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[Saffron]

Kim ... Hi! I don't know where to begin. Will is still sleeping. But I'll tell him you said hi when he wakes up, which I imagine will be when he smells food cooking or something. LOL! I guess if you'd come off of your damn clique thread , you'd see that I'm here every single day. Or you'd be able to post other places. But noooooooooo. LOL! I do come here every day. I usually don't post until something like this seems worth while to me, but I do sit back and laugh my butt off at threads that are supposed to be serious.

I'm sorry the way a couple of people posted last night offended you. Or maybe it was just Dan that offended you because you guys were friends? I bet that no one that did the spamming was directing anything at you personally or any one poster in particular. I believe, and it's just my opinion, that they were put up in protest of ALL of the game, exchange, clique etc threads that seem like spam to them, that are on the boards every day.

In all seriousness, I have nothing against any of the clique threads, the game threads, the whatever threads. I don't care if the entire CB turns into one big game board (as if it isn't all ready, there are so many games going on here, on so many levels, it's not funny ). But there are things that make me realize this is NOT the same old CB. I hope none of what I am about to write offends you. It's not my intention at all. It's just something I've been thinking about for a long, long time.

I've seen this happen on only two or three clique threads, so if this doesn't apply to "your clique thread", please, don't think I mean it does. Here goes.

There are people on the PM thread talking about other members of this community, as if they don't or shouldn't exist. That's the kind of stuff that should be kept off the boards. Sometimes they're talked about openly, sometimes a code is used. A code?!?!? Bwhahahahaha! You guys (not meaning you ), especially like to talk about Dan. Is that who Wune is? And there are others that are talked about in a non-community like way. I only started reading the thread when "the list" was brought up somewhere else. I was kind of shocked to read what I read on the thread. So, in my eyes, as much as some may say that clique threads aren't exclusive, and clique threads are just a bunch of people having fun, it's not necessarily so, unless that kind of stuff is fun for people. It's not fun to me, it not being part of a community, it's pretty divisive.

For me, it's when you (again, not meaning you) travel around the board as a group, starting up conversations that obviously have nothing to do with the thread, then hijack the thread all to hell. Why not keep the personal back and forth, nonsense drivel, the inane drink posts etc, to seperate threads or the clique threads? Why does every thread on the CB have to get hijacked by personal conversations between a few? It's almost as if they think other people want to see them talk (which is pretty egotistical) or it's as if they want to ruin threads on purpose, or it's as if they're truly oblivious that other people are posting besides themselves. I know some of you think yourselves to be funny and/or entertaining, but others do not. There's nothing friendly or community minded about hijacking threads. Why it's allowed to continue is beyond me.

FSUMARCHIEF ... that's a pretty simple way to look at things, but the CB is a lot more complex than that. If you just read what I posted about *some* clique threads, maybe you'll understand a bit more where I and maybe others, are coming from.

sheridac ... that's what people are doing, voicing their opinions and posting on a thread they want to post on. You can't expect to voice an opinion, without reservation, and not have an opposing opinion posted (if that's what you mean by judging) though.

 

[WebmasterAlex]

Wow... we have a lot of diverse opinions here. OH YEA it's a community board
Someone asked why Dan's threads were locked. Simple they were being posted in such a number and quantity as to constitute spamming.
First off the good old days were not always so good. We actually recieve far fewer reported posts, on a much busier board, than we did in the good old days.
That is not counting the debate board which was an absolute nightmare to moderate. I think everyone looks to the past with rose colored glasses.
As for the cliques I think that is a function of the bigger busier boards. I think people feel "lost" on such a big board and posting with a smaller group of people anchors them.
We have noticed this and we are working on some ideas that will directly address that issue.
The delay is beause we have once again maxxed out the servers we are on.
I was able to make some adjustments that seem to have helped the "server too busy problem" thank god. That was driving me nuts!
These servers are not close to powerful enough to do what we would like to do. We have some long range plans in the works to completely change the way we host these boards in order to be able to do the things we would like to do. That is, however, months away.

 

[Tigger&Belle]

Tigger&Belle ... you post passive aggressive stuff all the time! When you hijack a thread for your own entertainment ... passive aggressive. When you tell people they should take a nap ... passive aggressive. When you talk about other members on a "clique" thread as if the other members don't matter .... passive aggressive. When you use code words for other members on clique threads, like Wune ... passive aggressive. Even saying to someone "You have 163 posts" " ... is passive aggressive. Etc. Etc. Like I said before, Dan doesn't have the market to himself when it comes to passive aggressive behavior.

