Cutting in line..

[NJRRK]

I'm not understanding why this thread wôuld be a problem?

You're new here.

Get out the popcorn and enjoy the "ride."

 

[Peter Fan]

FWIW, there is a medical issue that requires frequent bathroom breaks for the one adult in the party. Enchanted Tales was the only attraction that was a "must do" for the little girl and the reason for attending rope drop (spending a half day only in the park). There would be no issues waiting for the party to reunite for any other ride or attraction as nothing else is a priority that day. In any case, I understand this would upset some people and is therefore not okay. Will also pass along info that there are washrooms outside of the gate (if I understand correctly). Just curious what the general opinion was on this. Thank you for the feedback

If you have problems with frequent urination get a medical fast pass.

 

[stargazertechie]

If you have problems with frequent urination get a medical fast pass.

There is no such thing as a medical fastpass

You might be thinking of a Guest Assistance Card (GAC) which does NOT shorten the wait, nor does it grant instant access to a ride or attraction. It provides an accommodation (a quiet area to wait, an entrance with a ramp, a waiting area in the shade, etc) for a disability (temporary or permanent)

 

[perdidochas]

I've read a lot about this lately, & I'm wondering how many of YOU have actually had this happen? I may sound childish, but I don't know if I could keep calm if I've been standing in 100* heat for 30 minutes to meet belle & someone cut in front of me lol. How did you handle it? Are there CM who tell the people to go to the back of the line?

My general approach now is to loudly talk to my wife about how rude it is to cut in line.

 

[Peter Fan]

There is no such thing as a medical fastpass

You might be thinking of a Guest Assistance Card (GAC) which does NOT shorten the wait, nor does it grant instant access to a ride or attraction. It provides an accommodation (a quiet area to wait, an entrance with a ramp, a waiting area in the shade, etc) for a disability (temporary or permanent)

No. You get in the fastpass line with everyone else and get right on. Not really sure of the exact name.

 

[newlittleminnie]

My general approach now is to loudly talk to my wife about how rude it is to cut in line.

I do the same thing. It might not actually achieve anything, but it sure makes me feel better!

However it would depend on the situation, if a large group of people push me out of the way I would loudly voice how rude it is.

If a couple of people politely ask me if they can squeeze through to rejoin their family, I don't see the need to see anything.

 

[nat8199]

I can easily think of why an adult should be able to rejoin their family...

When I have to pee, I have to pee. I do not have a medical condition that would justify a card, I simple have pushed out three babies and do not have the muscle control. Yes, I go to the bathroom before entering a long line, but if I am still in line 45 minutes later, chances are I will have to go again.

We have three toddlers/preschoolers. My DH can wrangle them by himself standing in line, but not at a the actual ride/m&g we would be waiting for.

So all of you are saying that because I have weak bladder muscles, my entire family should get out of line simply because I have to pee? That is absurd.

 

[AlohaAnnie]

well, I don't let these things get to me in general,I usually don't notice much anyway! But what about those LONG lines like at HM where they keep saying 'fill in every available space' in the line area, they don't want one in front of another,they mean FILL the wide line...and then people start getting annoyed when I end up ahead of them,b/c they weren't listening...at all! Reality, I've read more about 'line cutting' here than I've ever seen IRL..... and FWIW, those who 'fill in' where they're supposed to,aren't cutting.

I agree with this, we often get dirty looks because we fill in all available space.

I also think if a family is in line & someone has to potty in a long line there is nothing wrong with going.

I don't see the big deal & I am a rule follower.

Now when someone is cutting line with the purpose of moving up that is different. But I have never encountered this in all our trips. Not saying it doesn't happen, I am sure it does.

You never know what is going on with someone, this is why I cut people some slack. I want to believe in my heart people are good & do not have a rude agenda, if they do, I am glad I missed it.

 

[pmaurer74]

Not WDW related but we were in line for Disney on Ice in the freezing cold and a family got off the elevator and the mom siad to her DD to get in line in the front and just "pretend" they were already there the whole time. I did say something about what a lesson to teach her child. She either did not hear me or ignored me.

 

[starsweeper]

I'm sure it has happened to us. I try not to focus on it because it's mainly been 1-2 people joining a group. However, I think WDW could easily solve a lot of this by posting signs at each ride that your entire group must enter the line at the same time in order to ride together.

 

[minnie mum]

No. You get in the fastpass line with everyone else and get right on. Not really sure of the exact name.

No. Stargazertechie was correct. There is no such thing as a medical fastpass. Nor is there anything that allows a person to do what you are describing. If you wish to educate yourself on this matter, please spend a little time over on the disAbilities board where all of these things are explained at length.

The closest thing to what you describe are the very special accommodations that are made for Make A Wish children.

 

[Pills]

The only time it happened to us in our four family trips, I didn't mind at all.

We were going to the old Pixie Hollow in 2009, when the photographer asked if we could just wait while they took a picture with a couple in their late 40s or so who had come in the back way. They were posing with Faun (or Rosetta?) and, well, the fairy happened to be a younger version of the woman she was posing with. Obviously her mom. I thought it was funny that it was something that my wife and I noticed right away, and the kids were oblivious to.

It took me longer to write this that the time that we had to wait, so we didn't really care.

