Disappointed in seven dwarfs mine ride!

[mesaboy2]

Regardless of whether or not you personally think it is thrilling, it is an objective fact that Matterhorn has a greater height restriction than BTMRR or Gringott's, and refutes any notion that a thrill ride cannot be placed in Fantasyland.

The relative connection between height restriction and thrill is a bogus one. See Tomorrowland Speedway or Stitch's Great Escape. It has to do with the ride vehicle more than anything else.

When I first saw the images of the cars I wondered if you would be able to feel them swing at all (other than when you really wish they didn't, like when boarding them).

Most roller coasters with swinging cars are designed with the hinge point at the track, but this one is done to ascetically resemble a mine train by being much higher. With the hinge point so far above the track, any point where the car might swing from the momentum would lend to the car being unstable. I would expect the track to be banked to provide stability and dampen any swinging you would sense on the ride. I've been guessing that the only time you really feel these swing is when the guests try to swing them during slow parts of the ride. Is that how it is, or is there an aspect to it I'm not seeing on the pictures and videos?

I didn't feel them swing much at all, except for maybe the second coaster portion just before the final brakes. That section seems to be designed to curve quickly and induce the swing--but again, even there I didn't feel it that much.

It didn't even occur to me to try to swing the car during the slow parts. Goal for next time!

 

[sheetz]

The relative connection between height restriction and thrill is a bogus one. See Tomorrowland Speedway or Stitch's Great Escape. It has to do with the ride vehicle more than anything else.

I realize there are other reasons for height restrictions, but in the case of Matterhorn I think it really is at least as thrilling than BTMRR.

 

[mesaboy2]

I realize there are other reasons for height restrictions, but in the case of Matterhorn I think it really is at least as thrilling than BTMRR.

I will compare the two later this week!

 

[Minnesota!]

I think once again Disney took the cheap and easy way out. Stay in the same mold, don't try anything new. Do as little as possible.

I miss when Disney stretched themselves and did new and innovative things with engineering and themeing. Now all the management is afraid to think outside the box at all , they play it safe in everything.

Disney lacks the creativity and inventiveness they once held sacred. Everything is a copy of something currently existing. The "new technology" of swinging seats is so...boring. I don't expect a thrill ride, but when you spend that much money, and take that much time...it better feel new and fresh.

Yawn. This is why Universal will be getting $$$ from us, for the first time ever, next August.

 

[Hannathy]

Apparently there is no difference between advertising and hyping in your world.

Duh, they're going to advertise it with commercials. I don't recall anything in those commercials claiming it was more than it was--that would be hyping. In those commercials, please give me an example of hype. (After you come up with another ride vehicle like this, of course.)

Pretty much all the hype has come from fan sites like this.

Fine, basing an entire ad campaign isn't hyping? ( def: promote or publicize (a product or idea) intensively, ) Having the whole commercial about just it? isn't hyping that one ride. They didn't add it to a commercial about the new fantasy land, they did the whole commercial about it. Don't remember seeing any commercials only about the new Journey of the little mermaid. also people are saying the sped it up in the commercial, don't know if this is true or not.

Whether it is deserving of the hype or not, it can't be said that Disney isn't promoting it heavily and that is hyping something. That is all people including myself are saying. This ride has been promoted heavily by Disney as the big deal thing in the NFL.

 

[mesaboy2]

Disney lacks the creativity and inventiveness they once held sacred. Everything is a copy of something currently existing. The "new technology" of swinging seats is so...boring. I don't expect a thrill ride, but when you spend that much money, and take that much time...it better feel new and fresh.

Yawn. This is why Universal will be getting $$$ from us, for the first time ever, next August.

When I rode it, it felt new and fresh. You were bored when you rode it?

 

[mesaboy2]

Fine, basing an entire ad campaign isn't hyping? ( def: promote or publicize (a product or idea) intensively, ) Having the whole commercial about just it? isn't hyping that one ride. They didn't add it to a commercial about the new fantasy land, they did the whole commercial about it. Don't remember seeing any commercials only about the new Journey of the little mermaid. also people are saying the sped it up in the commercial, don't know if this is true or not.

Whether it is deserving of the hype or not, it can't be said that Disney isn't promoting it heavily and that is hyping something. That is all people including myself are saying. This ride has been promoted heavily by Disney as the big deal thing in the NFL.

Not surprisingly, I guess we will disagree. The commercials I've seen (in the FL area) do not "hype" it--I barely recall seeing the ride in most of them at all. I haven't seen the 7DMT-dedicated commercial since Friday, but will keep a lookout for it and compare its message with what I experienced. Maybe I'll see your point then.

 

[Hannathy]

Not surprisingly, I guess we will disagree. The commercials I've seen (in the FL area) do not "hype" it--I barely recall seeing the ride in most of them at all. I haven't seen the 7DMT-dedicated commercial since Friday, but will keep a lookout for it and compare its message with what I experienced. Maybe I'll see your point then.

I don't live in Florida , in the Midwest, and that commercial was on at least 4 times yesterday. The one with the family and all they show is that ride. It is the only Disney commercial I have seen. (lately)

 

[mesaboy2]

I don't live in Florida , in the Midwest, and that commercial was on at least 4 times yesterday. The one with the family and all they show is that ride. It is the only Disney commercial I have seen. (lately)

I believe you. I don't know that repeating the same commercial a lot is hyping so much as simple carpet-bomb advertising. I see more HP commercials than I do 7DMTs, and that's with the TV tuned to Disney Channel probably half the time. I'll be interested to see it again after having ridden it and see if I can spot the hype.

 

[amg35]

I also live in the Midwest and the only ones I see are the ones about staying at a Disney resort, with the monorail going into CR.

