Cutting in line..

[vcgirl925]

Oh, I wouldn't care about a parent bringing the child to the other parent. I have a 5 year old, so I'm sure there will be lots of potty breaks. I mainly meant random people just getting in the line from no where.

I'm glad the CM made them move to the back!

 

[TBdisneyMC]

I've only seen 'real' line cutting once, about 8 years ago. We were in the outside portion of the Splash Mtn line and 3 kids about 12 yo ducked under the rope. They stood there for a little bit and I think I said something either directly or indirectly to them, and eventually the guilt got to them and they left. I hope they learned their lesson and they didn't try again later. Now that I'm a high school teacher, I know I would say something to them! I get cut off in the hallways enough, so I'm not dealing with it at Disney!

I deal with the 're-joiners,' but I haven't seen it too often and never large groups, so I let it go. I understand when it's parent/children. I've also had to deal with people who try to inch past you or cut the corners in wide lines like PotC... that annoys me. There's no chance they'll get past me.

 

[UpstateMick]

It was only on one trip, last year, that we experienced so many line jumpers. I am hoping it was an isolated incident.

Oh, and a rule to live by on Disboards:

We value your opinion, just as long as we agree with you.

 

[jselcke]

I've read a lot about this lately, & I'm wondering how many of YOU have actually had this happen? I may sound childish, but I don't know if I could keep calm if I've been standing in 100* heat for 30 minutes to meet belle & someone cut in front of me lol. How did you handle it? Are there CM who tell the people to go to the back of the line?

I have had it happen, I generally just infor my children how we always wait our turn because it is fair and how we like to be fair to every one, load enough for the intruders and everyone around to notice but not so loud as to sound like an obnoxious complainer. This lets them know that what they are doing is noticeable and it is wrong while enforcing the right way to behave to my children.

 

[smidgy]

yay! the "entitled" game! I can't believe something I started actually stuck!

and now I can't fine the drink smilie.. can I drink anyway?

 

[minnie mum]

yay! the "entitled" game! I can't believe something I started actually stuck!

and now I can't fine the drink smilie.. can I drink anyway?

Here- This one's on me- You are entitled to it since you invented the game. Now one for me.

We've encountered line cutting many times. Usually multiply times in the course of a week's visit. I have never had a problem with someone who has to leave the line for whatever reason, and then return. I do have a problem with those self important guests who think that their time is SO much more important than everyone else's and that they are entitled to waltz through the line when it suits them. But, of course, that's just my opinion, and everyone is at least entitled to that. . That's my limit. I'll have to switch to Coke now.

 

[CaliBear]

Having been to both resorts; cutting in line seems much more prevalent at DLR than WDW. Most of the cutting (either resort) is where one person holds a place and the other members jump the rope at the last moment to catch up. Doing this at WDW seems very rare - I witness it once or never per week- and the reaction is a lot of stink eye or worse. It seem quasi accepted at DLR - you see it 3-4 times a day. Most of the lines are outside in CA and are simple rope serpentines. WDW lines are much more hidden - which discourages rope jumping. In neither resort do CM confront cutters; except for character lines. YMMV

Holding the line for family members is not really line cutting. It might be an inconvenience to others and therefore kind of rude, but it isn't really line cutting. I don't do it, but I also don't ever bat an eye when it happens bc that's the way it goes.

As for real line cutting. It has only happened to me once- at Forbidden Journey at WWHP. A family of three got right in front of us. DFi confronted them, but they just motioned that we could go ahead of them if it bothered us. Missing the point....

 

[dawnhaze]

Some folks tried to cut in the line to meet Tiana today. It wasn't even a long line - 2 families ahead and maybe 4 or 5 behind. There was only one CM and she was busy taking photos for people.

I'm a bigger person and I have no issue sticking my arm out and saying hey, people are waiting here, you aren't getting by. It's the obnoxious New Yorker in me.

