Cutting in line..

[Disney_Princess83]

I don't let it upset me because

1) it has so rarely happened so us I don't see it being an issue
2) I'm on holidays, I'm not going to let something SO petty bother me! It's going to hold us up maybe... 20 seconds? LoL
3) If people are meeting up with their group, I have no problem with them when them doing so. This is a theme park, not the line for a kidney transplant.

A CM isn't going to enforce it so I just move on! If I get upset about it, then I'm ALLOWING them to "ruin" my time in the parks.

I feel bad for people who get so upset over these things! It must be a nightmare to be so worried about what other people are doing. In reality it costs you 30 seconds at most. If someone tried to stop me from joining my family, I'd definitely get a CM involved. Bathroom breaks happen and if you're waiting an hour + in line for an attraction, you can't just say "Should have gone before!" LoL especially not to children.

 

[Disney_Princess83]

We've been to Disney every year, sometimes twice some years, for the last 6 years. We have seen it several times. Honestly, we don't let it bother us. We are on vacation having fun and spending time together as a family. Every second we choose to deal with negative or ignorant people is a second we have chosen to not have fun. As long as they don't do anything that threatens the safety of my family or others, it's really not worth my time and effort. A few extra minutes in line with my kids is a few more minutes I get to spend with them talking about stuff. It won't be long until they won't want to hang around with me anymore.

Great post, this is exactly us! We are usually having so much fun in line, talking, laughing at the photos we have already taken that day, we don't really care

 

[Disney_Princess83]

I think thats a really good point and most people on the dis seem to consider both of your examples "line cutting" which to me it isn't. If people are just trying to cut in line, it's wrong (although I still don't let it upset me) however if they're just joining their family then that's not wrong at all. We've done it, last trip we had been waiting half an hour for Beast (he and Belle weren't out yet) and the line was already long. I had to duck to the bathroom so I raced across and back and jumped in line with my sister. That's not line cutting to me, I had already lined up for half an hour, what was I meant to do - entirely get out of the line, lose my spot, probably not be able to meet Belle and Beast since the line used to get get cut quite quickly there.

Holding the line for family members is not really line cutting. It might be an inconvenience to others and therefore kind of rude, but it isn't really line cutting. I don't do it, but I also don't ever bat an eye when it happens bc that's the way it goes.

As for real line cutting. It has only happened to me once- at Forbidden Journey at WWHP. A family of three got right in front of us. DFi confronted them, but they just motioned that we could go ahead of them if it bothered us. Missing the point....

 

[hsmamato2]

well, I don't let these things get to me in general,I usually don't notice much anyway! But what about those LONG lines like at HM where they keep saying 'fill in every available space' in the line area, they don't want one in front of another,they mean FILL the wide line...and then people start getting annoyed when I end up ahead of them,b/c they weren't listening...at all! Reality, I've read more about 'line cutting' here than I've ever seen IRL..... and FWIW, those who 'fill in' where they're supposed to,aren't cutting.

 

[cyros]

Hypothetical situation: Party of four adults and one child intend to go to Enchanted Tales with Belle as soon as the park opens. One adult will definitely need to visit a restroom before getting in line. How do you feel about the 3 adults and one small child waiting in line as usual and the remaining adult joining them 5+ (give or take) minutes later? Would this enrage guests? Would it be frowned upon by the CM? Should the entire party wait until the one adult is finished and just wait the extra 30 minutes or so in line the delay might cause?

 

[Disney_Princess83]

Hypothetical situation: Party of four adults and one child intend to go to Enchanted Tales with Belle as soon as the park opens. One adult will definitely need to visit a restroom before getting in line. How do you feel about the 3 adults and one small child waiting in line as usual and the remaining adult joining them 5+ (give or take) minutes later? Would this enrage guests? Would it be frowned upon by the CM? Should the entire party wait until the one adult is finished and just wait the extra 30 minutes or so in line the delay might cause?

1. Yes, it would enrage many people on the boards, given previous threads on this topic. I'm not one of them. bathroom stops are a fact of life.
2. The CM's generally don't care unless another guest is going to make an issue out of it. This is NOT line cutting
3. Many people on the dis, according to past posts on previous threads, would say yes, they group must stay together, even if it means an extra half an hour wait. Again, I'm not one of them.

