Disney finally Made Me Mad

[ArwenMarie]

OMG - thanks for the laugh!

I just don't get it. I mean I have read that some folks didn't like Soar in' or TT, maybe they didn't like either. But then there is Maelstrom or Illuminations. Is Epcot really struggling with having Tier 1 available? Are people really that gullible and will be happy to get a tier 1 to see pooh & Tigger? Gullible might not be the right word. I guess like the OP, I'm rather mad and disgusted it's come to this.

I can see adding stuff to FP+ just to increase capacity...but why "FP+ ONLY"?

 

[mom2rtk]

I hope Disney knows what they're doing to your liver!

I'm always willing to take one for the team.

Or two. :

 

[Missyrose]

Epcot kiosks:

At Mission: SPACE
At Soarin', downstairs at The Land pavilion
At Guest Relations in Future World
At the digital "tip board" in the middle of Future World Plaza (behind Spaceship Earth and the Future World fountain)
At the International Gateway entrance to the park
In the Future World West walkway, on the way to The Land pavilion

 

[practicallyperfect77]

I can see adding stuff to FP+ just to increase capacity...but why "FP+ ONLY"?

Maybe so in earnings releases they can brag about how many more people are using FP+ and how they are able to get more people through the door? I still struggle a little with that one. I was always under the impression the closures were dictated by fire code. Guess not though b/c I just read a quote today that said something about MM+ allowed them to get more in the door b/c the system allowed Disney to move guests to other locations and this allowed more guests to enter?.

 

[practicallyperfect77]

Epcot kiosks:

At Mission: SPACE
At Soarin', downstairs at The Land pavilion
At Guest Relations in Future World
At the digital "tip board" in the middle of Future World Plaza (behind Spaceship Earth and the Future World fountain)
At the International Gateway entrance to the park
In the Future World West walkway, on the way to The Land pavilion

Thanks Missyrose!

 

[2Tiggies]

Is it part of the new 4th FP I wonder? Like so when you go to get your 4th FP, you're like "Oh wow, I got a FP ONLY meet with Pooh!"

Anything is possible. It's not the first time Disney logic has made me go

But for a company with such amazing imagination, they could be a bit more creative in the delivery. Or they are waiting to see how much of an outcry there is and either people adapt and it quietens down or they are unhappy and vocal about it and we see another announcement that they are listening and guess what ..... because you asked for it, we now present you with ..... a STANDBY LINE

 

[morethananyonex]

Ok, so now tell me again why A&E aren't FP+ only?

I can't keep track of Disney's logic here lol

Because when a guest finds out Pooh and Tigger is FP+ only, they will probably shrug their shoulders and come back with a FP.

When a guest finds out A&E is FP+ only they will probably pull out a concealed weapon and attack the CM in the name of their child's vacation.

 

[sethschroeder]

Touche.

At least you won't have to lug those pieces of paper around.

Well it sounds like you will be able to make reservations from your phone on your 4th FP+ at some point. So I don't see any issue with this whole running around thing.

Does it stink a FP+ is required? Yes, but I assume they have gotten a lot of negative feedback on the A+E character meet and greet about waiting in the line too long so they are starting to eliminate standby for all Characters so that its a shorter wait for all? Over reaction likely though...

 

[ArwenMarie]

Riot prevention/cast member safety?

Disney logic!

 

[practicallyperfect77]

Well it sounds like you will be able to make reservations from your phone on your 4th FP+ at some point. So I don't see any issue with this whole running around thing.

Does it stink a FP+ is required? Yes, but I assume they have gotten a lot of negative feedback on the A+E character meet and greet about waiting in the line too long so they are starting to eliminate standby for all Characters so that its a shorter wait for all? Over reaction likely though...

I don't think you can compare A&E with P&T. That would be like getting rid of the standby for Stitch b/c people are complaining about the line for Mine Train.

 

[JennyMP03]

I have been cautiously optimistic about FP+ in general, but wow. If I hadn't seen the source, I might think someone who hated FP+ made this up just to stoke the embers.

FP+ only, and Tier 1 at that? Poor form, indeed.

 

[2Tiggies]

I assume they have gotten a lot of negative feedback on the A+E character meet and greet about waiting in the line too long so they are starting to eliminate standby for all Characters so that its a shorter wait for all? Over reaction likely though...

Fair enough. But these are characters which, although popular, never had unreasonable standby times to begin with. Imagine making Journey Into The Imagination or IASW FP+ only.

 

[mom2rtk]

I don't think you can compare A&E with P&T. That would be like getting rid of the standby for Stitch b/c people are complaining about the line for Mine Train.

More Disney logic.

 

[sethschroeder]

I don't think you can compare A&E with P&T. That would be like getting rid of the standby for Stitch b/c people are complaining about the line for Mine Train.

Ya and see AE is not FP+ only as well? Just trying to think of a reason to do this? In the end it likely will be open for a 4th FP+ for those who want to.

 

[cmwade77]

I would definitely not expect this to last this way.

Talk about a way to make a lot of bad publicity for FP+ very quickly.

Oh, and what about cast members, they can't get FP+ in advance, so how are they supposed to do the meet and greets?

 

[ArwenMarie]

I don't think you can compare A&E with P&T. That would be like getting rid of the standby for Stitch b/c people are complaining about the line for Mine Train.

Stitch...now by FP ONLY!

This must be to make these M&Gs seem exclusive. Or maybe a trial to turn all of them into FP only...

 

[practicallyperfect77]

I really wonder if it's all about manipulating behavior. B/c people might "feel good" if they get to do something that is FP+ only. They think they are special and it increases magic? Or maybe these are the specials that will come via an email.....so once you spend a certain amount of $ you get a special FP+ to meet P&T.

 

[mom2rtk]

I would definitely not expect this to last this way.

Talk about a way to make a lot of bad publicity for FP+ very quickly.

Oh, and what about cast members, they can't get FP+ in advance, so how are they supposed to do the meet and greets?

At a time when some people were starting to come around on it. Really has me scratching my head.

 

[practicallyperfect77]

Ya and see AE is not FP+ only as well? Just trying to think of a reason to do this? In the end it likely will be open for a 4th FP+ for those who want to.

I'm confused. A&E isn't FP+ only....there is a standby line. I do agree that I think there will be plenty availability for the P&T m&g, but think it's rather ridiculous to have it be FP+ only when it never had a long line to begin with.

 

[CAHarwell]

OK, going to step out and play the devil's advocate here. It's actually a pretty shrewd marketing move. There are a lot of families with toddlers who don't spend a lot of time in Epcot. One of the things that is attractive to those families are the M&G, and very often the lines are very long. Making some of the M&G FP+ only might encourage those families to try Epcot, since getting the little ones in to see their favorite characters will be much easier and quicker, because for the most part, only the families with small children will spend a FP on those M&G. Now, it would make a whole lot of sense if they would make those a special tier (FPMG tier 1), but it still makes some sense to me for that demographic.

OK, let the flaming begin