(I would never bother parents with kids who are obviously rejoining their family, though. Potty breaks happen.)

 

[Kristine316]

I haven't experienced line cutters at Disney but, we had a bad experience at Universal this past September.

We were waiting in line for that wand thing in the Harry Potter part of Islands of Adventure. I really didn't want to wait for that.. the line was long and it was moving at a snails pace but, my son insisted.

Anyway, we were near the front with only 3 people in front of us.. waiting by the door to be let in. Its a show and they only allow maybe 20 people at a time in the little store.We had been waiting at least 30 minutes, thinking we would definitely be let in with the next group, when the three girls in front of us motioned for a group of other girls to come over. They talked for a little while with the large group of girls on one side of the rope and the other three on our side, waiting in line... well, the next thing you know they allow two girls from the group to go under the rope and join them ahead of us in line. I was annoyed but, I about lost it when they looked around to see if a Universal employee was watching and then allowed another 3 girls under the rope to stand with them in line. Eventually every girl from the large group but, a couple were now in line in front of us. I am sure the other two would have been as well but, obviously they didn't want to see the attraction.
We were literally moved backwards and you could hear the moaning and disgust from those behind us who were equally ticked off.
We just squeeked into the next show.. we were the last ones.. the many people behind us who should have been in the store with us for the show were the ones who really got the shaft.. they had to wait for the next one.

I told a Universal employee about it and they seemed concerned but, at that point what could be done.. I never said anything until it was over.

The girls were with a tour group from another country, they all had matching shirts and they didn't seem to speak English..... they sure acted like they couldn't understand those behind us who were making comments to them about cutting in line.
I was angry and annoyed but, I forced myself to keep quiet. I didn't want a big scene.

 

[~Tonga Wingo~]

For me, I'm on vacation and I try not to let anything bother me even people jumping the line. If people are catching up to their party, chances are they would be in the same boat/car/seat anyway and I won't wait any longer than I would have anyway. If they aren't really catching up to their party and are truly line cutting then I may have another minute wait . I'm not going to let either scenario bug me.

 

[cruisingkat]

I used to dislike people trying to catch up with their party until our trip this past Dec with our son, DIL, and granddaughters. This time hubby and I were the ones catching up with the rest of the family. My husband has heel spurs and has to use a boot and a cane so we don't walk as fast as the kids - also, the less standing he has to do-the better so by catching up to them in line cut down the time he was on his feet - Being the typical man he refuses to use a wheelchair or ECV as he claims those are for those people who really need them. When we go by ourselves, we only spend a couple of hours in the park but with the grandkids, well we stay much longer in the parks. (At least this last trip caused him to get a permanent solution to the heel spurs).
I have changed my outlook and figure that a couple of people joining the rest of their family might be in the same situation that we were in and will cut them some slack.

 

[tlkgt76]

I've read a lot about this lately, & I'm wondering how many of YOU have actually had this happen? I may sound childish, but I don't know if I could keep calm if I've been standing in 100* heat for 30 minutes to meet belle & someone cut in front of me lol. How did you handle it? Are there CM who tell the people to go to the back of the line?

In 2007 my mom and step-dad came with us on our WDW trip and my daughter was 5 at the time. While standing in line for The Seas with Nimo a group of about 4-5 guys came charging through the line, knocking over anybody in their path. They met their match when they came up to my mother (5'3 lol) and they didn't stand a chance. (They all acted like they didn't speak English, but they were all laughing at the time.)

She spread her arms out and grabbed both railings, then when they got up to her she looked them right in the face and said "Uh yeah, I don't think so."

Needless to say they didn't get any further than our group.

 

[tlkgt76]

Obviously, i wouldnt be happy witha flat out line cut...and i would stop it. However, I have no issues with mom or dad and child catching up with the rest of the family. I too...have cought up with my wife after bathroom visit. To me...no big deal.

I've never considered a couple people from the group heading to the potty and back cutting. To me "cutting" is somebody purposely going in front of people for the sake of being too lazy to stand in line.