 

[LilyWDW]

Hypothetical situation: Party of four adults and one child intend to go to Enchanted Tales with Belle as soon as the park opens. One adult will definitely need to visit a restroom before getting in line. How do you feel about the 3 adults and one small child waiting in line as usual and the remaining adult joining them 5+ (give or take) minutes later? Would this enrage guests? Would it be frowned upon by the CM? Should the entire party wait until the one adult is finished and just wait the extra 30 minutes or so in line the delay might cause?

Your group should be together to enter the line.

 

[Tonka's Skipper]

Hypothetical situation: Party of four adults and one child intend to go to Enchanted Tales with Belle as soon as the park opens. One adult will definitely need to visit a restroom before getting in line. How do you feel about the 3 adults and one small child waiting in line as usual and the remaining adult joining them 5+ (give or take) minutes later? Would this enrage guests? Would it be frowned upon by the CM? Should the entire party wait until the one adult is finished and just wait the extra 30 minutes or so in line the delay might cause?

IMHO

This is the normal stuff that is not a problem.

I refuse to let people bye when its.......1 member in line and then just as your getting near the loading spot,......3.....5.......10 or more start trying to cut in......or a tour group leader suddenly stopping the line to let the group in,(they are very upset when I move my family right along or gently move them out of the way...or just people generally cutting in line.

AKK

 

[Disney_Princess83]

Your group should be together to enter the line.

What if you've been in the line already for an extended period and someone has to go to the bathroom? Should they ALL have to leave the line, and then line up again, adding maybe 30 minutes or even more to their wait? while the people in line would only be 30 seconds "behind" if the person could leave the line and come back

 

[#1DopeyFan]

Hypothetical situation: Party of four adults and one child intend to go to Enchanted Tales with Belle as soon as the park opens. One adult will definitely need to visit a restroom before getting in line. How do you feel about the 3 adults and one small child waiting in line as usual and the remaining adult joining them 5+ (give or take) minutes later? Would this enrage guests? Would it be frowned upon by the CM? Should the entire party wait until the one adult is finished and just wait the extra 30 minutes or so in line the delay might cause?

I'm curious as to how does 5 minutes turn into a 30 minute delay?

 

[Disney_Princess83]

I'm curious as to how does 5 minutes turn into a 30 minute delay?

A 5 minute "hold up" prior to jumping in the stand by line can easily mean the family has to wait 30 + minutes for a ride, when they might have only had to wait 5 minutes had they been able to jump straight into the ride line.

 

[cyros]

I've not done Enchanted Tales with Belle and I'm not a Disney veteran but I was told that a five minute delay in arriving to that particular attraction would mean missing at least one show as so many people rush to that attraction when the park opens that many people would have entered the line in those 5 minutes. I have no idea if this is accurate.

 

[LaurenT]

I'm curious as to how does 5 minutes turn into a 30 minute delay?

Because while you're spending 5 min in the bathroom, 200 people are getting in line...it could easily cost you 30 minutes, even an hour.
To the pp whose asked if it would be ok....you'd most certainly have some people get upset. Would they say something, give the other guests a knowing look, or just keep it to themselves? Depends on the specific people you run I to.
I think the Belle thing is one where the adults in line don't matter - from what I understand, they don't get counted as participants, but I haven't done it yet myself, so I'm not sure. If you were talking about Peter Pan, then you'd definitely be considered cutting.
If your question is more than just hypothetical, my suggestion would be to use the restrooms next to guest services just outside the turnstiles (to the right as you face the park). That way you'll be ready to join the throngs when the rope drops.

 

[Disney_Princess83]

I've not done Enchanted Tales with Belle and I'm not a Disney veteran but I was told that a five minute delay in arriving to that particular attraction would mean missing at least one show as so many people rush to that attraction when the park opens that many people would have entered the line in those 5 minutes. I have no idea if this is accurate.

It is. If the park opens at 9am, you can jump in line and get in with minimal wait. According to the reports, by 10am, the wait time was 45 minutes+

 

[#1DopeyFan]

A 5 minute "hold up" prior to jumping in the stand by line can easily mean the family has to wait 30 + minutes for a ride, when they might have only had to wait 5 minutes had they been able to jump straight into the ride line.

Possible, yes...also possible the line goes down in that 5 minutes also.

 

[Disney_Princess83]

Possible, yes...also possible the line goes down in that 5 minutes also.

Unless it's The Tiki Room, very few ride lines go down as the morning continues! Certainly not something like Enchanted Tales, the Mountains or Peter Pan.

