Cutting in line..

[mom2rtk]

If it was forbidden it would be enforced.

That's probably what that blogger kept telling himself every time he trespassed backstage at Disney to film his videos. "If it's really off limits, they would enforce it."

You know. Right before they banned him for life.

 

[Peter Fan]

That's probably what that blogger kept telling himself every time he trespassed backstage at Disney to film his videos. "If it's really off limits, they would enforce it."

You know. Right before they banned him for life.

And they did didn't they?

 

[KateMW]

I don't think as an adult there is any reason you should rejoin a line once you leave. If I had a medical problem and had to leave the line, I wouldn't try and rejoin it. If I had to use the bathroom, I wouldn't rejoin. I would wait for the rest of the family. Any way you slice it, you have to push past people who are standing in line, and there just isn't really the room to do that. And I think bumping into numerous people as you try to get back to your family is rude.

I completely agree with you. If you need a bathroom break, medicine, etc. why not wait as a group before going in? The solution is not to send one person ahead, do whatever and then try to catch up. Have your family/group wait on you.

 

[larryz]

Exactly! Heed your own advice.

Trust me, I heed my own advice. And I get the point of my post.

 

[Peter Fan]

How do you know there is no rule against it? They don't have signs up stating that I can't drive my car down Main Street, but I am smart enough to know it is against the rules without a sign.

This is one of those common sense things. And as this thread proves common sense is not so common anymore. Done away with by the You First Right After Me crowd.

If you were to drive a car down main st. a cm would stop you because it is against the rules. People cut in line and it is not stopped.

 

[Mkrop]

Welcome to the fantastic world of men's rooms.

okay I will give you that they do move faster than the ladies room

 

[Disney_Princess83]

I think people seem to still be talking about a number of different things and somehow considering them all "line cutting". So let's take WDW out of it entirely and put the examples into a different setting.

1. I go into the grocery store to pick up a few things. There is a 45 minute wait to be served at a check out. I leave my "husband" (or whoever) to wait in line while I pick up my few things. I return to the line and wait to get served. This is NOT line cutting.

2. I go to the grocery store to pick up a few things. There is a 45 minute wait to be served at a check out. I pick up the things and get into the line. After I've been waiting for 25 minutes, I realise that I've forgotten to pick up the milk. I leave my "husband" (or whoever) in the queue and go and pick up the milk. I return to the queue and get served. Again, this is NOT line cutting. Would someone actually leave the line entirely and wait another 45 minutes, after they've already been waiting a substantial amount of time?

3. I go to the grocery store to pick up a few things. There is a 45 minute wait to get served at a check out. I go and pick up my items. When I get to the check out, I push past the 100 people in front of me to get to the front of the line to be served first. This is line cutting!!!!

I guess for me, I'm not prepared to let other people ruin my holiday. I'll never see them again, they've possibly added 30 seconds to my wait time and usually I'm so busy in the line chatting, looking at photos we had taken earlier, planning our next attraction, I don't even really notice, let alone care! I'm sorry that people feel the need to act as CM's and physically stop people from getting past them. Is it really THAT important that you get on a ride 30 seconds faster?

 

[Disney_Princess83]

Honestly I have the answer to the question why people can't wait in lines. I just got a note from my DS's 3rd grade teacher. It seems DS created a problem b/c 2 kids wanted to cut the line in front of him. DS told them to get to the back of the line, the 2 kids said no. The teacher asked me why my son gets so upset about "little things that shouldn't bother him"
Yup 2 kids cut the line and mine is the trouble maker for pointing it out
Entitlement starts pretty young.

I don't think it's so much your child was considered the "troublemaker" but does anyone really want to teach their children that they should get bothered and cause issues over something so small? Shouldn't the general idea be "Don't Sweat the Small Stuff?" I'd hate to get bothered and upset over every tiny thing that happened, it would be a nightmare!

 

[Suellen]

Couple of things (though I think grocery store to theme park is not apples to apples.)

1. If your husband isn't with you do you leave basket alone and run to get something? And not expect people to go around your waiting basket?

2. Why not have someone wait in the line and then "rejoin" with a full basket of groceries.

This is definitely cutting in my book and not something I would EVER do.

 

[angelmichelle]

I think people seem to still be talking about a number of different things and somehow considering them all "line cutting". So let's take WDW out of it entirely and put the examples into a different setting.

1. I go into the grocery store to pick up a few things. There is a 45 minute wait to be served at a check out. I leave my "husband" (or whoever) to wait in line while I pick up my few things. I return to the line and wait to get served. This is NOT line cutting.

2. I go to the grocery store to pick up a few things. There is a 45 minute wait to be served at a check out. I pick up the things and get into the line. After I've been waiting for 25 minutes, I realise that I've forgotten to pick up the milk. I leave my "husband" (or whoever) in the queue and go and pick up the milk. I return to the queue and get served. Again, this is NOT line cutting. Would someone actually leave the line entirely and wait another 45 minutes, after they've already been waiting a substantial amount of time?

