hear her) "Well!!! if that were MY child I'd......." I looked over and said "Well he's NOT your child! and if you had HALF a brain you could see that THAT child is challenged, and the father is doing his best and he dont need your two cents! Id suggest you shut the heck up and mind your own business!" (my basic words as I recall them). The poor father was doing nothing wrong, and I, having been in this exact same scenario myself MANY times, did what I would have wanted someone to do for me if the tables had been turned.
I sat back down to enjoy my meal while she looked like she just swallowed a bug. Then her husband sprung up from his chair as if he wanted to say something to me and I stood back up, just looked at him, pushed my chair back under the table, and he quickly sat back down and looked the other way.
The child eventually stopped crying and they went on their way. I wanted to give the father a few supportive words, because its not easy raising a child with anger issues, but he got gone before I got done eating.

 

[mking624]

We saw someone being escorted by security, and we can only assume that she was ejected. We were waiting for the parade and this woman in an ECV was sitting next to us. A few feet in front of us was the curb where others were seated, but there was enough space in between all of us so it allowed others to walk through. Another woman walks through our makeshift path and as she walked by the woman in the ECV, ECV woman shouts out "OW!!! You banged into my leg you stupid jerk!" Nevermind that I saw the whole thing and the woman walking by hadn't even touched her, let alone banged into her. But the woman apologized profusely and kept walking. ECV woman kept ranting and raving about it long after she was gone to the point a male guest asked her to stop already since she was pretty loud. This angered her even more and she started using her ECV to block the path...while at the same time she was banging her own legs into the backs of the people who were sitting on the curb in front of us. It was absolutely absurd. Finally that male guest walked up to security who had been chatting with someone a few yards away or so....all I saw was him pointing to the ECV woman...next thing I know, security came over, asked the people on the curb what happened. ECV woman startted trying to "quietly" back on out of there, but the security guy stopped her and asked her to come with him. He did not look pleased at all. She and her family followed him. We don't know where they went other than down towards the exit (but we couldn't actually see if they actually left the park or not).

 

[The Sweetness]

It's the same with those that ignore the 'move all the way to the end of the row' spiel. Me? I like to be on the end...much quicker exit. But, it's a huge pain to crawl over those who feel that they just are entitled to sit wherever they choose. Of course, I can be a bit of a klutz, so most often as I'm crawling past, toes get stepped on, shins hit with my big ole feet, or a purse swings over and makes my point. Such a klutz.

I am the same type of klutz I sure hope anyone who I have to climb over to get to a seat doesnt take a blow to the head from my big Kippling backpack, or even worse~ What if DH accidentally farts in their face? HOW AWFUL

 

[Buzz Litebeer]

That doesnt make it right. Id have stepped on the tour guides toes too.

Ok, not trying to start a fight here, but I am curious...

Let's say you go to WDW and lo and behold, you win a VIP Tour of the Magic Kingdom! No waiting in lines for you and your family! Also, you're told you'll get VIP seating for the parades, fireworks, and shows!

So you go to Mickey's PhilharMagic, and your guide directs you to sit in the dead middle of the theater -- "Despite what you may have heard, these are the best seasts in the house!" he tells you. Immediately, other guests begin grumbling "What's your damage, dude?" "Gee, it's a shame the employees don't follow the rules!" "Who died and made you king, huh?" To cap it all off, someone trying to stamp past you steps on your toes, then smacks your son (or daughter) in the head with a backpack and smirks, "Oh, how clumsy of me. So-rry!"

Just curious here... how would that make you feel about your prize? Would you be mad at Disney for granting you a prize? At the VIP guide? How do you think it should be handled? Do you feel any hostility towards Dream winners when you see them in the parks with their lanyards, ears, or FastPasses? Or even hear on DisBoards when you read their "I won a dream!" threads?

Again, I'm not trying to start a flame war here; I'm just genuinely curious to hear your thoughts and replies.

 

[amykathleen2005]

True that. There are queues in every country, and in most others outside of the US, they are more organized and leave more personal space. I'll always remember the first time we were in Switzerland and people were standing about 3 feet away from the person at the ATM. Can you imagine the pushing and cutting that would ensue here if that kind of space was left "open"? People know what lines are and they can follow simple visual cues even if they don't speak a word of the language - true for everyone, not language specific. When I'm at DLP, even when the announcements are in French I can figure out what to do. I'm as vindictive as everyone else on the board - people with no common courtesy just really make me Why can't eveyone just behave in a civilized manner so that I don't have to be upset at Disney, my favorite calmest happiest place in the whole world to be? Sigh, I know it won't happen, but it's good to know that most everyone else agrees with me on this one.

In some Asian and Northern African countries there is not really the idea of a line to stand in. Whoever gets to the front gets served first, no matter how long others have been waiting. However, I do agree that if you see a line, it is pretty darn obvious what it is for and people who use a language barrier as an excuse are usually just lying to get away with it. Most people that I know that do not speak English fluently will more than willingly learn from their mistakes when corrected, not continue to ignore the rules.

 

[SelfEmployedDebtFree]

Ok, not trying to start a fight here, but I am curious...

Let's say you go to WDW and lo and behold, you win a VIP Tour of the Magic Kingdom! No waiting in lines for you and your family! Also, you're told you'll get VIP seating for the parades, fireworks, and shows!

So you go to Mickey's PhilharMagic, and your guide directs you to sit in the dead middle of the theater -- "Despite what you may have heard, these are the best seasts in the house!" he tells you. Immediately, other guests begin grumbling "What's your damage, dude?" "Gee, it's a shame the employees don't follow the rules!" "Who died and made you king, huh?" To cap it all off, someone trying to stamp past you steps on your toes, then smacks your son (or daughter) in the head with a backpack and smirks, "Oh, how clumsy of me. So-rry!"

