chobie said:
Actaully, I was more defending the people who don't read these boards and have no idea that staying at anything less than a delux makes them an automatic suspect for rule breaking. You know, the people who a trip to WDW is really a once a lifetime deal and who will never stay at the POLY and who might even stay at an off-site, God forbid.
Sorry, I was not clear.
However, I have seen threads were people who stay at the concierge level and witness poor behavior there also blame it on people who cannot actually afford the conceirge level but are irresponisble and max out the credit cards to stay there. So, No matter what level people stay at any boorish behavior will atributed to one having less money then those who behave properly.
I don't think that's what people are saying.
I think the general tone is that people who stay at the deluxe's are paying for deluxe accomodations. People who are not paying for these have no right to use them. I sincerely doubt that the pool-hopping issue is caused by deluxes going to the AS pool, but the rule applies in both directions, as well as laterally.
The majority of people who go to WDW never even think about pool-hopping. Their families select the resort they want to enjoy, and they have a good time. As it has been pointed out countless times, some people do not believe that the rules apply to them, and will do what they please. It doesn't mean that the rest of us need to accept this behavior and assume that we can't make a difference. Standing back and doing nothing has never worked in the recorded history of mankind.
I really don't care where anyone stays, as long as they STAY there. Visit the other hotels and tour the lobbies, eat at the restaurants, take pictures. My first "on property stay" was a direct result of walking into the Wilderness Lodge. I looked at my new bride and said "We're staying here next time." I've been to most of the properties, and I choose to spend MORE because I get two weeks a year, and 7 days at WDW. On my first trip to WDW, I couldn't afford to stay on property. Now, I can, and I can afford the deluxes. I never once considered breaking the rules because it affects a bunch of people I don't know, but respect as human beings anyway.
Short disclosure on the "social class theory" I've read. I grew up with my grandparents who took in my mom and three brothers after a failed marriage. At the time, I assumed we were middle class, because there were people in the neighborhood that had less than us. As I got older and exposed to more people, the middle class seemed optimistic. I worked my way through college, got an education, and repaid my debt. In the 18 years since I graduated, I have prospered through hard work, determination, and never thinking that I was "owed" anything.
Many people have posted with the assumption that there is no respect for people at the Values or Moderates. I disagree. I have no respect for people that have no respect for others.
Class is not a matter of money. It is how you conduct your daily life and how you act in the presence of others. I continue to explain to my children that there is right and wrong in the world, and they need to be strong enough to make the right choices.
It might seem like the "Deluxes" are all about money and entitlement, but I think that if everyone read this thread very carefully, the issues are not financially motivated.
Finally- my 2 cents on food sharing...
Grandfather was a drill sargeant in the Marine Corps. If you took it, you ate it. Having grown up in the Depression, waste was not an option. The Corps came home with him, and he raised his family that way. I was also raised that way.
If you think you've ever been poor, leave the US for any Third World country. You might view splitting a hamburger instead of wasting 1/2 of a hamburger differently...
Steve
I pay for a Nissan, I drive a Nissan- not a Mercedes.