3. I go to the grocery store to pick up a few things. There is a 45 minute wait to get served at a check out. I go and pick up my items. When I get to the check out, I push past the 100 people in front of me to get to the front of the line to be served first. This is line cutting!!!!

I guess for me, I'm not prepared to let other people ruin my holiday. I'll never see them again, they've possibly added 30 seconds to my wait time and usually I'm so busy in the line chatting, looking at photos we had taken earlier, planning our next attraction, I don't even really notice, let alone care! I'm sorry that people feel the need to act as CM's and physically stop people from getting past them. Is it really THAT important that you get on a ride 30 seconds faster?

 

[Disney_Princess83]

Couple of things (though I think grocery store to theme park is not apples to apples.)

1. If your husband isn't with you do you leave basket alone and run to get something? And not expect people to go around your waiting basket?

I've done this and had other people do the same thing. They're in the line, realise they forget something. They ask if it's alright if they can go and grab it and I'll mind their spot. I always say yes. To me it's just courtesy and being polite. If they're already in the line (especially if it's LONG) then why they should have to go back and start all over again.

One of the best things I ever read was a paper on "morals". It was from a Psychology point of view. It said that most people get angry when others don't act how they would act themselves. Most people say "Oh I wouldn't do that." It was so amazingly true. Just because you "don't" do something, doesn't mean that others shouldn't, don't, or can't. At the end of the day you cannot control what other people do. You can control your own actions and you can control how you feel about them. If you constantly expect others to act how you want them to, you're in for a life time of anger, disappointment and heartache.

 

[smidgy]

I think people seem to still be talking about a number of different things and somehow considering them all "line cutting". So let's take WDW out of it entirely and put the examples into a different setting.

1. I go into the grocery store to pick up a few things. There is a 45 minute wait to be served at a check out. I leave my "husband" (or whoever) to wait in line while I pick up my few things. I return to the line and wait to get served. This is NOT line cutting.

2. I go to the grocery store to pick up a few things. There is a 45 minute wait to be served at a check out. I pick up the things and get into the line. After I've been waiting for 25 minutes, I realise that I've forgotten to pick up the milk. I leave my "husband" (or whoever) in the queue and go and pick up the milk. I return to the queue and get served. Again, this is NOT line cutting. Would someone actually leave the line entirely and wait another 45 minutes, after they've already been waiting a substantial amount of time?

3. I go to the grocery store to pick up a few things. There is a 45 minute wait to get served at a check out. I go and pick up my items. When I get to the check out, I push past the 100 people in front of me to get to the front of the line to be served first. This is line cutting!!!!

I guess for me, I'm not prepared to let other people ruin my holiday. I'll never see them again, they've possibly added 30 seconds to my wait time and usually I'm so busy in the line chatting, looking at photos we had taken earlier, planning our next attraction, I don't even really notice, let alone care! I'm sorry that people feel the need to act as CM's and physically stop people from getting past them. Is it really THAT important that you get on a ride 30 seconds faster?

your analogy is not applicable. totally dif. situation.

who said it "ruins" my holiday? you, not me. and you keep saying 30 seconds, even though that isn't true either.


just because you say something isn't line cutting, doesn't make it so. I say it is line cutting, as do others.

as I stated earlier, I personally don't mind someone leaving to go to the bathroom,e tc. but having a "placeholder" while the rest of the groupdoesn't get in line, but uses the bathroom, gets something to eat, rides, rides, rests, whatever, is basically saying your time is more important that everyone elses.

when I stated that if everyone did this, the wait time would multiply, it was said that that is extreme, because that wouldn't happen.

the reason that wouldn't happen, is most people are considerate enough NOT to do that. If we all thought it was ok to do, we all would do it! after all all of OUR time is just as important as that families' time (the family that uses a placehodler).

and, if it was ok, and therefore we ALL did it, the stated wait time would increase exponentially when all of the rest of the multiple groups showed up.

it is line cutting, and it's just plain inconsiderate.

 

[Baliezer]

I completely agree with you. If you need a bathroom break, medicine, etc. why not wait as a group before going in? The solution is not to send one person ahead, do whatever and then try to catch up. Have your family/group wait on you.

Because four year old's wait until you have already been standing in line for some time, to let you know they need to go potty now.

On the subject of cast members, I have had cast members let me back into the line with my family, when I have had to quickly exit to take my four year old to the bathroom.

 

[ryalluvdiz]

Because four year old's wait until you have already been standing in line for some time, to let you know they need to go potty now.

On the subject of cast members, I have had cast members let me back into the line with my family, when I have had to quickly exit to take my four year old to the bathroom.

Agreed about the four year olds bathroom issues. It is really disturbing to me that someone has a problem with ANYONE, not just a kid, leaving the line to use the bathroom and return.... Seriously isnt there more important things to be angry about?

 

[Disney_Princess83]

your analogy is not applicable. totally dif. situation.

your analogy is not applicable. totally dif. situation.

I didn't say it was identical but sorry it actually is the exact some principle. It is still about waiting in a line.

who said it "ruins" my holiday? you, not me. and you keep saying 30 seconds, even though that isn't true either.