 

[#1DopeyFan]

Unless it's The Tiki Room, very few ride lines go down as the morning continues! Certainly not something like Enchanted Tales, the Mountains or Peter Pan.

True, I did overlook the park opening part, my bad.

As an adult, would YOU (general you, not just Disney_Princess83 ) feel ok pushing past enough people to cause a 30 minute wait to rejoin your party?

 

[stindall]

Sometimes I'll let it go, sometimes I'll say something. You never know how someone might react to you saying something though but sometimes you can gauge that. Generally if it's a group of teens I'll make it a point to tell them it's not okay, especially after a trip to Cedar Point last summer and having that problem several times.

I don't think as an adult there is any reason you should rejoin a line once you leave. If I had a medical problem and had to leave the line, I wouldn't try and rejoin it. If I had to use the bathroom, I wouldn't rejoin. I would wait for the rest of the family. Any way you slice it, you have to push past people who are standing in line, and there just isn't really the room to do that. And I think bumping into numerous people as you try to get back to your family is rude.

I agree.

 

[Superspectral]

Hypothetical situation: Party of four adults and one child intend to go to Enchanted Tales with Belle as soon as the park opens. One adult will definitely need to visit a restroom before getting in line. How do you feel about the 3 adults and one small child waiting in line as usual and the remaining adult joining them 5+ (give or take) minutes later? Would this enrage guests? Would it be frowned upon by the CM? Should the entire party wait until the one adult is finished and just wait the extra 30 minutes or so in line the delay might cause?

How would I feel?

Well, again, I can't read your mind or the rest of your party. I can't know what rationale you chose to "jump the line" or "cut" or whatever. You might choose to tell me. That might help. Although I couldn't be certain you were telling the truth. It probably isn't practical, maybe not advisable to tell everyone in the line. Or the CMs. So, from everyone else's point of view in the line, the your rationale is unknowable. So frankly, I'd be dubious.

Since there is no way for me to a priori know anything about you or the situation, the question really is: "Do you feel that the situation justifies having hundreds of people in the line with one or more of the following opinions? Didn't notice; Didn't care; Think you cut with no excuse; Think you cut with an excuse; Willing to confront you; Willing to let it slide." Any and all are possibilities. So even if I agreed that the situation was one where I might not care what people thought and I'd do the same thing as you - there is no guarantee that 100 people in the line would agree. And I can't speak for them.

Suppose the person needing the bathroom break wasn't associated with your party. Or any party. If they took a bathroom break before joining the line; they'd have absolutely no reason to cut ahead. This is I'm sure what some posters would mean by "truly cutting". Likewise, suppose they left the line to go to the bathroom. Unless they notified a cast member or a fellow line member of their intentions to rejoin the line - no one in the line could possibly understand or agree that they had any right to rejoin the line (even if they thought that they did).

The only difference if the re-joiner is part of a party is that in the particular example 4 people might be certain of the re-joiner's attentions. So now its 5 people (vs. the rest of the park) instead of only 1.

Now in the particular example, a reasonable alternative is that all 5 wait for the 1 adult to go to the bathroom; then join the line together. This is a baseline equitable alternative that would bother no one else in the park.

So basically the tradeoff the OP is asking with the hypothetical situation for everyone else to let slide is not one person re-joining, but having X people in line allow 5 people to get ahead of them that they don't know so that 4 other people they don't know don't have to wait 5 minutes for 1 person to to the bathroom.

If the 4 chose to stay in line; and if someone objects or the re-joiner can't catch up for any reason; why should anyone feel obligated to allow the party to re-join? They voluntarily seperated with no guarantee except the imposition on the tolerance of others that they would rejoin.

In an ideal world with perfect ettiquite, the party of 4 would ask permsion of everyone who joined in line behind them. Of course, that isn't practical. So it seems to me hypothetical posters are hoping for is that everyone wink-wink-nudge-nudge is giving quasi-permission before the fact. And you know, you might find 500 people on disboards who agree with you. That probably won't sway everyone behind you in line.

 

[cyros]

FWIW, there is a medical issue that requires frequent bathroom breaks for the one adult in the party. Enchanted Tales was the only attraction that was a "must do" for the little girl and the reason for attending rope drop (spending a half day only in the park). There would be no issues waiting for the party to reunite for any other ride or attraction as nothing else is a priority that day. In any case, I understand this would upset some people and is therefore not okay. Will also pass along info that there are washrooms outside of the gate (if I understand correctly). Just curious what the general opinion was on this. Thank you for the feedback