Disappointed in seven dwarfs mine ride!

As far as the "thrill" factor, and the swaying of the cars, like most coasters, you can feel the intensity more in the back, and less in the front. We enjoyed our rides on 7DMT, and I am a thrill junky. Still love Everest the most, but Mine train will be ridden every trip!
 
I don't care so much that it is a tame coaster, that is fine, I just wish Disney had gone all out with it like they used to. If it is a mine train why isn't it talking place entirely in a mine? why the outside parts? Wheres the feel of descending below the ground as you start? where's the scent of being in a mine and the temperature change as you go lower? Setting the stage putting you into the story line as Disney used to do. If it's set in a mine, it should be in a mine! That's my complaint with it.


(I haven't ridden it but based on watching videos and reading accounts)
 
I think once again Disney took the cheap and easy way out. Stay in the same mold, don't try anything new. Do as little as possible.

I miss when Disney stretched themselves and did new and innovative things with engineering and themeing. Now all the management is afraid to think outside the box at all , they play it safe in everything.

I don't get the whole Disney took the the cheap and easy way out. They used Vekoma who is argueably the best coaster designers in the world and had them create a completely new ride system. Throw on top of that the detailed theming of the attraction and I bet this cost way more than the rides that are being put out now a days.
 
I don't care so much that it is a tame coaster, that is fine, I just wish Disney had gone all out with it like they used to. If it is a mine train why isn't it talking place entirely in a mine? why the outside parts? Wheres the feel of descending below the ground as you start? where's the scent of being in a mine and the temperature change as you go lower? Setting the stage putting you into the story line as Disney used to do. If it's set in a mine, it should be in a mine! That's my complaint with it.


(I haven't ridden it but based on watching videos and reading accounts)

I get being disappointed in it because it isn't what you expected it to be. That doesn't make it a bad ride.

Of course I haven't ridden it yet so I'll see what I think of it when I do. from reading here I see the person I quoted hasn't ridden it either.
 

Disney really has a hard time making everyone happy. For some, 7dmt is too thrilling, and for some, it is not thrilling enough. I think that is why people want more thrills in the parks, though. A lot of families have a wide range of ages, and a wide range of thrill seekers. For every 12 year old that finds BTMRR too fast and scary, there is a 3 year old like mine who just finally went on it as well as Splash Mt and ToT, and can't stop asking to go back to go on them again. There needs to be a mix, because the parks are built for the whole family in mind.

Now, Fantasy Land is probably not the place for a thrill ride. It is very hard to tell a small child that what they see is too big for them to go on. Out of site, out of mind. We had not even taken our son in the area where BTMRR and Spalsh are until he was tall enough to ride. Not so easy at Blizzard Beach where you have to calm a 3 year old down because he's just not tall enough to go on Summit Plummet, no matter how hard he strains to make himself taller.
 
When I rode Mine Train for the first time, I thought, "That's it?" Then I remembered, "Wait, this replaced Snow White's Scary Adventure," and all was right in the world again. I find it to be a massive upgrade over that old thing.
 
BrianL said:
Right, and my point is that if Matterhorn is not a "Kiddie Coaster" (which it is not), then neither is 7DMT, though neither of them are very intense.

Some people are holding up Matterhorn as an example of a thrilling Fantasyland ride, and have used the height restriction to back up their assertion that it is thrilling, but it's still a very family friendly ride and not that intense, nor should it be.

I don't know who you are referring to, but.no one ever said it was a thrill ride in the vein of TOT or RNR. I thought that was pretty clear. No one ever said it wasn't family friendly. Just that the presence of matterhorn in fantasyland should demonstrate that its ok to have a full coaster in FL.
 
Some people are holding up Matterhorn as an example of a thrilling Fantasyland ride, and have used the height restriction to back up their assertion that it is thrilling, but it's still a very family friendly ride and not that intense, nor should it be.

There isn't a hard a fast rule about height restrictions but I think they do provide a good basis for comparison between similar types of rides. Like I said I've never heard the Matterhorn called a "kiddie coaster," whereas many people who have ridden 7DMT have labeled it just that.
 
The only hyping by Disney, IMO, is the exaggeration of the speed of the train in the commercials. Youtube videos posted here and in other places show the speed much more accurately. Just typical Disney marketing, like that billboard on World Drive showing the Tower of Terror elevator plummeting at an acute angle.

I'm not sure how some people got the impression that this would be a thrill ride. It appears to be exactly what was announced: a family ride that would be thrilling for the pre-school to lower elementary school crowd, but enjoyable enough for all ages.

As for the swinging cars, I've never been very impressed by any suspended coaster. Fun, yes, but no WOW factor.

Jim
 
Now, Fantasy Land is probably not the place for a thrill ride. It is very hard to tell a small child that what they see is too big for them to go on. Out of site, out of mind.

