Disney endorses....

[RickinNYC]

ANYWAY, let's get things back on trak and let me say that I am so happy to see that the vast majority of you are confident enough in yourselves to support others that would not otherwise be able to gain in leaps & bounds in equality without you next to us. The gay community is the minority so we need everyone's support.

And I personally thank you. So does Joe!

Here's to happily planning our guest list for a magical Disney ceremony!!! Cheers!

 

[SlightlyGoofy]

Disney endorses all sorts of things, it allows people who are not legally married to share rooms, it allows people who beat their spouses, children, have been convicted of felonies, drunk drive, lie, steal, cheat, and many other things to spend their money on property.

I happen to be a Christian and I certainly hope that God is not nearly as judgemental as some (few) mere mortals appear to be on this earth.

When I was younger I was guilty of far more intolerance than I am now but I read, became educated, met a wide array of people, and learned from those experiences. I am so tolerant that I do not believe that 'every single' person of ANY group is good nor bad. People are people and I have enough trouble keeping myself in check to worry about what others do. ::cop:

Two sentences sum up my life's philosphy "You can swing your arm as much as you want unless you hit someone else's nose" AND "Do what you want as long as you do not do it in the street and scare the horses".

One more to add - It is possible to disagree without being disagreeable.

I personally ONLY associate with people who agree with me ALL the time. I am a very lonely lady.

Slightly Goofy

 

[NYBlue1]

Psst...In your 10 plus years to Disneyworld did you ever notice the large number of Gays that work and entertain in the park and at the resorts? Cause really its an above the average you see in most work places amount for the size of the resort...OH maybe you DIDNT NOTICE...cause they are JUST LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE .they can entertain you ...they just cant have a personal life where they are trying to enter into committed productive lives like the rest of the couples in the world...makes sence

 

[gris gris]

I believe Disney has made a bad decision allowing FairyTale same-sex weddings/commitment ceremonies at their parks, resorts & on cruises.

I've just cancelled what was to be our 10th family vacation to Disneyworld.

The magic is gone...

I'd love to know how you explained to your family why you cancelled the trip. Your kids probably said "oh come on mom (or dad) our neighbor is gay, big deal". You probably have homosexual people in your life and don't even know it.

I'm proud of Disney!

 

[RickinNYC]

I believe Disney has made a bad decision allowing FairyTale same-sex weddings/commitment ceremonies at their parks, resorts & on cruises.

I've just cancelled what was to be our 10th family vacation to Disneyworld.

The magic is gone...

Ok, I know your post was supposed to likely incense folks but I, for one, got one massive giggle out of it.

Pssssssttt..... you know gay people. TRUST me.

I edited to add: The owner of THIS board... the DIS board is (GASP) gay as well.

Is it just me or am I the only one that keeps hearing "Savoir faire is EVERYwhere!" bouncing around in my head?

 

[GEM]

I believe Disney has made a bad decision allowing FairyTale same-sex weddings/commitment ceremonies at their parks, resorts & on cruises.

I've just cancelled what was to be our 10th family vacation to Disneyworld.

The magic is gone...

Oh well. Your loss. I honestly think this is one of the most bizarre posts I have ever read on these boards.

 

[mary174]

Yay Disney! I'm so glad that Disney feels able to stop hiding behind the must have a license dodge. Hopefully, this is one more sign that our national attitude is improving towards this unfortunately still legally discriminated against group. There may always be discrimination, but I'm more in favor of public attitude being against the discriminators than the discriminatees. Even if that does make a new form of discrimination.
I'm all for the state getting out of the marriage business. A marriage should not be decided by the government. Let the government determine the rules for what civil commitments between people entitles them to, as far as tax breaks and services. The relationship itself should only be the business of the people involved. If a couple wants to be married by a church, then that should be the business of the couple and the church. If a couple wants to exchange vows of commitment between themselves then that should be up to them. If both couples sign a paper legally validating their commitment to eachother to the state and keep the commitment, then why should the state be allowed to treat them any differently from each other.

 

[write2caro]

I believe Disney has made a bad decision allowing FairyTale same-sex weddings/commitment ceremonies at their parks, resorts & on cruises.

I've just cancelled what was to be our 10th family vacation to Disneyworld.

The magic is gone...

Uhhhh... seriously?!?!? I'm afraid to ask what magic might be gone... yikes. Did you think there were no gay people there and now that fantasy has been shattered? Wow.

[Sorry I broke my promise and posted again - my moratorium lasted all of 2hrs20min, but I couldn't ignore this. Wow.]

 

[va32h]

I believe Disney has made a bad decision allowing FairyTale same-sex weddings/commitment ceremonies at their parks, resorts & on cruises.

I've just cancelled what was to be our 10th family vacation to Disneyworld.

The magic is gone...

Like I said earlier in this thread - if people boycott, so what? That just means less crowded parks for the rest of us!

