Do you think a college professor has the right to do this?

[TDC Nala]

I think the professor can run his class however he wants - if he doesn't want someone coming in late to every single class, that's his call. I think he should have called her on it in private before kicking her out of the class and told her she couldn't be late anymore. If it's his decision that she will have to show up on time or drop the class, he could have told her that and given her the opportunity to either take another class or discuss a new schedule with her employer. Also think she should have told the professor ahead of time when she knew her work schedule was changing that she would be 10 minutes late to every class because of work - and mouthing off to the professor was a really bad idea.

 

[tasha99]

I think the professor can run his class however he wants - if he doesn't want someone coming in late to every single class, that's his call. I think he should have called her on it in private before kicking her out of the class and told her she couldn't be late anymore. If it's his decision that she will have to show up on time or drop the class, he could have told her that and given her the opportunity to either take another class or discuss a new schedule with her employer. Also think she should have told the professor ahead of time when she knew her work schedule was changing that she would be 10 minutes late to every class because of work.

I agree--rude of the student to not communicate with her teacher, and rude of the teacher to address the issue publicly in an attempt to shame her.

 

[maxiesmom]

Honey please.....colleagues are late all the time at work and so are our bosses. That is life and the nature of work. Most of the people in my class would think that....and if u would have been silently cheering then u are the perfect example of people today. You can't focus on yourself or what u are doing and a slight disturbence would throw u off track? U need to judge others and wish bad for them. I would not want a person like u in my life or on my team at work. What are u gonna do when the power goes out at work, or the computers are down or there is something that disrupts the "norm". And for those of u who think it is laughable that college should prepare us for the real world......you reap what u sow....stop complaining about people and the quality of work today.
It is a distraction????? please....then u need to learn how to focus

All of u are favoring some professor that u don't know at what is probably an overpriced college. The type of college that makes someone take classes they don't need just to pull in money. Yet everyone backs the professor like a bunch of sheep. Then u are nasty to me? Someone who wants to be a part of your community. But no I am the ******* and the professor is still right? Thanks jeez........

If this post wasn't so pittiful, it would almost be funny. Most employers do not accept people being late very often, before they get the boot. That is something you do need to learn to be able to function in the real world. Out there, you do reap what you sow, and being late is not a good thing!

 

[bgirldeb]

Your post highlights the failures of the American educational system in this country. Along with the poor job some parents are doing preparing their child for the outside world. Your lack of understanding basic rules of life are stunning and only matched by the poor grammar of your post. There's just so much wrong in what you wrote above, it's stunning.

If show up late for work constantly, you're gone. Period. Employers are not going to put up with that without a very valid excuse and even then, they're not going to accept for long. Constant tardiness is a sign of entitlement and arrogance in the eyes of many employers. In today's economy and job market, workers are very expendable. If you can't bother to show up on time ready to work, how can a boss depend on you in a crisis or as you said, when something isn't in the norm? The arrogance you displayed in your post is off the chart

One of the benefits of going to college is that it's supposed to help prepare you for life, whether you understand that or not. Obvious you missed that lesson, along learning how to correctly write a sentence using proper spelling. If you are any indication of the young people coming out of school today, then it's no wonder why China is overtaking us in just about every field.


P.S. Please thank your Uncle for creating this thread, it's been a hoot.

 

[Cinderella94]

Your post highlights the failures of the American educational system in this country. Along with the poor job some parents are doing preparing their child for the outside world. Your lack of understanding basic rules of life are stunning and only matched by the poor grammar of your post. There's just so much wrong in what you wrote above, it's stunning.

If show up late for work constantly, you're gone. Period. Employers are not going to put up with that without a very valid excuse and even then, they're not going to accept for long. Constant tardiness is a sign of entitlement and arrogance in the eyes of many employers. In today's economy and job market, workers are very expendable. If you can't bother to show up on time ready to work, how can a boss depend on you in a crisis or as you said, when something isn't in the norm? The arrogance you displayed in your post is off the chart

One of the benefits of going to college is that it's supposed to help prepare you for life, whether you understand that or not. Obvious you missed that lesson, along learning how to correctly write a sentence using proper spelling. If you are any indication of the young people coming out of school today, then it's no wonder why China is overtaking us in just about every field.


P.S. Please thank your Uncle for creating this thread, it's been a hoot.

 

[Disney Doll]

A while back I went to a George Carlin show. I am not what I would call a huge fan of his. Some of his work I found exceedingly funny, some of it I found exceedingly insulting.

He did however do a portion of his show about young people today and their sense of entitlement and belief that nothing bad should ever happen to them.

It was something along the lines of everybody gets a trophy, everybody makes the team, everybody is special, noboy is ever told they are wrong, if someone does tell them they are wrong then Mommy & Daddy run to their defense and tell the mean person how special their child is. His last line in the "riff" was "For some of these kids, the 1st time they ever hear anything negative about themselves is when their 1st boss says 'your work sucks, you're never on time, we don't want you working here, you're fired, now leave!'". It was quite funny and quite sad at the same time, because for the most part, George was right.

