Cutting in line..

[debbie1996]

I think there's a fair amount of lack of perspective to go around. I have to say, for all of you so adamantly determined to cut in front of others and they should "just relax" and "what's the big deal" - I've got to say - what's the big freaking deal about everyone riding together?

Let's leave out the kids having to potty - the number of people who have an issue if a parent has to run their child to the bathroom in the middle of the queue is tiny. The idea that Mom or Dad have to run and get FP or finish their shopping trip or otherwise do something more important than waiting in line and then cut in front of the others waiting - get over yourself. It's straight up rude. If it's that important to see your darling's face on dumbo or the teacups - get your *** in line - otherwise they can tell you all about it after the ride - it's your vacation right, why sweat the small stuff.

And BTW the poster with the asinine supermarket scenario - the analogy of forgetting the milk equates to the kid having to potty - most people don't have an issue - but if you park your husband in line while you run around shopping and show up with a cart full of groceries, there's no way that isn't cutting in line and would be bizarre for any normal person.

And to drive a nail in the coffin of the idea that it's allowed by Disney - my nephew had his AP revoked at DL for trying to hold places in line for a group. It is absolutely against the rules and regulations of the park. It may be enforced sparingly - but then again so is speeding (compared to the number of people doing it), but that doesn't mean that it isn't contrary to the rules.

 

[Bullseye]

Why would you confront someone? Are you in charge of the line? Since there is no rule saying you can't meet your family in line, there is no reason for you to open your mouth.

I'll tell you what, I will open my mouth and give you a piece of my mind every time someone like you, who wasn't ever in line in the first place starts pushing their way through line. I won't move, be moved, or stop you from going around me. But at least if you have any sense of decency, fair play, and common courtesy for your fellow man, maybe you wont do the same thing in the next line youre in. Hopefully, while Im calling you out, others in the vicinity will also open their mouths and let you know you need to wait like everyone else.

Where does the thinking come from that some people should have to wait for 45 minutes to get to the point they are at in line, and you (the entitled) should just get to make your way up through the line in a minute because someone you know is up there? Why do you get to ride at the same time as I do or sooner when you haven't made the same sacrifice?

Maybe I'm not in charge of the line, but I AM in charge of the space I'm standing in. If I choose not to yield it to someone else when they ask me to let them by, why should they (or you) get all upset about it?

After all, it's just a ride, right? We'll ALL get to ride eventually, right? Five minutes before me, or a minute or two behind me, it's all the same, right?

 

[maxiesmom]

Where does the thinking come from that some people should have to wait for 45 minutes to get to the point they are at in line, and you (the entitled) should just get to make your way up through the line in a minute because someone you know is up there? Why do you get to ride at the same time as I do or sooner when you havent made the same sacrifice?

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They are banking on the goodwill of others, and the fact that many people like to avoid confrontations. That is it. They know, even though there are not signs posted saying line cutting is wrong, that it is wrong. They just know most people will not say anything to them.

 

[aleksandr]

I look at line breakers the same way I look at people who cut around traffic in the breakdown lane on the highway--one day, it may not be today, but one day, they will get whats due to them.

Other than that I don't let it bother me much. The one thing that does get me heated though are people who use camera flashes in dark rides despite all of the warnings against doing so. Getting cut in line delays my ride experience by a short time. Snapping flash pictures in my face while on the ride ruins my ride experience completely.

 

[JimmyV]

In hundreds and hundreds of park days dating back to 1972, I have never once witnessed what I perceived to be a premeditated effort at cheating the system such as people pretending to try to catch up to a group further up in line with no actual group there. Have I been passed by people trying to catch up to their actual group? Sure. Daily. Does it bother me? Not in the least. If a couple of teens want to catch up with their parents, then I think it is cute that they want to spend time with their 'rents, and I let the nuclear family reform. In the end, at most rides, it does not alter my place in line. A party of two in front of me at Kali Rapids now becomes a party of 4. Mathematically, we are still probably going to get in the same raft that we would have otherwise. Their Pooh Honey Pot will now have four people in it instead of two. My family is going to get our own Honey Pot, so it matters not if the "cutting" family increased their vehicle load by two. And so on. I'm on vacation and I don't need to create a confrontational scene just because my 40 minute wait might get bumped to 40 minutes and 11 seconds. If 20 teens tried to catch up to a group of two just so that they could all be together, I would certianly educate them on what the proper procedure should be under those circumstances. (The two should move back to the 20, instead of the 20 moving ahead to the two). But I have never had that happen to me.