True, I'm not perfect and I don't claim to be, but I don't make posts to people with hidden meaning--I say what I mean. If called on it I either explain myself, apologize if I was being mean, or change my attitude. I'm not afraid to eat crap if I'm not playing nice. I don't pretend to be someone I'm not.

No, I don't think telling someone to take a nap is passive/aggressive--I think it's simply the truth. I think Dan is mourning the way it used to be without looking at the positives of the way it is now, which I think is a negative attitude. He's part of the problem instead of being part of the solution. I think him going onto threads, telling people that they are acting sophomoric is nasty. If I did that and was called on it, I would apologize because it's no way to treat other posters.

And I took the wune reference out of my signature for the very reason that you are mentioning, but I don't hold it against anyone else for leaving it in. I think that people are fed up with being judged and are fighting back. I don't always agree with the tactic, but I sure understand with the feelings.

And usually what you might describe as me being passive/aggressive is simply a bad sense of humor on my part. My intention is to have fun and be allowed to do the same. Again, a lot of us have felt judged and have come out with our claws out. Not the way I like to conduct business and not my personality, but if that's the way the other party chooses to act, I can play that way.

 

[GoofyforDisney3]

What surprises me most about the CB board is how far away from Disney it has become. It is much more a generalized social board that has nothing to do with Disney anymore.
Dan is one of the few people on the CB who actually goes to WDW. (and me )
this is just my observation. The CB started out at the general posting board for people coming to the DIS for Disney info. what a concept.
now...its just about games, politics, and other weird posts. These people don't have anything to do with Disney.
just my opinion. I am still here for my Disney fix between trips. I had posted less on the CB because all the fluff posts are sort of boring to me. and juvenile sometimes.

I don't post very much to the community board, but I do lurk here some (not as much as before, but some) I know this is what I always thought the community board on the DIS was supposed to be. I don't mind the game threads or the fluff threads, but it is boring when the first two pages of the board are 30% games, 30% fluff and 20% Prayers and pixie dust threads. The game threads and fluff threads all seem to be the same or a repeat of a previous one. The same game is played over and over. Why? It is very rare for a thread to "fill-up". Occasionally a thread will have been closed, but maybe that is a good thing and a reason not to start a new one? I don't have an answer for that one.

As far as the comments about the CB and how it has changed over the years is that there are not as many conversation threads any more. I think that is why I don't post very much because the answers are all the same and a repeat of the answer before and who wants to read a page or two of the same stuff? I get so bored reading sometimes that I just give up and stop trying to participate in the thread and move on to another one. Sometimes is nice to see people asking and answering other questions or commenting on other postings within a thread instead of just answering the OP with the same old stuff and not adding anything new. Threads don't have to be a debate to be good.

Oh, and one more comment/issue I have is that my biggest pet peeve on any of the boards is that NO ONE USES THE SEARCH FEATURE anymore. Now, I know the search feature doesn't work all of the time, but if people would just look at a page or two of threads their answer is more than likely out there already. Stop being lazy and automatically posting the same question as was asked three threads ago. I know of other boards (and some are disney related) that will lock a thread like that and direct them to the original thread. I often wondered why and now I know.....because it is dang frusterating.

 

[Tigger&Belle]

Like that even matters anymore! There are people posting on the private threads that don't even contribute to anything else on the CB who have thousands of posts! Talk about drivel. I'd rather read 163 posts that actually make sense than 12,000 posts of dancing bananas.

Post count means nothing anymore and it sure as hell doesn't mean you've made a contribution to the DIS.

I've answered this, but will answer it again. He or she was commenting on how it used to be on the CB, but was new poster with 163 posts, so unless he/she was lurking for many years, how would they know how it used to be? I was just asking for clarification about that, which maybe has been answered and I just haven't gotten to it yet--trying to clean my house...

 

[Blondie]

There are people on the PM thread talking about other members of this community, as if they don't or shouldn't exist. That's the kind of stuff that should be kept off the boards. Sometimes they're talked about openly, sometimes a code is used.

You're kidding me! People are being talked about out in the open? I guess I need to go and check some threads.

