Death at CR 06/05

[tone.def]

I must disagree with the posters who said that a suicide is not news (or national news). Having worked as both a cameraman and occassional reporter/writer for MANY years at a 24 hour cable news station, I will tell you that not only is a suicide news, it is ESPECIALLY news when it happens at a place like Disneyworld. I am surprised it wasn't covered further even with Disney's well known story squashing ability. The fact that it happened on a weekend and in the middle of the night is likely why it was so easily hushed.QUOTE]

I work as a news editor at a 24 hour national television news service. We never broadcast suicides - doesn't matter where/when. There's a jumper weekly in the Toronto subway system - it's not even in the paper anymore.

 

[Ducky4Disney]

So sorry you had to experience that, but if you witnessed it, then what are you looking for here? You just want to see it confirmed? If I had seen that I would never want to hear of it again, let alone have people around the country hear of it.

I can also understand why other posters doubted you. First post for this name, but you've posted lots of other times under another name, and don't know about the community board? It seemed odd.

D4D

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

Not too long ago one of Disney's resort buses burned to the ground on World Drive ( least I think it was WD ). It never made national news.

A cruise ship bus burned to a crisp on 528 and it was all over the local news. It only makes national headlines if people would have died. Noone did, they were transported to the cruise in time and all their luggage had been transported separately--so not one single person lost so much as a swim suit.

 

[VowRenewal05Bride]

I'm really sorry you had to witness such an unfortunate event. After reading the post I "google" the story. There is a story about a suicide at CS. The details do coincide with your account.
http://www.trendyblog.com/

 

[mom_rules]

Thanks for posting. It is really sad when a person is in such dispair that they feel they have no alternative but to end their life. Our sympathies to the family. It is a very unfortunate thing when you have to experience something like this at the "happiest place on earth". Hopefully, time will heal.

 

[wdw4us2]

mmm... When was it -- just a few years ago when there were two suicides fairly close together in time at WDW?
One was the man who had a fight with his wife while staying at the Poly I think. His body was found in Seven Seas Lagoon, and his clothes on the beach.
And not long after that someone purposely jumped onto the monorail track from outside their room at the Cont.

We were at WDW when the incident on the monorail track took place. We had just arrived at the Contemporary for pin trading night (Friday) and the Orange County Sheriff's Office was still onsite. We used valet parking, and no CM's said a thing about it.

We didn't find out what happened until we were at the Pin Station. I asked one of our friends what happened, and they said someone had jumped and died, but they didn't know anything else about it. There was no "official" explanation from anyone at that time.

I am sorry for the OP, I believe this type of thing can stay with you for a long time.

 

[Greg K.]

I'm reminded of a story I read in one of the guidebooks (UG??) that described the great lengths Disney castmembers will go to make guests feel happy and carefree.

It involved an accident (or suicide?) much like the one the OP described: someone in the CR plummeting several stories to his death. That incident, it's said, happened in full view of many guests, during a busier time of day. People gasped in horror when it happened, but a quick-thinking castmember ran over to see if the poor soul survived. It was clear to everyone that he didn't. But the ever-cheerful Disney employee called out to the shocked throng of gawkers: "It's okay, everyone! He's just resting!"

 

[julia & nicks mom]

I am sorry that this ruined your vacation and I would have been very upset as well -

did you call bell services and ask them to help you move your luggage? if not - how would they have known you wanted help - I have moved rooms before and bell services came quickly to assist!

 

[yensid2005]

Hopefully this will be my last post...

Everything I posted on both boards regarding this is 100% factual. I also intentionally left out many details regarding what we witnessed. Wether or not everyone here agrees with my tactics... It "worked" for me. I have recieved a wealth of information both publically and privately regarding this tragedy. Because of this information, I have been able to piece together most of the sight's, sounds and voices into a very plausable scenario involving a struggle and a suicide. I truly believe this to be the case.

I would sincerely like to thank everyone that helped me with this. Whithout these forums, I can't imagine how else I could have aquired this information.

Finally, I would like to publicaly give my condolences to all the family and friends of the gentleman that lost his life, My heart goes out to you all.

Goodbye.....

 

[Ducky4Disney]

What?! I still don't understand what he was looking for? He was there! He brought it to our attention, why did he need us to piece it together for him? This cries foul, says I.

D4D

 

[pattyivtoo]

What?! I still don't understand what he was looking for? He was there! He brought it to our attention, why did he need us to piece it together for him? This cries foul, says I.

D4D

well I do know that there was an apparent suicide at the CR last sunday night/monday morning around 4am. I work at the reservation center and we were given a "reactive" statement to give any guests who called asking about it

 

[DebbieB]

What?! I still don't understand what he was looking for? He was there! He brought it to our attention, why did he need us to piece it together for him? This cries foul, says I.

