Disney and dying.

[deegack]

I can see you like to argue but I would like to believe that if someone near and dear to your heart asked you to spread their ashes somewhere at Disney you wouldnt tell them no.

well my family have absolutely no interest in spreading our ashes at Disney and they wouldn't ask someone to knowingly violate the law to spread ashes. They're dead. Honestly, where their remains are really doesn't matter.

 

[deegack]

Ashes... a biohazard? Only if you're snorting them, friend. It's just carbon with a dash of trace minerals. It's definitely, decidedly, deceasedly sterile at that point. Sheesh.

Well the government classifies them as bioharzard and regulate their disposal so I'll go with that.

 

[MistressMerryweather]

Ashes... a biohazard? Only if you're snorting them, friend. It's just carbon with a dash of trace minerals. It's definitely, decidedly, deceasedly sterile at that point. Sheesh.

well my family have absolutely no interest in spreading our ashes at Disney and they wouldn't ask someone to knowingly violate the law to spread ashes. They're dead. Honestly, where their remains are really doesn't matter.

Well, it matters for the living.
My brother died suddenly and unexpectedly at 32 in his sleep, 6 weeks ago this past Sunday. He left behind a loving wife and 4 small children,8 and under, and a teenager...
and if he had asked that his ashes be scattered in Disney World, which he didn't, you can be darn sure I would move mountains to do it.
And I'm a 99.999999999999999999% law abiding citizen.

 

[canopynut66]

How would WDW even know one sprinkled ashes anywhere? if they went in water they would sink so would not find there. If they were on the resort grounds the wind would blow them away so would not find them there. If on main street thousands would walk across them so would not find them there. So my point is WDW has many other things to do than look for creamated remains sprinkled on the grounds anywhere in four parks....IMO is terrribly sad that some want to upset some people over this issue.

 

[mad madam mim78]

well my family have absolutely no interest in spreading our ashes at Disney and they wouldn't ask someone to knowingly violate the law to spread ashes. They're dead. Honestly, where their remains are really doesn't matter.

So if your children asked? Still no?

 

[canopynut66]

How is WDW even going to check four parks for any cremated ashes? Why would they even want to? If they are spread into water they will sink. If spread on the resort grounds will blow away eventually if not the same day. If on main street will be thousands walk across them so they will be gone forever in a very short time. WDW has many other things to attend to besides looking for creamated ashes of anyone. And how would they know cigarette ash from a cremated ash? IMO is terribly sad some would even say these things. all bodies creamated or buried disolve back into dust and into the earth and into our water systems regardless of where they spread or buried.

 

[Erin1700]

Forgive me but I have never seen human ashes, could you tell by looking at them that they are someone's ashes? Unless you dumped a whole pile, how would Disney know?

I would ask that a pinch of mine be left on the pirates ride. But I don't plan to be cremated.

 

[deegack]

Human ashes are not like cigarette ashes. They contain pieces of bone and other material that do not completely burn up. Hence the biohazard. If the aah blows some one could inhale it and it can cause issues fir that person. If my child asked to be spread at Disney I would contact them and arrange to do it legally. In a manner permitted by law.
I guess if people don't mind ashes on main street then they shouldn't mind people urinating on main street. I mean after a few hundred people walk in it who cares. Or changing dirty diapers on a bench. Same thing.
Disney is not a religious institution its a theme park . A fun one but not a place designed for the disposal of human remains and nor should it. Spin it however you want it is illegal. Period end of discussion. If i saw some dump ashes I would alert the nearest cm and point out the person. Whether it on main street or in a ride.

I'm done with this discussion. Obviously people are determined to break the law for their own self fish reasons.

 

[Schmeck]

Do you let your kids swim in a pool? You are aware that a pool is nothing more than a toilet/bath tub right?

You put chlorine in your toilet and bathtub?

 

[Schmeck]

How is WDW even going to check four parks for any cremated ashes? Why would they even want to? If they are spread into water they will sink. If spread on the resort grounds will blow away eventually if not the same day. If on main street will be thousands walk across them so they will be gone forever in a very short time. WDW has many other things to attend to besides looking for creamated ashes of anyone. And how would they know cigarette ash from a cremated ash? IMO is terribly sad some would even say these things. all bodies creamated or buried disolve back into dust and into the earth and into our water systems regardless of where they spread or buried.

So, because no one checks, or can't check, or some other excuse, it's OK to break the law, it's just a little bit, etc? Where is the line drawn for you?

 

[AntePrincess]

Human ashes are not like cigarette ashes. They contain pieces of bone and other material that do not completely burn up. Hence the biohazard. If the aah blows some one could inhale it and it can cause issues fir that person. If my child asked to be spread at Disney I would contact them and arrange to do it legally. In a manner permitted by law.

LOL, I'm sorry, I can't get over this part, the law breaking one I agree with you on. Cigarette ashes are more toxic to humans than human ash. The bits of bones ARE completely burned, they are in chunks the same way that wood sometimes remains in chunks when burned (and then they throw it throw a blender).

You would not know the difference between a pile of human ash and the ash out of the bottom of a charcoal grill. Minus the bits of charcoal (I hope).