 

[roseprincess]

For me, it's when you (again, not meaning you) travel around the board as a group, starting up conversations that obviously have nothing to do with the thread, then hijack the thread all to hell. Why not keep the personal back and forth, nonsense drivel, the inane drink posts etc, to seperate threads or the clique threads? Why does every thread on the CB have to get hijacked by personal conversations between a few? It's almost as if they think other people want to see them talk (which is pretty egotistical) or it's as if they want to ruin threads on purpose, or it's as if they're truly oblivious that other people are posting besides themselves. I know some of you think yourselves to be funny and/or entertaining, but others do not. There's nothing friendly or community minded about hijacking threads. Why it's allowed to continue is beyond me.
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Thank you for posting this!!!
Why do these drinking thread disers hijack other threads???
It is very rude to have a thread hijacked!!! I started a thread here on hte CB board about 2 weeks ago, and it got hijacked, by the inane drink thread disers That is very rude!!!


Rosemarie

 

[buddy&wooz]

I think there should be a separate game/exchange board . The CB would be a much more interesting place if other threads didn't keep getting bumped down my all the games.

I understand the desire to have fun cliquey threads and I know that great friendships have developed in them. I also know that for a lot of us they are boring as hell after the first page or two.

I just skip them, but there have been an awful lot of threads that start off interesting and fun but quickly devolve into yet another drivel thread. Just yesterday I was posting a little on the picnip thread that got zapped, but I realized I was in over my head unless I wanted to sit there and refresh all day. I was actually happy to see it go, I feel like I got a piece of my life back .

My intention is to have fun and be allowed to do the same.

I don't mean to pick on you T&B but this comment clarified things a little for me.

Having fun is great, and really, it's why I come here! But constantly hijacking threads and "having fun" ruins the fun for others who don't want that. I like occasionally going into a fun random thread. I don't like going into a thread that looks interesting and mind-provoking and finding it's become a playground. I love that that the T&B clean out your PMs thread exists. Why not stay there (or wherever, but one or two threads...) with the fun... heck, reference other threads and talk about them, but don't hijack them. Stay on topic in the thread itself.

 

[luvmydogs]

Kim ... Hi! I don't know where to begin. Will is still sleeping. But I'll tell him you said hi when he wakes up, which I imagine will be when he smells food cooking or something. LOL! I guess if you'd come off of your damn clique thread , you'd see that I'm here every single day. Or you'd be able to post other places. But noooooooooo. LOL! I do come here every day. I usually don't post until something like this seems worth while to me, but I do sit back and laugh my butt off at threads that are supposed to be serious. ...

Maggie! Maggie! Maggie!

Posting in other places...Oy--grinninghost knows what happened there. Let's just say I learned the hard way that I need to keep my mouth shut when posting personal info about my past when certain members of my family can read it! I think about you guys a lot, though!

I do agree with what an awful lot of you are saying, but more importantly, the way in which you said it--respectfully and with care not to hurt feelings, yet still calling them as you see 'em. Admittedly, I've been so miserable these last few days--my ds is visiting his grandparents in PA and I by the time he gets home, I won't have seen him for almost a month--I miss him so! Also, a good friend of mine just lost his triplets this past week--all three of his babies died, and it's just putting me in one of those pensive, what's it all about moods, I guess. Then I feel guilty for whining when people are going through *real problems* and I'm upset about DIS-stuff! Yeah, The List, and subsequent other threads. Another reason why I think I'm in such a funk lately--I'm so sick and tired of people being mean and nasty and purposefully hateful. Ugh.

You know, I've posted to so many threads about this, that I actually can't remember which threads I'm on anymore--a sure sign to quit! I appreciate your response, Maggie, and I'm going to get off the T&B thread more often and see what else you've got to say! Please tell everyone I'm thinking of them, especially snoopy--I hope she and her family are well and happy!

 

[Saffron]

Hey Alex?

Since you got rid of Dan's posts because they were spam like, can't you use that same rule when people hijack threads with personal conversations that have nothing to do with the thread? Couldn't you just delete the interruption so the thread could get back on course? They're like mini spam.

 

[Blondie]

I don't mean to pick on you T&B but this comment clarified things a little for me.

Having fun is great, and really, it's why I come here! But constantly hijacking threads and "having fun" ruins the fun for others who don't want that. I like occasionally going into a fun random thread. I don't like going into a thread that looks interesting and mind-provoking and finding it's become a playground. I love that that the T&B clean out your PMs thread exists. Why not stay there (or wherever, but one or two threads...) with the fun... heck, reference other threads and talk about them, but don't hijack them. Stay on topic in the thread itself.

I think the problem is that those who do the hijacking don't see it as hijacking. They're having fun.

I think what it boils down to is many people here are tired of reading hijacked threads. That's the bottom line.