I have seen the SDMT one, but not very often - thank god, it's so cheesey!
But even in that one, they certainly aren't pretending it's some fantastic thrill ride that will scare the pants off you! They say "it rocks" to tie in with rock your Disney side and the fact that the cars sway. They do speed up the train though a little it looks like. And it shows a family riding a family ride.

And no one I know who doesn't frequent boards like this even knew about the ride until they saw the commercial.

Sorry, don't think Disney made this huge build up, we did.

 

[BrianL]

Regardless of whether or not you personally think it is thrilling, it is an objective fact that Matterhorn has a greater height restriction than BTMRR or Gringott's, and refutes any notion that a thrill ride cannot be placed in Fantasyland.

I wasn't aware that the height restriction was the only indicator of thrill level. If that's the case I wanna see how intense they can make a coaster that only people who are 6 ft plus can ride!

Really, doesn't the height restriction take into account a lot of things, including ride vehicle design, restraint system, etc.? I don't see the height in inches to be the ultimate espression of thrill level.

 

[sheetz]

Really, doesn't the height restriction take into account a lot of things, including ride vehicle design, restraint system, etc.? I don't see the height in inches to be the ultimate espression of thrill level.

Like I said above I realize there are different reasons for height restrictions. But if we look at the ride vehicles for Matterhorn and the type of ride it is and compare it to similar rides I don't see how it could not be labeled a thrill ride.

 

[Angel Ariel]

I wasn't aware that the height restriction was the only indicator of thrill level. If that's the case I wanna see how intense they can make a coaster that only people who are 6 ft plus can ride!

Really, doesn't the height restriction take into account a lot of things, including ride vehicle design, restraint system, etc.? I don't see the height in inches to be the ultimate espression of thrill level.

No one is saying matterhorn is TOT or RNR. Just that it is on par with BTMRR, which negates the whole "can't put a non-kiddie coaster in fantasyland" idea.

 

[BrianL]

Like I said above I realize there are different reasons for height restrictions. But if we look at the ride vehicles for Matterhorn and the type of ride it is and compare it to similar rides I don't see how it could not be labeled a thrill ride.

Oh, I totally consider the Matterhorn a thrill ride, just a pretty tame one. I think what we're saying is that if Materhorn is a "thrill ride" then 7DMT is too, even if it is also less intense. Matterhorn being 40in doesn't automatically make it "better" not that more thrilling always equals better, though it seems to for some.

 

[BrianL]

No one is saying matterhorn is TOT or RNR. Just that it is on par with BTMRR, which negates the whole "can't put a non-kiddie coaster in fantasyland" idea.

I dunno...Materhorn is certainly less intense than BTMRR, though I don't really think of any of the MK/DL coasters as bing very intense. Maybe they're not "kiddie-coasters" but Family Friendly for sure, and I like 'em that way just fine. I don't think 7DMT is a "Kiddie Coaster" either, though I have yet to ride it.

 

[LSUfan4444]

I wasn't aware that the height restriction was the only indicator of thrill level. If that's the case I wanna see how intense they can make a coaster that only people who are 6 ft plus can ride!

To your point...everest and tower of terror have a shorter height restriction than primevil whirl.

 

[DisneyBliss7]

Jealous of everyone who has already been on it I can't wait for our turn!!! I was under the assumption it's an ''in between coaster'',,,like Thunder Mountain. A great family thrill ride

 

[DisUniversal]

To each their own, but

Sorry, reports from runners at WDW and the Uni people we know that just went are that it is a amazing attraction..........Maybe the Uni CM you spoke with, like TV screens more that real state of the art Imagineering.

Cannot wait until Octobe1

AKK

It's fun and fits well in Fantasyland. Nobody should really expect anything there that a family can't enjoy. That said, I can't imagine anyone (except perphaps for younger children) describing it as "amazing". There's really nothing amazing, groundbreaking or innovative about it. It's a fairly stock "family coaster", the swaying of the cars is nearly imperceptible, the short section in the middle with animatronics lasts under a minute and is nothing new aside from projected facial features on some characters and the end part with the dwarfs dancing with Snow White is in my opinion, a waste of effort. They could have done so much better with the ending.

Like I said though, it is fun, brings a smile to your face when you ride it and is a very nice addition to Fantasyland. Much better than Little Mermaid which is about as disappointing an attraction as one could imagine...other than perhaps the addition of a 3rd Dumbo.

 

[sheetz]

Oh, I totally consider the Matterhorn a thrill ride, just a pretty tame one. I think what we're saying is that if Materhorn is a "thrill ride" then 7DMT is too, even if it is also less intense. Matterhorn being 40in doesn't automatically make it "better" not that more thrilling always equals better, though it seems to for some.

Since nobody ever said Matterhorn was a better coaster because of its height limit I'm not even sure what your point is.

What I and others have been saying is that there's no reason why any Fantasyland coaster has to be a kiddie coaster. The Matterhorn may not be the most thrilling coaster in the world but I have never heard it called a kiddie coaster.

 

[BrianL]

Since nobody ever said Matterhorn was a better coaster because of its height limit I'm not even sure what your point is.

What I and others have been saying is that there's no reason why any Fantasyland coaster has to be a kiddie coaster. The Matterhorn may not be the most thrilling coaster in the world but I have never heard it called a kiddie coaster.

Right, and my point is that if Matterhorn is not a "Kiddie Coaster" (which it is not), then neither is 7DMT, though neither of them are very intense.

Some people are holding up Matterhorn as an example of a thrilling Fantasyland ride, and have used the height restriction to back up their assertion that it is thrilling, but it's still a very family friendly ride and not that intense, nor should it be.