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[simpilotswife]

Count me as one of the DB oldies

Nice to see that even Dan can have a temper tantrum now and again.

 

[FSUMARCHIEF]

I tried to resist temptation and not post on here, but I just can't help myself. First, let me identify myself, because I'm certain most folks posting on this thread don't know me. I am a part of the Maelstrom folks. I haven't been a part of the DIS community that long - I certainly wasn't "here way back when."

Here's my thoughts. I came here because my wife had found the DIS and told me about it. When I first started, I lurked exclusively on the Theme Parks board, Resorts Board, and the Dining Board. Then she put me onto a very entertaining trip report. I never came to the community Board until a particular thread was moved over here because it was no longer appropriate for the Trip Report Board. Frankly, I didn't come to the CB because it scared me. There were/are some really funky topics over here. But, to each his own, right?

Now that I am here, I don't click on the threads that don't interest me. I click on the ones that do. Interestingly enough, I have found a place on the Maelstrom threads where I have met people that I consider friends. My wife and I have had lunch with a couple of them them. One of them has been to my church. More lunches are scheduled and a big meet at Disney World is on the calendar.

WHat could be more appropriate for a community board than that? In my mind it would seem that a community boad is a place to build community - to build friendships. All the "old posters" seem to have that and want to go back to the way things were. When all that has happened with the 'shameful' clique threads is that the same type of relationships they built years ago have now been built by new people.

It reminds me of things that happen in my church. When those who have been there for a long time say things like, "We've never done it that way before." Or "I don't like having all these new people here, cause I don't know anyone." Well, it's a load of garbage to me. The whole purpose of a church is to build God's Kingdom - which requires new people. What has caused people to turn away from churches is because the long time people don't want the new people around cause it makes them lose their control and influence, and position. To me that is ridiculous - and I don't do well with that kind of attitude - which is probably why I couldn't resist posting on this thread.

Has the Maelstrom thread become a clique? Maybe? I don't see it that way - From my memory of things, most new posters have been welcomed with open arms. With the possible exception of posters who post like 50 times in 1 hour. That is a little annoying.

What I'm trying to say is this. All these little comments about clique threads and such - isnt' the community board supposed to build community? It has for me. All the complaints about the Board not being the way it was - to me sounds like those folks in my church who complain because the fact that we have tons of children means that the floor gets marked up and things get broken every once in a while.

If things don't change, then they die with those who began them. Change, sometimes is not a bad thing. I am one who has benefitted from the "changes on the CB." Perhaps I'm one to whom a little bit of blame could be tossed at.

Short and simple, if you don't like a thread, the only person forcing you to click on it is you.

I wonder how many flames I'll get?!

Blessings!
Mark

 

[disneyjunkie]

I would be embarassed to have the number of threads some posters have What ever happened to real life friends?

I can understand a teen accumulating a large number of posts in a short period of time, but an ADULT.

 

[Pam]

And while I'm moaning and complaining, are there really people who think "If you start a thread, you own it", and you get to decide who is allowed to post? Come on!! Grow the heck up people!! It's an internet message board. If you want to chit chat with your 3 little friends, I suggest EZBoards, for about 10 bucks you can have a whole board to yourself and I'm willing to bet nobody but you and your 3 friends will go there, because nobody gives a crap.

What sage advice!! Where have I heard that from before???

 

[SandraVB79]

I can understand a teen accumulating a large number of posts in a short period of time, but an ADULT.

Well, that is what happens when I get bored during a meeting or a presentation: I DIS, and I make posts, and because of that, I get a higher post count.
No need for others to judge me on that.

 

[luvmydogs]

My post count tends to go up when I'm going through bouts of insomnia, which I can have for months at a time. When it's 3am and I've just gotten done scubbing my bathroom, yet can't vaccuum because everyone else has the ability to sleep, I come here.

 

[NHAnn]

As long as it is within the guidelines we don't and can't control what people post. Some of this is just the numbers.

OK...but can you clarify why Dan's posts were locked? What guidelines were violated? Forgive me if it was excplained elsewhere, I'm guilty of not having read all the posts and related threads on this matter.
As far as "guidelines"...I think the inconsistency and subjectivity in enforcement has become more of an issue in the last year or so, perhaps as a function of some of the non-"systemic" changes.

.......From my memory of things, most new posters have been welcomed with open arms. With the possible exception of posters who post like 50 times in 1 hour. That is a little annoying.

]I agree...not just on a specific thread but on the CB in general....

 

[MzDiz]

I can understand a teen accumulating a large number of posts in a short period of time, but an ADULT.