I would think at Disney the majority of people there would understand that kids can't hold it. lol

Also, I'm fine with this post being here, just because it was discussed in the past doesn't mean you can't discuss it again. Maybe there's been some updates to the process. I would think that there's enough reading material here to just skip this and go onto the next post if you don't like this one?

 

[yankeesfan123]

To me, the question is "why are you rejoining your family?" (I dont actually ask people).

If you are catching up to your family at RNRC because you went to ToT to get a fast pass, sorry, not good enough of an excuse.

If you are catching up to your family because you had to leave the line to use the bathroom or bring your child to use the bathroom, fine. That is understandable.

I never cut the line for any reason. And I've never made an issue over people that do. But it does irk me.

 

[tlkgt76]

To me, the question is "why are you rejoining your family?" (I dont actually ask people).

If you are catching up to your family at RNRC because you went to ToT to get a fast pass, sorry, not good enough of an excuse.

If you are catching up to your family because you had to leave the line to use the bathroom or bring your child to use the bathroom, fine. That is understandable.

I never cut the line for any reason. And I've never made an issue over people that do. But it does irk me.

I usually let it go and here's my personal reason.....you don't really know why somebody is catching up with their family. Personally, I've had to leave a line before because I'm a diabetic and had to go give myself an insulin shot (I don't like the idea of pulling up my shirt and giving a shot in front of everybody, plus the injection site can bleed) or the opposite, had to go get something with sugar in it before I fell over. I'm guessing that most folks wouldn't want their children freaked out by seeing me either pass out or bleed from a needle. (Trust me, you don't want to see my naked belly either , bahaha.)

For some reason the heat can rapidly change my blood sugars and it took me a few visits to figure out what was going on. It only happened a couple times, because from then on I knew what I would need to be prepared, but when you're standing there looking at an adult who states that they are trying to catch up with their family who's to say that's not the first time they've encountered a medical problem?

 

[maxiesmom]

I usually let it go and here's my personal reason.....you don't really know why somebody is catching up with their family. Personally, I've had to leave a line before because I'm a diabetic and had to go give myself an insulin shot (I don't like the idea of pulling up my shirt and giving a shot in front of everybody, plus the injection site can bleed) or the opposite, had to go get something with sugar in it before I fell over. I'm guessing that most folks wouldn't want their children freaked out by seeing me either pass out or bleed from a needle. (Trust me, you don't want to see my naked belly either , bahaha.)

For some reason the heat can rapidly change my blood sugars and it took me a few visits to figure out what was going on. It only happened a couple times, because from then on I knew what I would need to be prepared, but when you're standing there looking at an adult who states that they are trying to catch up with their family who's to say that's not the first time they've encountered a medical problem?

I don't think as an adult there is any reason you should rejoin a line once you leave. If I had a medical problem and had to leave the line, I wouldn't try and rejoin it. If I had to use the bathroom, I wouldn't rejoin. I would wait for the rest of the family. Any way you slice it, you have to push past people who are standing in line, and there just isn't really the room to do that. And I think bumping into numerous people as you try to get back to your family is rude.

 

[LaurenT]

What a class act, he almost punched you? You're a woman, right?

I am the type of person that gets angry inside and holds it in, gritting my teeth lol

Lol, yes, I'm a woman. And yes, he was a big, burly guy and almost punched me. I happen to be somewhat accomplished in Wing Chun, so if he had actually thrown the punch, he may have regretted it, but then I'd probably wind up in trouble too - so, it's better to just let it go.
I was waiting in line for TSM FPs back in the days of the TSM RD stampede.
This guy just moved everyone aside and stepped in front of them...all the way up to the machine. Then he fed a bunch of tickets into the machine. We were all looking at each other. Finally I said, "excuse me, but do you even k ow anyone in this line?". Well, you'd have thought I spit on his shoe. He started cursing, yelling, getting in my face and shouting at me to mind my own business....
Turns out the woman who had exited the line before him was his wife. She watched the whole thing from the sidelines with the most humiliated look on her face. CM's had to lead him away to talk to him, and all the while he was yelling at them about why they weren't taking me away....
What a fun way to start your Disney day!