 

[Allison]

Honey please.....colleagues are late all the time at work and so are our bosses. That is life and the nature of work. Most of the people in my class would think that....and if u would have been silently cheering then u are the perfect example of people today. You can't focus on yourself or what u are doing and a slight disturbence would throw u off track? U need to judge others and wish bad for them. I would not want a person like u in my life or on my team at work. What are u gonna do when the power goes out at work, or the computers are down or there is something that disrupts the "norm". And for those of u who think it is laughable that college should prepare us for the real world......you reap what u sow....stop complaining about people and the quality of work today.
It is a distraction????? please....then u need to learn how to focus

It's not the nature of work in my career. My staff doesn't show up late and my boss arrives hours before most people. It wouldn't be tolerated in my office. It's called having a work ethic.

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

Honey please.....colleagues are late all the time at work and so are our bosses. That is life and the nature of work. Most of the people in my class would think that....and if u would have been silently cheering then u are the perfect example of people today. You can't focus on yourself or what u are doing and a slight disturbence would throw u off track? U need to judge others and wish bad for them. I would not want a person like u in my life or on my team at work. What are u gonna do when the power goes out at work, or the computers are down or there is something that disrupts the "norm". And for those of u who think it is laughable that college should prepare us for the real world......you reap what u sow....stop complaining about people and the quality of work today.
It is a distraction????? please....then u need to learn how to focus

All of u are favoring some professor that u don't know at what is probably an overpriced college. The type of college that makes someone take classes they don't need just to pull in money. Yet everyone backs the professor like a bunch of sheep. Then u are nasty to me? Someone who wants to be a part of your community. But no I am the ******* and the professor is still right? Thanks jeez........

Oh dear!

You caught us!

We are all entitled people who rather support a professor we don't know than the relative of a poster whom we also do not know. Busted!

Since workplaces in the "real world" are so accommodating for tardy folks, I am sure the workplace of the niece would be just fine with her bolting early. She can just tell her boss that in the real world, schedules do not matter. When she tries that and succeeds, I hope the OP will let us know. It surely would solve her school tardiness issues.


*Oh, and I went to a state school where my tuition was covered by a state scholarship. $1200-$1500 per semester.

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

It's not the nature of work in my career. My staff doesn't show up late and my boss arrives hours before most people. It wouldn't be tolerated in my office. It's called having a work ethic.

To further add, my husband had to fire an employee once. They were work at home and there was some flexibility in the schedule. But one guy decided to tell my husband, who was the boss, how things work when you work from home. My husband had to tell him that he would no longer be working from home as he no longer had a job.

 

[disneymom3]

Anyone else find it odd how many "newbies" hmmhmmm....aliases...post for the FIRST time on controversial threads with controversial opinions, often agreeing with the OPs?

Hmm, it's so odd, isn't it?

 

[crashbb]

Anyone else find it odd how many "newbies" hmmhmmm....aliases...post for the FIRST time on controversial threads with controversial opinions, often agreeing with the OPs?

Hmm, it's so odd, isn't it?

Yes.

Does anyone find it out that how a "newbie" poster can suddenly lose the ability to write with correct grammar, after a few days absence?

 

[happygirl]

i love bannas:i love my dotter:love

 

[Deb in IA]

So it's Friday monring now and there needs to be some response as to what happened in class last night...

I see you are back now, BCB.

So, how's niecey's class? Come on, we are dying for an update!!

 

[GinnyEmma]

Lalalalala...he can't hear you...

 

[Deb in IA]

Lalalalala...he can't hear you...

Methinks you are right.

Hey!

Maybe if we POST A POLL!!!

"What happened to niece's class?"

a. She got kicked out
b. She went back to class 10 minutes late and professor called security to remove her
c. She wimped out and just never went back
d. She decided to never tell her uncle about her college experience again

 

[cm8]

Methinks you are right.

Hey!

Maybe if we POST A POLL!!!

"What happened to niece's class?"

a. She got kicked out
b. She went back to class 10 minutes late and professor called security to remove her
c. She wimped out and just never went back
d. She decided to never tell her uncle about her college experience again

I'll take A for $10 bucks please

 

[Big Cuddly Bear]

Okay, I quoted this one before I saw how old the thread was and that the OP dropped out somewhere along the way when it became clear the majority of people disagree with his assessment. I will refrain from repeating what everyone has already said.




Um, so I have only glanced at the anti dis a handful of times, mostly trying to figure out what it was after people like you mentioned it here. It seems like the insults you are flinging about HERE are what that board is all about. I fully admit I did not read this entire thread and after the first couple of pages scanned it to figure out why it came back up to the top--only to find that people hoping for the OP to come back with an update (in admittedly a not so nice, though I feel a bit justified, way) and these tirades are the reason for the bump.