D4D

It looks like to me that on the original post, the OP did not know if it was murder or suicide. That's why he was asking if anyone else heard about it. Another post he mentioned wondering if he would be called to tesify (if it was a murder). Fortunately, due to this thread, he got the answer.

 

[Lebjwb]

I've been in Hotel Operations for 30+ years. FWIW:

1.) Suicides at resorts/hotels are more common then you think.

2.) A suicide...murdering yourself, is considered a homicide and is investigated as such. It is illegal to kill yourself...I know that sounds stupid but a person that attempts suicide is subject to criminal prosecution. (And if that sounds strange, the death certificates of persons who are executed list homicide as cause of death.)

3.) An unattended death. The deceased passes while not under the supervision of a Doctor, is considered a criminal investigation until cleared by the Medical Examiner no matter how "obvious" the cause of death may appear.

In both the above situations the area where the death has occured is a crime scene until it is declared otherwise by the ME. No objects may be moved or removed, including the deceased. The area must be kept secure and a log is to be kept indicating who has entered/exited the area and at what time.

4.) To the extent of my experience with this, News agencies rarely will pursue a story of suicide out of respect to the family. This leads me to believe that the incident at Disney was indeed a suicide and thus the lack of news coverage.

 

[newtowdw1]

What?! I still don't understand what he was looking for? He was there! He brought it to our attention, why did he need us to piece it together for him? This cries foul, says I.

D4D

People who have experienced tragedies frequently need to talk about it...preferably with someone compassionate and empathetic.
I can understand his need to validate his experience. It's like driving by a shocking sight, turning to your companion, and saying, "Did you see THAT!!!" Totally understandable, IMHO

 

[ForTheLoveofDisney]

People who have experienced tragedies frequently need to talk about it...preferably with someone compassionate and empathetic.
I can understand his need to validate his experience. It's like driving by a shocking sight, turning to your companion, and saying, "Did you see THAT!!!" Totally understandable, IMHO

I agree. I feel he came here looking for support and a place to share such a traumatic experience with people who would give understanding attention. It's been proven that it did happened and I am truly sorry for what the OP had to experience.

 

[Disney Doll]

It's a shame something like this happened, but unfortunately when people get that depressed, there's no stopping them sometimes.

I don't like the insinuation of "cover-up". Would you prefer they told every guest about it and made the area into a new attraction? Some poor soul decided to end their life. They treated it with privacy. I'd appreciate that if it were my family member, and would prefer that their last moments alive not be broadcast over the national news because it happened at WDW.

As far as what WDW could por should "do" for the OP...changing rooms and comping a night's stay seemed pretty good to me. Amazing that for all the OP's "upsetment", they are able to come out of their horror long enough to decide that WDW didn't "do" enough for them for having witnessed this. Perhaps WDW can be sued for "mental anguish"????

 

[C.Ann]

I think a few posters here owe you an apology.. They basically came right out and called you a liar without even waiting for someone to post who would have the answer you were looking for - "murder or suicide"..

Anyhow - I'm sorry your vacation was so upsetting.. Hopefully you can return to WDW at another time and have a much more pleasant experience..

 

[rapriebe]

What?! I still don't understand what he was looking for? He was there! He brought it to our attention, why did he need us to piece it together for him? This cries foul, says I.

D4D

The attitude of numerous posters on this board are appalling. Why do you automatically assume that the OP is lying or trying to pull something over on someone. They witnessed a tragic event and just needed to get more information and possibly get some perspective on the situation. Some people use a "shrink", others talk to friends and some use the Disboards. It seems to me that there are alot of posters that need to practice having some compassion towards other people.

 

[tinkerbellmagic]

I totally agree with the post quoted below and rapriebe's post above. My heart goes out to the original poster and his family and for the poor soul who died. Thank you for sharing your story with us. I can't imagine how traumatic it was for everyone involved.
Tink

I think a few posters here owe you an apology.. They basically came right out and called you a liar without even waiting for someone to post who would have the answer you were looking for - "murder or suicide"..

Anyhow - I'm sorry your vacation was so upsetting.. Hopefully you can return to WDW at another time and have a much more pleasant experience..

 

[reedycreek]

i was there when this happened, but heard nothing about it until reading the OP. disney is real good about keeping this stuff hush hush. there is a book out there that details a lot of bad things that happen at disney parks (deaths, abuductions, etc). its called DISNEY; THE MOUSE BETRAYED. interesting reading. however, i no longer wish to hear about bad things at disney, it just takes the magic away everytime, i choose to ignore it all, as disney is my escape from reality.