 

[Superspectral]

Holding the line for family members is not really line cutting. It might be an inconvenience to others and therefore kind of rude, but it isn't really line cutting. I don't do it, but I also don't ever bat an eye when it happens bc that's the way it goes.

As for real line cutting. It has only happened to me once- at Forbidden Journey at WWHP. A family of three got right in front of us. DFi confronted them, but they just motioned that we could go ahead of them if it bothered us. Missing the point....

If everyone held the line for their family members then the queue would break down. The queue functions because most people don't do it. If someone jumps ahead of you in line, then they jump ahead. As most posters on this thread have pointed out, you really can't look inside a line jumper's mind to understand the circumstances. I think most people would like to believe that there was an extenuating circumstance. If the jumper doesn't explain him or herself, well you really never know. Which leaves one wondering if you aren't being taken for a chump if you don't question it (or do it yourself). So the fact is some people are now ahead of you when they weren't before. The question is, is it execusable or not? Reasonable people may differ - which doesn't matter too much as long as it is really rare.

IMHO from a lot of trips to WDW it seems really rare. Less rare at DLR, but not quite to the point that things are breaking down.

Can things break down? Yes. Even when all is best intentioned. Check out this link:

http://miceage.micechat.com/allutz/al091812a.htm

It appears that last summer RSR at DCA had lines 35-45 minutes long just for people with guest assistance cards. There were a few days where 1/4 of the ride capacity for the day was taken by people with guest assistance cards! The speculation is, of course, that perhaps the cards had been given out too freely. Which is a shame since it stigmatizes a good program for the guests who can benefit from it. And quite honestly, I would want a good functioning guest assistance card program - as it is not only a decent thing to do, but it also minimizes people holding places in the standby line.

 

[Superspectral]

Lol, yes, I'm a woman. And yes, he was a big, burly guy and almost punched me. I happen to be somewhat accomplished in Wing Chun, so if he had actually thrown the punch, he may have regretted it, but then I'd probably wind up in trouble too - so, it's better to just let it go.
I was waiting in line for TSM FPs back in the days of the TSM RD stampede.
This guy just moved everyone aside and stepped in front of them...all the way up to the machine. Then he fed a bunch of tickets into the machine. We were all looking at each other. Finally I said, "excuse me, but do you even k ow anyone in this line?". Well, you'd have thought I spit on his shoe. He started cursing, yelling, getting in my face and shouting at me to mind my own business....
Turns out the woman who had exited the line before him was his wife. She watched the whole thing from the sidelines with the most humiliated look on her face. CM's had to lead him away to talk to him, and all the while he was yelling at them about why they weren't taking me away....
What a fun way to start your Disney day!

I am highly dubious about the RFID / Fastpass+ system; but it does seem likely to curtail people charging to the FP machines with 20 cards at the opening of the parks.

 

[mm1971]

I've read a lot about this lately, & I'm wondering how many of YOU have actually had this happen? I may sound childish, but I don't know if I could keep calm if I've been standing in 100* heat for 30 minutes to meet belle & someone cut in front of me lol. How did you handle it? Are there CM who tell the people to go to the back of the line?

We've been to Disney every year, sometimes twice some years, for the last 6 years. We have seen it several times. Honestly, we don't let it bother us. We are on vacation having fun and spending time together as a family. Every second we choose to deal with negative or ignorant people is a second we have chosen to not have fun. As long as they don't do anything that threatens the safety of my family or others, it's really not worth my time and effort. A few extra minutes in line with my kids is a few more minutes I get to spend with them talking about stuff. It won't be long until they won't want to hang around with me anymore.