I wasn't expecting much "thrilling" from 7DMT since it was built in Fantasy Land. Honestly, I can't see Disney building a new "thrill" ride in MK at this point. I think they're trying to keep that park geared towards the younger crowds. HS and Epcot could use a thrill ride since I tend to think of those to be geared more for the older kids (6+). My 7 year old niece is phasing out of the princess stage and is starting to become more interested in ToT, RnR, Everest, etc. I think I may have to take her to the dark side (aka Universal) for a day or two :rolleyes1
 
Honestly, it is what it is. No matter how much we say oh they could of done this , its never going to change. I'm disappointed; it seems some of the AAs already are going down but I haven't rode it yet. I can't talk about thrills or how fast or if i can feel the swaying but could it have been done better?? Yes. As one poster said they could incorporated so much more sensory elements into the ride like smell when you are in the mine along with cooling temperatures.

No one can say this project wasn't rushed :smokin:, however within the time given a lot of stuff could of been done to make this ride unforgettable, amazing, and more unique than swinging cars.
 
We were there last week and my family loved it. We rode it 4 times. I am sure everyone has a different experience but we found most people around us that rode it talking about how much they liked it. I found it to be a little bit of a thrill, just perfect for kids ready for something a little more than the Fantasy land Dark Rides (or grown ups who like a little excitement but not the big coasters). Of course Big Thunder Mountain is a thrill ride to us. I thought the theming inside the mine was beautiful and I loved the tribute the Snow White's Scary Adventures at the end. It is such a smooth coaster. If you are scared of the drops and speed ride in the front and if you want as big a thrill as possible try for the very back. We rode both during the week and I preferred the back. It would have been nice to be a little longer or more thrilling but it was what I expected and we loved it for that. My disappointment was in how long it took to build it. Also, they may just not have their times down yet but we rode stand by once because we wanted to ride it at night. The posted time was 90 minutes we were just a little ways inside the que and our wait was only 45 minutes so I think that would be a good gauge of time. It is worth riding stand by once to see the interactive que.
 
Fine, basing an entire ad campaign isn't hyping? ( def: promote or publicize (a product or idea) intensively, ) Having the whole commercial about just it? isn't hyping that one ride. They didn't add it to a commercial about the new fantasy land, they did the whole commercial about it. Don't remember seeing any commercials only about the new Journey of the little mermaid. also people are saying the sped it up in the commercial, don't know if this is true or not.

Whether it is deserving of the hype or not, it can't be said that Disney isn't promoting it heavily and that is hyping something. That is all people including myself are saying. This ride has been promoted heavily by Disney as the big deal thing in the NFL.

Not only that, but the ride is CLEARLY sped up in the video, and not enough to make the average Joe KNOW it's sped up.

I recall, many moons ago, as a youngster in Southern Indiana, seeing the commercial for Vortex at King's Island. It looked insane. After visiting, while the coaster was quite good, I realized the video had been sped up substantially in the commercial.

-Jason
 
I wasn't aware that the height restriction was the only indicator of thrill level. If that's the case I wanna see how intense they can make a coaster that only people who are 6 ft plus can ride!

Really, doesn't the height restriction take into account a lot of things, including ride vehicle design, restraint system, etc.? I don't see the height in inches to be the ultimate espression of thrill level.

You are too late, the Texas Cyclone at Astroworld is gone. Along with it's 60" height requirement for the back rows. Only 5 feet, but the highest requirement I've ever seen.

-Jason
 
I still don't understand why some were expecting a thrill ride in the Fantasyland section of Magic Kingdom. To be another ride that kids can't go on? At the most kid-friendly park in the country? :confused3

edited to add: but I do agree with the OP, it was hyped up a lot on these boards. I personally don't think it's a bad thing, but I can see how others might find it annoying.
 
I don't get the whole Disney took the the cheap and easy way out. They used Vekoma who is argueably the best coaster designers in the world and had them create a completely new ride system. Throw on top of that the detailed theming of the attraction and I bet this cost way more than the rides that are being put out now a days.

NO one argues that Vekoma is the best coaster designer in the world. Most prolific, perhaps, due to the hundreds of clones of roller skaters and boomerangs throughout the world.

RnRC starts to show how Vekoma is far from the best, especially when loops are involved.

-Jason
 
I thought it was a nice ride. It was smooth as silk which was quite "new and fresh" since I've never ridden a coaster that didn't jar my brain. The animatronics were well placed and just precious. The attention to detail is outstanding. I mean the queue with all it's "woodwork". Look at it! Everyone is dogging the ride but the people who designed it had family and quality in mind along with maintaining the integrity and classicness of the movie. <----(I vote classicness be made into a real word.) The ride might not have been RnR but it was so....beautiful.

I'm so glad they made this ride. The only thing I would change is the end scene was very hard to see on a sunny day. Maybe they'll put up an awning or something. I can't wait to ride it at night.
 
I'm so glad they made this ride. The only thing I would change is the end scene was very hard to see on a sunny day. Maybe they'll put up an awning or something. I can't wait to ride it at night.


I agree with that it was very hard to see in the daytime. It was beautiful at night.
 
For the amount of time it took to build, my absolute baseline expectation would be that the figures in the two scenes would match - and they don't. I'm not saying older is always better; there's a lot of newer stuff in the parks that beats the pants off older stuff. But give Claude Coats a couple of scrims and a case of paint and he would art direct your butt straight into another world. Where is this generation's Claude Coats when you need him?
 





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