 

[Dacky619]

No. You get in the fastpass line with everyone else and get right on. Not really sure of the exact name.

Despite what others are saying, some people use the GAC to do this. We have a friend that has been trying to get us to visit the same time as her family so we can "skip all the lines" using her GAC. We would never do it, but her son loves it. Honestly I don't know how often those cards are abused like this.

 

[Superspectral]

I can easily think of why an adult should be able to rejoin their family...

When I have to pee, I have to pee. I do not have a medical condition that would justify a card, I simple have pushed out three babies and do not have the muscle control. Yes, I go to the bathroom before entering a long line, but if I am still in line 45 minutes later, chances are I will have to go again.

We have three toddlers/preschoolers. My DH can wrangle them by himself standing in line, but not at a the actual ride/m&g we would be waiting for.

So all of you are saying that because I have weak bladder muscles, my entire family should get out of line simply because I have to pee? That is absurd.

Reasonable people disagree here. Thats why this topic is controversal. Remember, nearly no one but you knows why you are re-joining the line.

Again, re-joining doesn't really work if you can't see where your party is. It is possible that they are already on Splash Mountain, or whatever.

There are equitable alternatives that are not inconvenient to others in the line. Your family doesn't have to get out of line. Only you. You can meet them at where the attraction lets out. Some attractions have single rider lines. Or just get back in the line. Many people will do exactly these things rather than re-join in the same situation.

Or you can re-join. You might get some stink eye. You might not. Up to you. It is impossible to live without doing some ambiguous things from time time to time. If you keep it rare, then it isn't a problem.

 

[minnie mum]

Despite what others are saying, some people use the GAC to do this. We have a friend that has been trying to get us to visit the same time as her family so we can "skip all the lines" using her GAC. We would never do it, but her son loves it. Honestly I don't know how often those cards are abused like this.

There are a few (please note the emphasis on this) attractions where someone with a GAC or a wheelchair/ECV skips the regular standby line. This only occurs on some of the older attractions where the line cannot accommodate a chair or scooter OR if the person with the GAC cannot tolerate the conditions of the standby line. In those situations there will be an alternate route for them to take, or there will be an alternate place for the guest to wait their turn. In these situations the guest will usually wait as long as guests in the regular line. Sometimes they will wait longer.

Does GAC abuse happen? Without doubt. You will always have those who will try to milk any system, and current ADA laws prevent Disney from requiring proof of disability. Hopefully most of the cheaters quickly learn that the GACs aren't quite the superfastpass that they thought they were.

 

[Superspectral]

So thinking of the new RFID/magic band system, it would be pretty easy for Disney to really discourage rope jumping.

Now to get on FP+, you have to put your card on the RFID reader. If it goes green, go ahead. If it goes blue (I think I've got these colors right, forgive me if I'm off) the FP reader is telling you "No". You ask the CM why then, and they are supposed to look at their tablet to tell you your return time. The key to the new system will be that CMs never say "No" - they are only explaining. Only the machine says "No". Can't fight the machine. So, once fully implemented, no more "no entry, your return time is gone past" but rather "I'm sorry, but the machine won't approve you once your return time is past". This happens at the FP merge point too.

So if Disney installed a MagicBand Reader - of the long range proximity type - at the standby entrance, then at the FP merge point, the system could tell how long you've been in the line (you wouldn't have to tell it). So anyone jumping with a magic band who somehow spent 10 minutes in line when everone else spent 50, or who was sensed having left, could be refused. Of course, you could put sensors in the bathroom. If you went there and back immediately, it could forgive you.

 

[FancyNancy]

I've had it happen where two people were holding a spot for like 10 people on Peter Pan's Flight. It was hot and there was a 40 minute wait to begin with. Then 10 people start cutting in front of you and yes it can be so irritating! Especially when you have little kids who don't understand why all of those people are cutting you off. In my opinion that is a situation where if the number of people joining their party outnumber the people holding a spot they should all go to the back. Emergency potty breaks aside. Get in line when everyone can be present. It's just that simple.

 

[Peter Fan]

Despite what others are saying, some people use the GAC to do this. We have a friend that has been trying to get us to visit the same time as her family so we can "skip all the lines" using her GAC. We would never do it, but her son loves it. Honestly I don't know how often those cards are abused like this.

Yes thats what I'm talking about. We were told to use it this way.

 

[stargazertechie]

Yes thats what I'm talking about. We were told to use it this way.

That's quite interesting that you were "told" by Disney to use it that way. There's no reason to be put through the FP line unless the standby queue is not mainstreamed (and you need an accessible entrance) or the FP line is the quickest way to get to an alternate waiting area (such as with TSMM- the only "quiet" waiting area is the W/A boarding zone).

It's not designed to give instant access to attractions, and in my family's experiencing using it, our waits were more often than not LONGER than the posted standby time.

 

[maxiesmom]

I think thats a really good point and most people on the dis seem to consider both of your examples "line cutting" which to me it isn't. If people are just trying to cut in line, it's wrong (although I still don't let it upset me) however if they're just joining their family then that's not wrong at all.

Joining the rest of your family in line IS line cutting. If you were not in line to begin with and have to push past others to meet up with your family, you are cutting in front of those people who you just pushed past. How is that not cutting them?