Since I don't know you personally, I can't say that it ruins your holiday. However when I see people want to make a huge deal over it, get a CM involve, physically stop people from getting past you, I don't think people would be enjoying themselves. I've also seen so many posts where this sort of thing has happened to them during their holiday and two weeks later, they jump on the Dis and post about it. They've been thinking about it for 10 days + after the event?

If 1-2 people jump in front of me, it means they will be in the ride cart before mine. That WILL add 30 seconds to 1 minute to my wait time, no more.

just because you say something isn't line cutting, doesn't make it so. I say it is line cutting, as do others.

Just because YOU say it's line cutting, doesn't make it so!

as I stated earlier, I personally don't mind someone leaving to go to the bathroom,e tc. but having a "placeholder" while the rest of the group doesn't get in line, but uses the bathroom, gets something to eat, rides, rides, rests, whatever, is basically saying your time is more important that everyone elses.

Aren't you saying that your time is more important than anyone elses. That THEY should have to wait "longer" enough though someone could hold their place in the line?

when I stated that if everyone did this, the wait time would multiply, it was said that that is extreme, because that wouldn't happen.the reason that wouldn't happen, is most people are considerate enough NOT to do that. If we all thought it was ok to do, we all would do it! after all all of OUR time is just as important as that families' time (the family that uses a placehodler).
and, if it was ok, and therefore we ALL did it, the stated wait time would increase exponentially when all of the rest of the multiple groups showed up.

I guess for me personally, I simply can't be bothered being so invested in what others should be doing. I'm not a CM, I'm not the rule police either. I do what I think is right. That doesn't include physically stopping people from joining their group (and no offence, what a great thing to teach your children! If you don't like what someone else is doing, physically stop them. At the end of the day, most people don't put a place holder in line. I think I've only seen it once or twice and I couldn't care less. Not my problem, and they've actually done nothing to "harm" me, they've added to my wait time for 30 seconds. If you don't want to spend anytime in a line, why exactly did you book a holiday to WDW?

it is line cutting, and it's just plain inconsiderate.

Again, that is your opinion. Which you are entitled to, as am I and everyone else. I'm not the only one who said it isn't line cutting.

Reading this thread, I'am so thankful I enjoy WDW so much, I don't worry about what everyone else is doing. If I was doing that, I may as well stay at home!

 

[SamSam]

Is say most people do use the rr before embarking on and adventure. But as they say "stuff happens." If daddy has waited for 45 minutes in line to rude pp with his daughter for the first time and gets hit with a stomach issue, if never want him not to catch back up and ride with her. Only a crabby nasty person would want less so they didn't have scoot over for two seconds.

This! Please everyone, most people have already visited the rr before getting in line. If they've waited in line, but suddenly have a 'gotta go' moment,would you really want everyone in thier party to exit with them! Unbelievable! Some people have medical issues, even if they visit the rr on a regular basis they can be 'hit' with an urgency that cannot be ignored.

I don't like line cutters, but someone that has been in line and then has to exit for an 'emergency' is totally different to me.

 

[Disney_Princess83]

This! Please everyone, most people have already visited the rr before getting in line. If they've waited in line, but suddenly have a 'gotta go' moment,would you really want everyone in thier party to exit with them! Unbelievable! Some people have medical issues, even if they visit the rr on a regular basis they can be 'hit' with an urgency that cannot be ignored.

It's funny that no one is complaining when a group of 4-5 want to leave the queue and have to "push and shove" past people to get OUT. Is that because people think they've gained the 30 seconds in the queue by people exiting it?

 

[cymbaldiva]

If you were to drive a car down main st. a cm would stop you because it is against the rules. People cut in line and it is not stopped.

Dumbest analogy ever - thanks for the interesting mental picture though

 

[maxiesmom]

If it was forbidden it would be enforced.

No it wouldn't. Smoking outside of the designated areas is a perfect example. You see a lot of people doing so, and yet don't often see a CM make them stop. Just because someone gets away with doing something, that doesn't mean it is fine with Disney.

 

[fan1080]

Disney allows line cutting.

If you don't like it, go somewhere else.

I don't know if there are other theme parks or amusement parks that allow line cutting, but other than Disney, I've never been to one.

Not in my experience.

Teenagers in front of us at RnRC a couple years ago called in a few friends to join them in line. We were about 15 minutes into the line at that point, and a lady behind us told them she was going to report them if they didn't leave the line. Shouting ensued, with very unflattering words being thrown at the lady. She finally had enough and went out to get a CM. CM confronts the "gentlemen", who proceed to treated her just as bad as they were treating the lady they were having the "discussion" with. They had no intention of leaving the line. After about 5 minutes of them bad mouthing the CM and lady behind me, I leaned in and let them know that if they waited until security arrived, there was a good chance they would be escorted out of the park for the night. Soon after all 5 of them decided it would be better to leave the line.

While it may not be enforced nearly enough, line cutting in not "allowed" by Disney, in my experience. Maybe they have changed their policy since, but I doubt it would be a blanket, line cutting is acceptable policy.