Just curious here... how would that make you feel about your prize? Would you be mad at Disney for granting you a prize? At the VIP guide? How do you think it should be handled? Do you feel any hostility towards Dream winners when you see them in the parks with their lanyards, ears, or FastPasses? Or even hear on DisBoards when you read their "I won a dream!" threads?

Again, I'm not trying to start a flame war here; I'm just genuinely curious to hear your thoughts and replies.

OK, first off, I only said I would step on their toes. I didnt say anything about smacking anyone in the head with bags or the other ideas that were tossed out here.
Secondly, however, You are semi-correct. I was thinking the people PAID for special treatment. I wasnt aware it was a "Dream prize". If they PAID some guy to get them special treatment then YES, I would still step on their toes. You shouldnt be able to BUY special treatment like that unless your sponsoring a ride or are helping better the ride. Walts original plan was to build a park that every person could afford and that would be fair to everyone. It wouldnt be fair to those of us who wait in line if you could buy special seats in the middle of the show that cause stumbling, bottle-necking, and "people jams". Ive had people stop in the middle of the rows, and the rows are VERY narrow. Unless your GUMBY its NOT easy to get by them. ESPECIALLY in philharmagic. If however, it was a CM leading dream guests around I wouldnt have a problem with it, but if that were the case it seems they would go about it a little better way. For example, they could have an attraction CM lead some people around from the other side of the row. That wouldnt be much of an effort on their behalf and it would make things better for everyone else. If you read the exerpt YOU typed after that you talked about how it wasnt cheap to hire a guide. If it was a hired guide, YES I would still have a problem with it. this aint Cirque Du Soleil; you dont PAY for special seating on Philharmagic, and NONE should be given. The special seating for dream prize winners I wouldnt have a problem with. The INCONVENIENCE just because someone paid a guide I would have a problem with. You took what I said out of context. The original remark was about PAID GUIDES, not dream winners.
No flames here either. Just a simple misunderstanding.

 

[tink too]

It's the same with those that ignore the 'move all the way to the end of the row' spiel. Me? I like to be on the end...much quicker exit. But, it's a huge pain to crawl over those who feel that they just are entitled to sit wherever they choose. Of course, I can be a bit of a klutz, so most often as I'm crawling past, toes get stepped on, shins hit with my big ole feet, or a purse swings over and makes my point. Such a klutz.

I totally agree - we had an experience like this at "It's Tough To Be A Bug" last October - a family just would not budge from the centre of a row, so DH and DD5 followed me as I squeezed past with our back-pack swinging behind me!

 

[DonaldTDuck]

If it were a dream prize, then Disney should rope off those seats so others can get by and seat the winners when the row is filled to that point. If a paid for guided tour, the tour guide should be savvy enough to flow in and get the middle. I go about every other year, and I've figured out how to do that. Maybe Disney neeks to hire me as a consultant.

WILL WORK FOR TICKETS AND MEALS

 

[Anything Disney!]

I agree that a prize or tour should have roped off seating. This clarifies areas and leaves no doubt as to its use or why someone gets to sit there. Win it or pay for it, it is deserved and there are no speculations, grumpy comments or dirty looks! Priority seating should be managed and the CM's allowed to enforce policy. Rules are rules and they should apply to everyone.

The theme of this thread turned into inappropriate behavior, and yes, it is apparent that most people do have a vindictive streak. People want vent what they'd like to do or have done without actually doing it! (As long as its not illegal, and just for the sake of fun)
I have been to Disneyland every year for the last 8 years. I have seen a woman deck her husband outside Indiana Jones. We've experienced the line cutter, the no speaka da' english epsisodes and chair jumping in the theatres. I have seen kids thrown out of the park for goofing off in the HM. (The ride came to a halt for 20 minutes while we were overlooking the dining room. The lights came on and we got to really check it all out. I'd like to thank the rowdies for this experience!) Fact is, that this happens all the time, regardless of where you are at. DL, WDW, any other theme park, movie theater etc, on the planet!

I explain the rules to our group, let them know what behavior is acceptable, then we can point out the lessons of how not to behave when confronted by them in real life. I never create a confrontation, but I do point out to my own group that what they are seeing is the innapropriate behavior I was talking about. We feel sorry for the people because DL and WDW is the happiest place on earth, and these people unless they change, will never truly enjoy it.

 

[barbmouse]

I also use it as a teaching opportunity. I explain to my dks hopefully so the offenders can hear why we should follow the rules. We point out the rude behavior and tell them why it is wrong. Mostly I wonder what in the (Disney) world is wrong with these people????????

 

[bsmcneil]

it's sad that some people will use violence over seats at a theme park. it's actually pathetic.

 

[Buzz Litebeer]

OK, first off, I only said I would step on their toes. I didnt say anything about smacking anyone in the head with bags or the other ideas that were tossed out here.

That's why the question wasn't directed specifically at you; it was directed to the group at large.

Secondly, however, You are semi-correct. I was thinking the people PAID for special treatment. I wasnt aware it was a "Dream prize". If they PAID some guy to get them special treatment then YES, I would still step on their toes. You shouldnt be able to BUY special treatment like that unless your sponsoring a ride or are helping better the ride.

But that's the rub, isn't it -- and the crux of my argument. You don't know who they were or why a VIP guide seated them there.

 

[SelfEmployedDebtFree]

But that's the rub, isn't it -- and the crux of my argument. You don't know who they were or why a VIP guide seated them there.

yes, and my answer was hypothetical, if you understand that word. Sheesh. let it die already. It smells foul. I wont respond to any further "I gotta have the last word" comments.
The thread is about a lady on Soarin. The rest was smalltalk. .