Disney charges more for wine at the Grand Floridian then they do at other on property resorts.

[amberpi]

Around here, you can pay more for any given item based on the rent a store pays.

Certain stores, e.g., Banana Republic, have higher prices at the "fancy" mall with the high-end restaurants than they do at the regular mall. The rent is one factor, but also the people who shop at the fancy mall aren't exactly bargain hunters.

I'm really glad you said that. I thought I was crazy because the prices at the mall I frequent seem much higher than the online price for the same item. So I'm not crazy? (I mean, about this?)

 

[JerseyJanice]

I'm really glad you said that. I thought I was crazy because the prices at the mall I frequent seem much higher than the online price for the same item. So I'm not crazy? (I mean, about this?)

LOL! It wouldn't mean anything to you unless you live in New Jersey, but the stores in Riverside Square do not have the same sales and discounts as the stores in the Garden State Plaza. I've compared them on the same day.

 

[Polybound]

I don't quite consider the Flying Fish a dive.

It's not "price gouging". It's one of the first principles of economics which is "supply and demand". There is a demand so they supply it. If there weren't enough people that would buy it they would lower the price.

Stacy

Absolutely nothing to do with supply. They balance the demand with the price point. They'll price the wine at the maximum proffit and volume. obviously, they feel they can maximize their

It's not "price gouging". It's one of the first principles of economics which is "supply and demand". There is a demand so they supply it. If there weren't enough people that would buy it they would lower the price.

Stacy

Sorry, but supply has nothing to do with it in this case. It's nothing but demand, price-point and maximizing profit. Obviously Disney feels that they can have a higher price-point at the GF.

 

[Westcoastwild]

There is no "restaurant standard" pour for wine. A standard pour takes into account the size of the glass, the %alcohol/volume of the particular wine (or style of wine), the strength of the wine (or style of wine) flavor, as well as the economy of pricing decided by a restaurant's management. Setting your standard pour for a particular wine (usually between 4 and 6oz is the difference between getting 6 to 4 glasses of wine from each bottle.

There is nothing "sloppy" about it. Between my wife and I, we had 6 glasses of red poured at California Grill with remarkable precision, and all of them a full ounce or better more than at Artist Point. I don't recall the pricing for each of the restaurants on this trip but if I had paid more for a glass at CG than I did at AP I would not have been surprised at all.

The only way to determine if a restaurant is "gouging" is to compare bottle prices.

5 oz has been what we were supposed to pour at every restaurant I've worked at. I understand that some places go with 4 or 6 oz. but I still think 5 is generally the standard. Place that charges more for a glass of wine than their competitor down the street charges for the exact same wine is not necessarily giving you more wine. Every restaurant has different glasses, which means that you still have people saying that the bartender didn't pour 5 oz based on how full the glass looks. I've also been at a bar where the bartender offers me a free top off because he's finishing off the bottle, so that happens too.

But unless FF and GF are using the exact same glasses, and you could take a glass from each place and set them next to each other, I'm more inclined to believe the OP on the fact that GF charged more for the same kind and same serving of wine. Different places certainly do charge different prices for the same wine. They base their prices on what they think the customer will buy without flinching, and I would say certainly that GF has customers with deeper pockets than FF. Their cocktail list is priced differently as well. It's on the high end while FF is priced towards the lower end. I love cocktails and GF's cocktails aren't more expensive because of quality or amount of booze- they're more expensive because they're in the lounge of one of the priciest hotels on Disney property.

 

[Polybound]

Both are signature dining, would have thought they would be the same. I guess everything is pricier at the gf

My point exactly, actually I believe that the FF is a little bit nicer. Prices are pretty comparable. Disney can gouge, because they know they can at the GF..

 

[Dis_Yoda]

Flying Fish isn't a third party - it's owned and operated by Disney

 

[ShellieMimi]

Absolutely nothing to do with supply. They balance the demand with the price point. They'll price the wine at the maximum proffit and volume. obviously, they feel they can maximize their


Sorry, but supply has nothing to do with it in this case. It's nothing but demand, price-point and maximizing profit. Obviously Disney feels that they can have a higher price-point at the GF.

That doesn't make it price gouging, as you claimed. Price gouging would be Disney normally selling bottled water for $3, then charging $10 per bottle when a hurricane hit and guests were trapped on property.

I think you were trying to make "they charged me more for my wine and I didn't like it" sound more intelligent but you don't seem to understand what the term actually means.

 

[Allison]

That doesn't make it price gouging, as you claimed. Price gouging would be Disney normally selling bottled water for $3, then charging $10 per bottle when a hurricane hit and guests were trapped on property.

I agree. The term price gouging doesn't go with the word wine and dining at a Disney signature restaurant.

 

[Micca]

If you wanna talk gouging compare WDW beer prices to the real world. One WDW beer is in the neighborhood of a six pack of the same stuff.

 

[DWillowBay]

You would pay different prices if you went from one fine dining restaurant to another in your hometown!! Why does the fact that it's at WDW set the expectation that all things are equal at equal levels of dining? You set yourself up for disappointment or frustration with thoughts like that.

 

[cobright]

5 oz has been what we were supposed to pour at every restaurant I've worked at. I understand that some places go with 4 or 6 oz. but I still think 5 is generally the standard. Place that charges more for a glass of wine than their competitor down the street charges for the exact same wine is not necessarily giving you more wine. Every restaurant has different glasses, which means that you still have people saying that the bartender didn't pour 5 oz based on how full the glass looks. I've also been at a bar where the bartender offers me a free top off because he's finishing off the bottle, so that happens too..

Some of the nicer places we eat at will intentionally set their pour a little meagre because diners are more likely to order multiple glasses. This isn't always a 'stick it to ya' tactic. If I'm having a glass of white with a fish course, a light red (perhaps a macon villages) with the entree, followed by a rich merlot with the beef, then wrapping it all up with a short sherry over the cheese or sweets and each pour is 5-6oz ... well I'll be fine, but some of the people dining with me will not be fully enjoying their later courses. There are some Signature dining at Disney that I feel haul closer along this line than others. And before I chaulk a difference in wine price, per glass, entirely to profiteering I would have to be shown that the quantities for each differing price were indeed identical. My experience is that the pours within each restaurant are amazingly consistent, yet from one restaurant to another they vary a good deal. This isn't based on how tall the pour is in the glass or anything other than my own, self-professed, credentials in estimating volume. Take the words of a stranger on the internet for what their worth, but until you've taken a graduated cylinder to a few restaurants there at least concede the possibility.

Again, the only way to truly determine how much of the price difference per glass is gouging is to look at what is charged at each restaurant for a bottle. A bottle is, presumably, of identical volume from one restaurant to the next. Can we get the OP to give us the name of this special wine? And then maybe get someone to find us the bottle prices at FF vs Citricos?

As for topping off ones glass, I haven't seen that myself. Plenty of cocktails and beers left off the bill, but I'm not usually drinking wine in front of a bartender. I actually don't like many wines outside of a food pairing (in which case I find them integral). Bar service (IMO) is one of the weirdest conjunctions of personality and economics.

 

[Polybound]

You would pay different prices if you went from one fine dining restaurant to another in your hometown!! Why does the fact that it's at WDW set the expectation that all things are equal at equal levels of dining? You set yourself up for disappointment or frustration with thoughts like that.

Apples and Oranges. For one, fine dining restaurants in our home town typically have different owners. For the most part, with maybe an exception or two, the Signature Dining restaurants located at Disney Resorts and the Parks have one owner, Disney and Disney's cost per glass at these is relatively the same.