These line cutting discussions are mostly theory over practice. And then, out of nowhere, comes the NextGen Dumbo line system which throws a wrench into the argument of all the people who think that moving in and out of lines somehow impacts their day. The new Dumbo line proves that one need not lock themselves into one place and stare at the butts of those in front of them for 70 minutes in order to protect the sanctity of the linear concept. People can be free to come and go, and then reassemble in an orderly fashion as long as no one gains an advantage over others. The principle works the same for the person who was once ahead of you, leaves to go pee, and then seeks to regain their prior position. At Dumbo, this works just fine since the line is "virtual". But make the line concrete and all of a sudden, people freak out about it. I'll never understand that.

 

[tlkgt76]

OK, for me personally its time to agree to disagree. There's nothing wrong with debating an issue and two people having different opinions on an issue. That's life. I've read a couple comments though that seem to be more of an arrow aimed towards insulting others personally than making valid points.

Its funny to me how one spot in line is to sooooooo important to some that they're willing to let it bother them so deeply, but that's OK. I hope if I ever have to leave for an insulin shot again and politely say "Excuse me" five minutes later as I go back to the same spot I originally started in, that your mind will be so heavily involved in thinking about your family and how lucky you are to be on vacation that you don't notice.

Have fun at Disney everybody.

 

[Peter Fan]

I'll tell you what, I will open my mouth and give you a piece of my mind every time someone like you, who wasn't ever in line in the first place starts pushing their way through line. I won't move, be moved, or stop you from going around me. But at least if you have any sense of decency, fair play, and common courtesy for your fellow man, maybe you wont do the same thing in the next line youre in. Hopefully, while Im calling you out, others in the vicinity will also open their mouths and let you know you need to wait like everyone else.

Where does the thinking come from that some people should have to wait for 45 minutes to get to the point they are at in line, and you (the entitled) should just get to make your way up through the line in a minute because someone you know is up there? Why do you get to ride at the same time as I do or sooner when you haven't made the same sacrifice?

I never said I was a line cutter.

 

[Superspectral]

OK, for me personally its time to agree to disagree. There's nothing wrong with debating an issue and two people having different opinions on an issue. That's life. I've read a couple comments though that seem to be more of an arrow aimed towards insulting others personally than making valid points.

Sayre's law: "In any dispute the intensity of feeling is inversely proportional to the value of the issues at stake."

 

[Granny square]

Sayre's law: "In any dispute the intensity of feeling is inversely proportional to the value of the issues at stake."

So true!

We don't line cut. Lol, we don't stand in lines longer than 20 minutes. We have been here for two weeks and even with the "evil" tour groups haven't had anyone cut in front of us.

So I will continue to say relax. It isn't worth throwing a tizzy over a primarily hypothetical situation.

But I firmly believe that few things are worth fighting others over or confronting. If you hit your kid in front if me I will confront you. If you slip out to tinkle I will just be grateful for a good bladder and other parts.

 

[larryz]

Where does the thinking come from that some people should have to wait for 45 minutes to get to the point they are at in line, and you (the entitled) should just get to make your way up through the line in a minute because someone you know is up there? Why do you get to ride at the same time as I do or sooner when you haven't made the same sacrifice? ...

Thanks, and kungaloosh!

 

[smidgy]

drink time!

