Cutting in Line

[bellaprincess98]

Don't mind and have done it. I might get flamed but I will be honest. I don't mind if it's one person. What I mind is when one person waits in line while others ride another ride and then join them in the line. We were in line for RnR before and there were two people in front of us. All of a sudden, 15 people (no exaggeration) came and cut in line right in front of us to join them. That, I have a problem with. The other time I think it is "acceptable" is when a little one has to use the bathroom. I have saved a spot in line when a mother and daughter had to do this.

I totally agree. Its the "groups" of people cutting thats a problem, not one person trying to get to his party. Honestly, he/she could be on their way back from the bathroom, getting a drink, or getting fast passes... there is no way to tell.

 

[TinkerBelle_325]

To the OP, I agree that the tactic is line cutting and I think its rude.

When my family and I are getting FP for popular attractions, such as Soarin or TSM, one person gets the FP and the others wait *near* the entrance to the attraction.

Guess I'm guilty of being a "line cutter" then too! Have done it several times, and have to agree, it's not a big deal - nor is it technically "cutting in line".

But it is cutting in line. Wait time is determined by the number of people not the number of parties. If every person getting a FP had the rest of their party waiting in the line and then proceeded to join them it could add 30 minutes, an hour + etc to the wait time of a ride.

I don't see the problem if it's one person meeting their party. Unless he/she is not riding with their party, it isn't going to cause you to wait longer.

But that's the thing, technically it isn't just one person. For example, the FP line for TSM is typically 15 minutes itself first thing in the morning. Lets say the standby wait is 30 minutes at 9:15, and the 15 minutes worth of people who just got FPs go and "joins their parties" that makes the wait time 45 minutes!

 

[FlightlessDuck]

I don't think one person jumping ahead is a big deal if it doesn't mean the group takes up another ride vehicle.

But it's still cutting in line.

 

[polineedyan]

Line jumping in my book is inexcusable. I had a coffee, no coffee in the laugh floor, i missed the show while the kids and wife watched it.
My theory is that if you have something more important to do than wait in line, youre not ready to view or ride the attraction. If you must ride with someone in your party, have them wait.

 

[TinkerBelle_325]

I totally agree. Its the "groups" of people cutting thats a problem, not one person trying to get to his party. Honestly, he/she could be on their way back from the bathroom, getting a drink, or getting fast passes... there is no way to tell.

I never quite understood this mentality. If leave a line, you leave your place in line. I was always taught that you use the facilities, get a drink/snack etc before you join a line. You aren't entitled to that spot once you vacate it.

Here's an example of how that kind of method could be taken advantage of:

In May, I had a 12:30 ADR for Le Cellier. At 11:45 we got in line for the Seas with Nemo and Friends, which had a 5 minute wait posted. I figured we had to be at Le Cellier about 12:15, so that gave us 30 minutes to ride and to walk over. Plenty of time, right? Wrong

As we got in line, we noticed numerous parties of 1 catching up with the rest of their group. They had obviously gone to get FP for Soarin, Test Track etc.

20 minutes in, we were only halfway through the line! So it was 12:05, and you are supposed to show up for ADRs a few minutes early. We were a 5 minute walk from Le Cellier....so that meant we had to be out of there in, 10 minutes! Does that give me the right to push past the others in line in front of me? If the wait timr had been correct I would have been off the ride by 11:55 and been at Le Cellier in plenty of time. But because of those line cutters the wait was extended dramatically and went ended up at Le Cellier at 12:45.

Thankfully they still accomodated us, but it definitely inconvenienced us!

 

[pixarmom]

TSM has a sign and CM's making announcements - have all of your party together before you get in line. We noticed it last trip and were glad. That ride was particularly obnoxious for line cutters who were catching up to their party after getting fast passes.

Everyone says one person catching up to their party woudn't bother them. What was happening at TSM was about 100 persons catching up to their parties - pushing their way past people. It was very annoying to those patiently waiting in line.

It is line cutting no matter how you justify it. But those who are going to do it, will do it anyhow. I personally can't imagine pushing past a bunch of people who have been patiently waiting just for convenience. It is rude.

Agreed. I hadn't given it much thought until reading this thread, but I didn't like adult FP runners pushing past my family (including our very excited pre-schooler) in early morning lines at TSM last week. We rode first and then grabbed two FPs afterwards so that our pre-schooler could ride with one of us again later in the day.

 

[Goofy'slady]

Sorry but this wouldn't bother me if it were one person or a parent and a small child coming back from a bathroom run. I have a 4yr old and I could soooo see this happening to us next month that I'm already making my apologies. Now if it's a full blown touring size group than that's something entirely different in and of itself.

I would so be annoyed and may be prompted to say something to them especially if they were rude about it.

T.

 

[tiredsigh]

I never quite understood this mentality. If leave a line, you leave your place in line. I was always taught that you use the facilities, get a drink/snack etc before you join a line. You aren't entitled to that spot once you vacate it.

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I guess that stinks for me. My bladder is over half scarred over on the inside. I have had a bladder disease that causes ulcers in my bladder. As the ulcers scar over, I lose elasticity and the ability to tell sometimes that I have to go to the bathroom until I HAVE TO GO.

*I* don't enter the line for any rides within an hour of an ADR. Why? Just as many people say that the 120 minute wait was wrong and was only 45 minutes sometimes, the 5 minute wait isn't always 5 minutes. You take your chances.