 

[Rustysmom]

Like PP's said, cancelling your trip is your loss. Give me a break.

Rick, I loved your story and I hope you have a wonderful wedding.

 

[NYBlue1]

Is it just me or am I the only one that keeps hearing "Savoir faire is EVERYwhere!" bouncing around in my head?

 

[NYBlue1]

Uhhhh... seriously?!?!? I'm afraid to ask what magic might be gone... yikes. Did you think there were no gay people there and now that fantasy has been shattered? Wow.

[Sorry I broke my promise and posted again - my moratorium lasted all of 2hrs20min, but I couldn't ignore this. Wow.]

 

[2Princes2Princesses]

Rick- Congratulations to you! Have fun planning!!

As for the thread:
I have trouble understanding the problem with this. I mean, I have heard throughout numerous debates about same sex marriage that "the Bible says so!"

It also says not to judge others. That is God's job.

But in this context....one of the 10 Commandments involves coveting thy neighbor's wife. So I ask this: If Disney allowed the marriage of people who lived near each other, had an affair, divorced their respective spouses, and then were getting married, would you be up in arms about that? I am guessing probably not. I certainly do not see anyone in Congress trying to pass a "no marrying someone else's former spouse" law.

I am happy that Disney chose to treat everyone equally.

 

[CleveRocks]

The comedian turned football announcer turned conservative talking head Dennis Miller used to have a great line that seems fitting here ... of course I'll butcher it but I'll try it anyway.

I never understood why people hate other people due to their race or sexual orientation. If you really get to know them as people, as individuals, I'm sure you'll find plenty of legitimate reasons to truly hate them.

 

[CleveRocks]

Family values ...

... family values ...

If Disney really wanted to support family values, it should make its special wedding ceremonies off-limits to people who are divorced-with-children, and to couples who have out-of-wedlock children.

It seems to me that splitting up a child's home and/or bearing children out of wedlock are MUCH more destructive towards family values than just about anything else

 

[CleveRocks]

I almost forgot. This country was founded on Christian beliefs and the seperation of church and state that is thrown out there all the time was intended to keep the state from governing the church, not the other way around. It was never intended to keep prayer out of schools.

I mean no disrespect for your religious beliefs, but I question your knowledge of our nation's history.

There was no concern about the state running religion. The concern was that there be no state religion, meaning that they believed there must not be an "official" religion of the state that everyone must adopt.

The original "Pilgrims" weren't Anglicans who left England because they thought the state was interfering with Anglicanism. They were strict Calvinists who were basically persecuted by the state for worshipping God they way they saw fit, rather than the way the government condoned. They left rather than continue to be told by the state how they must worship God.

Our nation was founded on the ideal that everyone can love God the way they want to, which included not paying any attention to religion or God. Our great sages like Benjamin Franklin and Thomas Jefferson were God-fearing Christian men, but they were not interested in church-based organized religion. In England that would have meant they could never have risen to such a level of prominence, but in the nascent America they were free to believe as they wished.

Which is actually different than now. You have nothing to worry about Christianity, or at least the APPEARANCE of Christianity, ruling the roost in America. Seems you can't get elected President without photo opportunities of you walking out of church every Sunday morning.

 

[jessica52877]

No problems here! Glad to see someone recognize that families come in all shapes and sizes!

 

[eliza61]

Wow, this post has gotten pretty passionate! As a voting Disney stock holder folks, this one is about pure profit. Disney recognized a new market with a nice big wad of spendable income, they ran the numbers, factored in a the very small percentage of folks who might stay away because of this policy and intend to keep that profit margin nice and high, thank you very much.

 

[shmoogrrrl]

As far as Southern Baptist's go, they've been boycotting Disney for years as well as numerous other things. It hasn't made an impact and won't in the future. Being that Southern Baptist is the main denomination in my hometown (and region) I know for a fact that most members of the Southern Baptist Convention do attend Disney. They just don't let it be widely known in their church though almost all of them do go.

Actually, not to be technical but the Southern Baptist Convention lifted their boycott of Disney in June of 2005. That isn't to say that they aren't going to start a new boycott now, but currently those of us who are Southern Baptists can go to Disney freely without fear of hellfire and damnation. Not that it stopped us during the boycott....

 

[DawnM]

You know, that whole Disney boycott thing started while my husband worked for Disney (accounting dept. in Burbank). We are Christians, but I never understood the boycott thing.....Disney didn't create Gay Days and at the time, Disney was still allowing Christian nights at Disneyland with Christian musicians and such. Sadly, those nights were a big problem as the "Christian" teens misbehaved quite often.

Dawn

Actually, not to be technical but the Southern Baptist Convention lifted their boycott of Disney in June of 2005. That isn't to say that they aren't going to start a new boycott now, but currently those of us who are Southern Baptists can go to Disney freely without fear of hellfire and damnation. Not that it stopped us during the boycott....