 

[nuke]

I've answered this, but will answer it again. He or she was commenting on how it used to be on the CB, but was new poster with 163 posts, so unless he/she was lurking for many years, how would they know how it used to be? I was just asking for clarification about that, which maybe has been answered and I just haven't gotten to it yet--trying to clean my house...

You've never heard of lurking or maybe getting a new user name before.

 

[sheridac]

sheridac ... that's what people are doing, voicing their opinions and posting on a thread they want to post on. You can't expect to voice an opinion, without reservation, and not have an opposing opinion posted (if that's what you mean by judging) though.

I don't expect to voice an opinion, without reservation, and not have an oposing opinion voiced. I never said I did. But, in my opinion, when words like "inane" and "drivel" are used it is being judgemental.

 

[Tigger&Belle]

For me, it's when you (again, not meaning you) travel around the board as a group, starting up conversations that obviously have nothing to do with the thread, then hijack the thread all to hell. Why not keep the personal back and forth, nonsense drivel, the inane drink posts etc, to seperate threads or the clique threads? Why does every thread on the CB have to get hijacked by personal conversations between a few? It's almost as if they think other people want to see them talk (which is pretty egotistical) or it's as if they want to ruin threads on purpose, or it's as if they're truly oblivious that other people are posting besides themselves. I know some of you think yourselves to be funny and/or entertaining, but others do not. There's nothing friendly or community minded about hijacking threads. Why it's allowed to continue is beyond me.
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Thank you for posting this!!!
Why do these drinking thread disers hijack other threads???
It is very rude to have a thread hijacked!!! I started a thread here on hte CB board about 2 weeks ago, and it got hijacked, by the inane drink thread disers That is very rude!!!


Rosemarie

You started a thread, opening asking about a specific poster, as opposed to PMing or e-mailing (assuming he accepts e-mails) that poster... It wasn't like his PM box was full and you had to go the open thread route.

 

[Saffron]

That's true, but you have to understand, the posts are being judged, not the posters. And I think people are losing sight of that. I won't judge anyone on what they post, I don't know them. But I will judge what's posted, so will you, so will everyone. Otherwise no one would ever have an opinion other than the OP.

 

[Tigger&Belle]

You've never heard of lurking or maybe getting a new user name before.

That's why I was asking--for an explanation. That would be lots of years of lurking if he was talking about the olden days of the CB, but of course entirely possible.

 

[Duckfan-in-Chicago]

I think the problem is that those who do the hijacking don't see it as hijacking. They're having fun.

I think what it boils down to is many people here are tired of reading hijacked threads. That's the bottom line.

There are plenty of bottom lines. Are you and anyone that continues this conversation hijacking this thread? My responding to you and your last response are not related to the OP and could be considered OT. The answer to the first post was no. This thread should have then ended. Conversations flowed out of it, but it wasn't the question from the OP and so because it's interesting to some people, it's ok and relavent, but if a few people who pretended to drink had a conversation that continued to flow that wasn't exactly the question in the OP, that's hijacking a thread, and shouldn't be allowed?

I would hope that everyone who posts on the DIS is having fun. It's not mandatory. If it isn't fun to post, and you're doing it anyway, there is a name for that condition. So yes, I think most people prob. don't see it as hijacking, and are having fun.

I don't enjoy reading about moving the games to their own board every day or so. I want everyone who doesn't agree with me to stop right now. It's not fun for me. Would that be considered egotistical on my part?

Everything in the world isn't black and white. Every time someone from a clique thread shows up on a thread, it isn't hijacked. Do you want no humor to be allowed on any threads, and no replies that are off topic and do not directly relate to the OP? Are only certain people allowed to say hello in posts, like long time posters? I see comments, in the middle of threads about any topic like 'haven't seen you in a while...it's good to see you'. Is that where it ends, or are we also allowed in the middle of a thread, off topic to ask about kids. Where do you want to draw the lines? Do you want more rules?

 

[sheridac]

That's true, but you have to understand, the posts are being judged, not the posters. And I think people are losing sight of that. I won't judge anyone on what they post, I don't know them. But I will judge what's posted, so will you, so will everyone. Otherwise no one would ever have an opinion other than the OP.

Respectfully, I disagree. I don't judge. I can agree with your opinion and support it, or disagree and argue it. Voicing my own opinion. Without using words like "inane" and "drivel".

 

[Saffron]

I doubt very much that you don't know the difference between a thread being "hijacked" and normal conversation.

 

[nuke]

I don't think he does Maggie.