You have had a week to cool your heals and reason out a comment to anything before that which might have offended you. Yet, you seem to think what you typed in the above posts is acceptable on the DIS I really think it would be better of you let your frustrations out some other way and then post in a calmer manner--maybe some people will see your real point then and take it into consideration. The way your posts read now just turn people off and make you into the bad guy.

You also clearly have a lot of knowledge of things for someone with less than 20 posts. My guess is either you have been banned before for being so rude, or you have created an alternate persona to hide behind with these opinions. Neither makes me want to take you very seriously. Both just lead to me wanting to speculate over who might be doing this (probably not the reaction you are wanting, huh?). The posts are so defensive they sound like the OP or OPs niece would be writing them. I hope not.

ETA--I went back and scanned your posts and the posts leading up to them in the thread. You start off so nice and well reasoned but were quick to turn defensive and judgmental yourself. I see I am far from the only one speculating about WHY this hits you so close to home (ie--why do you care THIS much unless you are one of the players). If you have lurked as long as you say, you will know that your posting style draws out more barbs and staying calm and polite will get you a much better outcome (much like the OPs niece would have had a much better chance of resolving things with her prof had she calmly and politely spoken to him about her schedule change at work from the get go instead of being rude and antagonistic in class).

Nope. Not me. And I doubt my niece is on DIS.

 

[Big Cuddly Bear]

Methinks you are right.

Hey!

Maybe if we POST A POLL!!!

"What happened to niece's class?"

a. She got kicked out
b. She went back to class 10 minutes late and professor called security to remove her
c. She wimped out and just never went back
d. She decided to never tell her uncle about her college experience again

E. None of the above. She went to talk to someone about it, and they offered her a slot in a morning class, which now fits her schedule. She also found out that the professor WAS within his rights to say what he said.... HOWEVER, she was also told that professors are told that they should give night time adult students some slack when it comes to being late, as they tend to have more responsibilities than FT students.

I waited until I got a chance to ask her before posting an answer.

Personally, my thoughts have changed a little, but not all that much. I was in college over a period of 6 years working on a Bachelors and Master's degree, and I have to say, if someone quietly walked in and sat down, there is no way that would have distracted me, even during a test - at least not enough to care about.... And I know my niece. I am sure she was quiet until she felt like the professor went beyond where he needed to go.

She also now realizes that there would probably have been no issue had she told him first. But also, knowing her, she might say the same things again if it happened again. But I 100% believe her when she told me she tried to be as quiet as possible upon entering a class.

 

[NHdisneylover]

E. None of the above. She went to talk to someone about it, and they offered her a slot in a morning class, which now fits her schedule. She also found out that the professor WAS within his rights to say what he said.... HOWEVER, she was also told that professors are told that they should give night time adult students some slack when it comes to being late, as they tend to have more responsibilities than FT students.

I waited until I got a chance to ask her before posting an answer.

Personally, my thoughts have changed a little, but not all that much. I was in college over a period of 6 years working on a Bachelors and Master's degree, and I have to say, if someone quietly walked in and sat down, there is no way that would have distracted me, even during a test - at least not enough to care about.... And I know my niece. I am sure she was quiet until she felt like the professor went beyond where he needed to go.

She also now realizes that there would probably have been no issue had she told him first. But also, knowing her, she might say the same things again if it happened again. But I 100% believe her when she told me she tried to be as quiet as possible upon entering a class.

Thanks for the update. Had your niece talked to the prof, or someone else in the first place she might have been able to be moved into that morning class as soon as her work schedule changed. It pays to act like an adult

I think the professor DID give her some leeway and understanding. He let the late entrances slide for three weeks. Plenty of time for her to let him know if there was a permanent problem (like she had), figure out parking if that was the issue, resolve a temporary issue like a sick child or late babysitter, etc.

I had professors who locked the door at the start of class. Never bothered me--I made efforts to be there on time always and if something truly unavoidable came up and made me late (happened once that i can remember with a professor who locked doors), I read in the hallway until class was over and approached the professor after class to explain why I was not there and to ask if I needed to do anything to make up for the absence (and to way lay a classmate so I could copy their notes).

 

[cm8]

E. None of the above. She went to talk to someone about it, and they offered her a slot in a morning class, which now fits her schedule. She also found out that the professor WAS within his rights to say what he said.... HOWEVER, she was also told that professors are told that they should give night time adult students some slack when it comes to being late, as they tend to have more responsibilities than FT students.

I waited until I got a chance to ask her before posting an answer.

Personally, my thoughts have changed a little, but not all that much. I was in college over a period of 6 years working on a Bachelors and Master's degree, and I have to say, if someone quietly walked in and sat down, there is no way that would have distracted me, even during a test - at least not enough to care about.... And I know my niece. I am sure she was quiet until she felt like the professor went beyond where he needed to go.

She also now realizes that there would probably have been no issue had she told him first. But also, knowing her, she might say the same things again if it happened again. But I 100% believe her when she told me she tried to be as quiet as possible upon entering a class.

I'm glad that she did not get kicked out of class and that she was able to find something that better fit her schedule!

OAN: Thanks for updating