That's not really fair. There are many reasons someone would have a high post count like that. Even in the worst case scenerio - a housebound agoraphobic with no friends and only the internet as a social outlet - we still shouldn't judge. If it were you, you'd want to feel comfortable and welcome. Now let's all hug and have a banana!

 

[arkansas mom]

In my mind it would seem that a community boad is a place to build community - to build friendships. All the "old posters" seem to have that and want to go back to the way things were. When all that has happened with the 'shameful' clique threads is that the same type of relationships they built years ago have now been built by new people.

What I'm trying to say is this. All these little comments about clique threads and such - isnt' the community board supposed to build community? It has for me. All the complaints about the Board not being the way it was - to me sounds like those folks in my church who complain because the fact that we have tons of children means that the floor gets marked up and things get broken every once in a while.

Mark

 

[beattyfamily]

You go Dan!

ITA!!!!

 

[Nancy]

Well, hmm, I'm pretty new here, but I must agree with the others about all those games threads. I don't partake but to each their own. However, it's pretty annoying when the first page is dominated by them. Either have a seperate forum for games, or go to Yahoo people.

I don't know what the tone of the board was like before the Debate board was closed, but I find it pretty illogical to say the tone of the CB has gone downhill since all those "rude, nasty, in your face people from the DB have come over here." The title of the thread says something like "Bush ruled against by the SC" or "Speech cut short because of reference to God." Now if you can tell me how on the surface of the page, it makes the tone of the board nasty, I'll listen. But no one forces you to click on that and partake in the debate.

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I've been around for a fairly long time and the CB could be mean and nasty even before the debate board was shut down. Anytime there was a political thread or a Mommy question thread there would be all kinds of slams, maybe after the debate board closed it got a bit worse, but some of those people have moved on and they aren't an issue here anymore.

I don't participate in the game and exchange threads, not my thing, so I jsut skip over them, open topics that seem like they might interest me. If they go off in a different direction because of things that have nothing to do with the OP I close out of them and go on to something else.

I do think a game and exchange board would be a nice idea though.

 

[eclectics]

Well, if there are problems shouldn't they be addressed. I agree the tone of the CB is so different now. The games, the cliques, the bars, the inside jokes taking over threads. If someone has a legit question it gets buried so fast you get no replies. I remember you used to be able to come on here ask a question and within seconds have answers. Not anymore. You are either ignored if you aren't in a clique or pushed down off the page. The fun friendly atmosphere of this place has slowly been slipping away for some time now. There have been many requests for a sub-board for the game and clique threads. I don't see why we can't have one when so many people are expressing their frustration and ultimately leaving the board. I really find it sad that so many people are essientially being run-off. I hope it changes for the better because truthfully the CB is just a shell of it's former self.

Excellent post. I think you and Maggie have hit the nail on the head. I don't claim to have the answers but I'm glad folks are coming forward with their concerns. I, for one, certainly don't enjoy the CB like I used to, and what's the point of being here if you can't have some fun? A lot of threads become confrontational (and/or cliquish) very early on and in a lot of cases, for no reason whatsoever. I agree about having some sub-boards. I think the DIS has grown so much lately, having a general CB is no longer adequate. Just my 2 cents. I would hate to bypass this board altogether because I have learned a lot of things from some very nice folks!

 

[WonderfulDreamer2]

My DH said I am not allowed to raise my hand

I agree with your husband

 

[WonderfulDreamer2]

I tried to resist temptation and not post on here, but I just can't help myself. First, let me identify myself, because I'm certain most folks posting on this thread don't know me. I am a part of the Maelstrom folks. I haven't been a part of the DIS community that long - I certainly wasn't "here way back when."

Here's my thoughts. I came here because my wife had found the DIS and told me about it. When I first started, I lurked exclusively on the Theme Parks board, Resorts Board, and the Dining Board. Then she put me onto a very entertaining trip report. I never came to the community Board until a particular thread was moved over here because it was no longer appropriate for the Trip Report Board. Frankly, I didn't come to the CB because it scared me. There were/are some really funky topics over here. But, to each his own, right?

Now that I am here, I don't click on the threads that don't interest me. I click on the ones that do. Interestingly enough, I have found a place on the Maelstrom threads where I have met people that I consider friends. My wife and I have had lunch with a couple of them them. One of them has been to my church. More lunches are scheduled and a big meet at Disney World is on the calendar.

WHat could be more appropriate for a community board than that? In my mind it would seem that a community boad is a place to build community - to build friendships. All the "old posters" seem to have that and want to go back to the way things were. When all that has happened with the 'shameful' clique threads is that the same type of relationships they built years ago have now been built by new people.