 

[Peter Fan]

I'll tell you what, I will open my mouth and give you a piece of my mind every time someone like you, who wasn't ever in line in the first place starts pushing their way through line. I won't move, be moved, or stop you from going around me. But at least if you have any sense of decency, fair play, and common courtesy for your fellow man, maybe you wont do the same thing in the next line youre in. Hopefully, while Im calling you out, others in the vicinity will also open their mouths and let you know you need to wait like everyone else.

Where does the thinking come from that some people should have to wait for 45 minutes to get to the point they are at in line, and you (the entitled) should just get to make your way up through the line in a minute because someone you know is up there? Why do you get to ride at the same time as I do or sooner when you haven't made the same sacrifice?

Because you didn't have a friend holding a spot for you. :drink!

 

[smidgy]

Aren't you saying that your time is more important than anyone elses. That THEY should have to wait "longer" enough though someone could hold their place in the line?
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no, I am saying that everyone's time is EQUALLY important. that is the reason there are lines..we are ALL important! lol. if you have special needs, you can get a GAC. If not, you can plan by using the fastpasses. Or you can wait your turn, just like everyone else.

the old "well everyone won't use a placeholder, so it won't impact your wait" excuse is another way of saying "I'm more important. I can do it and it won't impact your wait. I admit it WILL impact your wait if EVERYONE does it, but I don't want everyone to be entitled to do it.. only me (and a few select others).

 

[smidgy]

Tracie: sorry to see you go.. as I said earlier, someone who needs to leave the line after they are ALREADY in it is no problem for me.. for bathroom and/or other issues.

I guess there are really 3 groups of opinion here. I must be in the middle group. lol

you might want to check into a GAC, though.


ps the rest of you: I just gave you another cue

 

[larryz]

I admit it WILL impact your wait if EVERYONE does it, but I don't want everyone to be entitled to do it.. only me (and a few select others).

I saw what you did there... kungaloosh!

According to the official tequila drinker's t-shirt, I am now invisible.

 

[smidgy]

I saw what you did there... kungaloosh!

According to the official tequila drinker's t-shirt, I am now invisible.

the bartender in me couldn't resist. I'm like Pavlov's dog when it comes to an empty glass on the bar.

 

[alecshawn]

I'm just shocked. Because I am considered Disney Elite, I have never actually waited in a line for more than 10 minutes. Who are these people waiting hours? So no, I have never experienced line cutting. And if you toured smart you would not either.

thats a good point. I ahve never waited very long either...it isnt difficult to plan your day accordingly. After reading this thread....it makes me WANT to cut in line of some poor schmuck that wasted an hour by not planning better...
And, honestly....i have also never encountered any issues like this. But, then again...i probably wouldnt notice. I dont spend my days worrying about others..

 

[Granny square]

So I'm wondering about those of you who think they must confront the evil line people. Are you always so confrontational. Do you battle everyone you disagree with? I always figure dealing with others is like dealing with kids. You learn to pick the battles. I cannot in a million years see the positive in dealing with the world with all the anger. The fact that your angst at others would be so bad that you need to upset others around you without consideration is just plain sad.

 

[Mkrop]

So true!

We don't line cut. Lol, we don't stand in lines longer than 20 minutes. We have been here for two weeks and even with the "evil" tour groups haven't had anyone cut in front of us.

So I will continue to say relax. It isn't worth throwing a tizzy over a primarily hypothetical situation.

But I firmly believe that few things are worth fighting others over or confronting. If you hit your kid in front if me I will confront you. If you slip out to tinkle I will just be grateful for a good bladder and other parts.

Just for the record, I dont spank or hit my kids EVER and I would be angry and appalled if I saw it happening in front of me...but frankly this is none of your business. It doesnt affect you and unless they are pummeling their child, it is not illegal. You should not be confronting anyone of this matter you are not the parent.

 

[Granny square]

Just for the record, I dont spank or hit my kids EVER and I would be angry and appalled if I saw it happening in front of me...but frankly this is none of your business. It doesnt affect you and unless they are pummeling their child, it is not illegal. You should not be confronting anyone of this matter you are not the parent.

Lol, do confronting is ok for line returners by not for hurting a child. Got it.