At Nemo, several people share a shell. The "numerous" singles entering the line must have all taken up their own shell or bumped the family to use an extra shell. You description didn't say. But, the numerous singles all got fastpasses to soarin, etc. so I guess you were able to see them all close enough to see or hear about the Fastpasses so they must have been seen taking up an extra shell.

 

[bouncy54]

On our second trip to the world, we hit epcot at rope drop, i scooted ahead of my wife and kids to get fps for soaring, i told my wife to wait at the entrance to the line for me to catch up, they actually got on line and by the time i got her on the walkie talkie they were about a 1/3 of the way down the line.

I told them to wait right there, let folks pass and I caught up with then in a few minutes. It didnt seem right to force my way through the line

I let people behind me go ahead of me all the time. I'm a very sl-o-ow walker when going through the queues! Drives my family nuts, but we still get on the ride. I drive the same way.

As for line jumpers, I have no problem if it's only one person.

 

[PIRATEGIRL007]

I never quite understood this mentality. If leave a line, you leave your place in line. I was always taught that you use the facilities, get a drink/snack etc before you join a line. You aren't entitled to that spot once you vacate it.

6 posts before someone brings up small children can hold it or some other 'acceptable' reason to get in and out of line. etc anyone wanna bet?

 

[Indiana Rose Lee]

6 posts before someone brings up small children can hold it or some other 'acceptable' reason to get in and out of line. etc anyone wanna bet?

So, is mocking those that have compassion for small children always your thing? Interesting. Not nice, but interesting.

I'd far rather know people who are kind, and not anal enough to be fussing about such stuff.

 

[PIRATEGIRL007]

So, is mocking those that have compassion for small children always your thing? Interesting. Not nice, but interesting.

I'd far rather know people who are kind, and not anal enough to be fussing about such stuff.

This has nothing to do with compassion for young children. I dont think a child or anyone else deserves me to show a feeling of deep sympathy and sorrow for another who is stricken by misfortune, accompanied by a strong desire to alleviate the suffering. It's a potty break and waiting in a line at Disney, they aren't starving to death or physically being harmed.

I have 2 children, starting taking them when they are 3 but I don't play the 'kid card'. Never have never will, not my style.

 

[jj1403]

If it's one person out of a group I really don't think it matters. I wouldn't let it ruin my day!

 

[jthornton94]

We've "sorta" done it. Last year DH went for FP at Soarin while we waited for test track. I wouldn't go any further than the actual entrance to the building/podium. So several times me and another lady whose husband was doing the same thing would get out of line and go to the end. We must have went back to the end 10 times before our husband's showed up. But, we never went beyond the pint where my dh would have had to squeeze by anyone. Does that make sense?

And as for the bathroom, I have young children. I would never tell another parent, too bad, go to the end of the line. Life's to short. I wish I could teach my children better bladder control, LOL. But I agree with everyone else. If it's one person returning with FP, or a parent taking a kid to the bathroom, not a big deal.

 

[ValinWV]

One person catching up to their family wouldn't bother me. Neither would a parent and a small child, as small children often need to potty at the worst times. I would hate for a family to have to wait even longer because mommy or daddy had to take a little one to the restroom.

 

[memster]

Don't mind and have done it. I might get flamed but I will be honest. I don't mind if it's one person. What I mind is when one person waits in line while others ride another ride and then join them in the line. We were in line for RnR before and there were two people in front of us. All of a sudden, 15 people (no exaggeration) came and cut in line right in front of us to join them. That, I have a problem with. The other time I think it is "acceptable" is when a little one has to use the bathroom. I have saved a spot in line when a mother and daughter had to do this.

I agree with you on this one

 

[itchin2go]

It's line cutting. I don't do it. Not for fastpasses. Not for restroom issues. Not for snacks. If my daughter has to go to the bathroom while we're in line, we get out of the line.

I won't cuss someone who cuts in front of me, but I will roll my eyes.

 

[bwilcox]

I'm jumping in here against my better judgement!
I think in the situation the OP stated, it is ethically wrong for the FP runner to catch up with their family, but at the same time, it wouldn't bother me that much. As for bathroom breaks: you will see the person leave the line and then re-enter, therefore, you know they had some kind of emergency and are not just cutting. It wouldn't bother me for children or adults. I personally wouldn't re-enter the line if I had to leave-it would be too embarassing to have to push past all those people, some of them glaring at you.

 

[mickeyluv'r]

On a recent trip, even though parks were pretty quiet, I saw blatent more line cutters than I've ever seen. I was shocked. I'm not talking about OP's situation - I'm talking whole parties blatently cutting lines. I think some attractions are easier than others, but honestly, it's kind of hard to stop them unless Disney does. You really need your whole group keeping them from passing. Some attractions one person could block, but not others. I would hope Disney does somethign when they see this. If not, it makes WDW a far less fun place.

I also saw a fair number of folks storm the 3-d shows. It was odd and silly.
I DO think Disney needs to go back to reminding guests to, "move across the row and fill in all seats." They don't really do this any more and it shows in guests' behavior.

 

[Suellen]

Wouldn't personally do it as I think *pushing* or *squeezing* my way through a crowded line is rude and it makes me feel uncomfortable to do it. Just as if my 4 year old had to go potty DH or I would take her and then get back in line at the end and wait our turn OR we just wouldn't do that ride and wait for the others.

That being said.... it doesn't bother me if someone else does it.

And I agree.... this thread should blow up within the next 24 hours.

**I DO agree with sending just ONE person to get the FP though**