 

[Tinkerpeas hubby]

So, because no one checks, or can't check, or some other excuse, it's OK to break the law, it's just a little bit, etc? Where is the line drawn for you?

No line to be drawn if it's someone's last wish.

Would you not do it for your child or significant other?

 

[iluveeyore]

I just want to say to the OP that my prayers are with you, and I want nothing more than for you to be able to enjoy that next trip in the land of the living smiling as your children have a wonderful trip!

As for everyone else, I have joked many times about having my ashes spread on the ground beside the view from my favorite resort. I know it won't happen, not even sure how they would get my ashes through security at the airport....doesn't matter. I will be with them in spirit through every visit to my happy place if I'm not with them. Where my remains are makes no difference. An urn shaped like the castle would be awesome though, so I can be at home in my happy place forever!

And OP, I love the balloon release idea, and when you recover from your operation, you should release one balloon yourself from your favourite spot at WDW to give thanks for being able to be there! Happy, positive thoughts!

 

[AntePrincess]

No line to be drawn if it's someone's last wish.

Would you not do it for your child or significant other?

I want you and your wife for my best friend! I can have my ashes mailed to you, right? There's this pub in Taunton...

As for everyone else, I have joked many times about having my ashes spread on the ground beside the view from my favorite resort. I know it won't happen, not even sure how they would get my ashes through security at the airport....doesn't matter. I will be with them in spirit through every visit to my happy place if I'm not with them. Where my remains are makes no difference. An urn shaped like the castle would be awesome though, so I can be at home in my happy place forever!

I do like the compromise idea of putting yourself in a castle shaped urn, or incorporating Disney elements in a personalized memorial service. In my case I have a sneaking suspicion I'm going to end up in a porcelain tea canister... They're just so much cheaper than traditional urns. Maybe I should have a Mad Hatter's Tea Party themed wake, it would be so appropriate. Or maybe I'll have my ashes mixed with some cement to make a cast statue! Or we can DYE my ashes and my husband's ashes different colors and our daughters can use them for a wedding sand ceremony...

And OP, I love the balloon release idea, and when you recover from your operation, you should release one balloon yourself from your favourite spot at WDW to give thanks for being able to be there! Happy, positive thoughts!

I agree, I think the balloon release is a winner.

 

[Tigger1]

Ashes = Pixie Dust

 

[Tinkerpeas hubby]

I just want to say to the OP that my prayers are with you, and I want nothing more than for you to be able to enjoy that next trip in the land of the living smiling as your children have a wonderful trip!

As for everyone else, I have joked many times about having my ashes spread on the ground beside the view from my favorite resort. I know it won't happen, not even sure how they would get my ashes through security at the airport....doesn't matter. I will be with them in spirit through every visit to my happy place if I'm not with them. Where my remains are makes no difference. An urn shaped like the castle would be awesome though, so I can be at home in my happy place forever!

And OP, I love the balloon release idea, and when you recover from your operation, you should release one balloon yourself from your favourite spot at WDW to give thanks for being able to be there! Happy, positive thoughts!

Thank you very much for your support, I've seen more support from what start as complete strangers on here than our friends from other parts of the UK.

Ante Aww thank you, my wife says she has found many good friends on the DIS boards.

 

[deegack]

No line to be drawn if it's someone's last wish.

Would you not do it for your child or significant other?

Of course there is a line. What is legal vs what is illegal. I dot understand why that is so difficult for people to understand

 

[deegack]

LOL, I'm sorry, I can't get over this part, the law breaking one I agree with you on. Cigarette ashes are more toxic to humans than human ash. The bits of bones ARE completely burned, they are in chunks the same way that wood sometimes remains in chunks when burned (and then they throw it throw a blender).

You would not know the difference between a pile of human ash and the ash out of the bottom of a charcoal grill. Minus the bits of charcoal (I hope).

If I want to avoid cigarette ashes I avoid the designated smoking areas. There are no designated areas for the illegal dumping of burned human remains. I wonder why that is, oh yeah it is illegal.

 

[AntePrincess]

If I want to avoid cigarette ashes I avoid the designated smoking areas. There are no designated areas for the illegal dumping of burned human remains. I wonder why that is, oh yeah it is illegal.

You are so het up about this and as far as I can tell... no one's doing it, they're pointing out that ashes are pretty harmless. How many times have you flounced from this thread and come back again?

(And I still agree with you that it's illegal and I wouldn't do it, that seems to have gotten lost in the drama.)

 

[Tinkerpeas hubby]

Of course there is a line. What is legal vs what is illegal. I dot understand why that is so difficult for people to understand

You mean to tell me that if you lost your most nearest and dearest, their final wish ment you would have to break a law. Let's use some common sense here, were not exactly talking breaking a law that would result in harm to others, damage to property. A law that can and by the sounds of it has been over looked.

I'm sure that if I was to ask Disney if I could sprinkle the ashes of a lost one in flower beds near Cinderella's castle. I could ask Disney to make some allowance, such as i'm permitted to hold a personal ceremony when the park has been cleared of guests, or before the park opens to the public.
They could kindly had a gardener part the soil so that the ashes once spread can be incorporated in with the soil so that they don't disperse else where.

I'm starting to notice a can't do attitude with you, time for a new outlook