It reminds me of things that happen in my church. When those who have been there for a long time say things like, "We've never done it that way before." Or "I don't like having all these new people here, cause I don't know anyone." Well, it's a load of garbage to me. The whole purpose of a church is to build God's Kingdom - which requires new people. What has caused people to turn away from churches is because the long time people don't want the new people around cause it makes them lose their control and influence, and position. To me that is ridiculous - and I don't do well with that kind of attitude - which is probably why I couldn't resist posting on this thread.

Has the Maelstrom thread become a clique? Maybe? I don't see it that way - From my memory of things, most new posters have been welcomed with open arms. With the possible exception of posters who post like 50 times in 1 hour. That is a little annoying.

What I'm trying to say is this. All these little comments about clique threads and such - isnt' the community board supposed to build community? It has for me. All the complaints about the Board not being the way it was - to me sounds like those folks in my church who complain because the fact that we have tons of children means that the floor gets marked up and things get broken every once in a while.

If things don't change, then they die with those who began them. Change, sometimes is not a bad thing. I am one who has benefitted from the "changes on the CB." Perhaps I'm one to whom a little bit of blame could be tossed at.

Short and simple, if you don't like a thread, the only person forcing you to click on it is you.

I wonder how many flames I'll get?!

Blessings!
Mark

Best response on the entire thread.

 

[aplejax76]

I can understand a teen accumulating a large number of posts in a short period of time, but an ADULT.

I'm wondering if you are referring to the "shameless posting thread". It might have started out that way but it quickly turned into a group of people talking about daily lives. Just like all the other threads.

By the way, so what if that is what it is. I don't think it means you are a child!!!!

 

[sheridac]

I'm going to weigh in here. Admitedly, I've only been a part of these boards for a little over a year. So, I don't know what the Community Board was like "way back when". But, I'd like to refresh everyone's memory of the definition of the word Community....

1 : a unified body of individuals: as a : STATE, COMMONWEALTH b : the people with common interests living in a particular area; broadly : the area itself <the problems of a large community> c : an interacting population of various kinds of individuals (as species) in a common location d : a group of people with a common characteristic or interest living together within a larger society <a community of retired persons> e : a group linked by a common policy f : a body of persons or nations having a common history or common social, economic, and political interests <the international community> g : a body of persons of common and especially professional interests scattered through a larger society <the academic community>
2 : society at large
3 a : joint ownership or participation <community of goods> b : common character : LIKENESS <community of interests> c : social activity : FELLOWSHIP d : a social state or condition

By very definition the Community Board is, or should be a place where everyone, from all walks of life, with different beliefs can come together.

Take a look at the part I bolded. Better yet, I'll repeat it here. a group of people with a common characteristic or interest living together within a larger society That's what the individual threads are.

The beauty of our "community" is that everyone has, or should have (adhering to the guidelines of course), the right to post their thoughts. Or play their games. Or greet their friends. Without reservation. And without judgement.

 

[HaleyB]

Well said Mark.

Might I add, how hard is it, really, to look on page two or three? Honestly people, do we really need to borrow trouble here?

It is the 4th of July. Happy 4th of July. Celebrate freedom.

 

[Disney-Kim]

What surprises me most about the CB board is how far away from Disney it has become. It is much more a generalized social board that has nothing to do with Disney anymore.
Dan is one of the few people on the CB who actually goes to WDW. (and me )
this is just my observation. The CB started out at the general posting board for people coming to the DIS for Disney info. what a concept.
now...its just about games, politics, and other weird posts. These people don't have anything to do with Disney.
just my opinion. I am still here for my Disney fix between trips. I had posted less on the CB because all the fluff posts are sort of boring to me. and juvenile sometimes.

 

[The Mayor]

Anyone knowm why the Travel Channel has more shows about WDW than the Disney Channel

 

[Tigger&Belle]

You have 14,600+ posts which is pretty confusing also.
WHat is your point? Everyone is welcome to post on the CB no matter what their post count is.

I only meant that this is a person that doesn't even have 200 posts that joined a few months ago, commenting on the way things used to be. I was confused by that. I've been here for I think around 6 years, so my post count is not surprising and even I'm not commenting on how it used to be on the Community forum, because I've only been hanging around on the CB for less than 2 years. I could comment on how it "used to be" on other forums, but I'm not on those forums right now, and I probably wouldn't comment even if I were. I have no problem with a newbie weighing in, it was the comment that confused me.