Cruise and Theme Park Operational Updates due to Coronavirus

[SaintsManiac]

I do like Seuss Landing!

It's especially cute with the Christmas decorations up!

 

[yulilin3]

I've said this many times Disney has been slowly but surely getting rid of things without replacement, parades, shows, entertainment, perks, for many many years now.
If you weren't a fan or never really did SotMK it might not seem like a big loss personally until you are at MK and those people that would've been playing SotMK are instead in line in front of you for an attraction, or food or a store. That's the direct impact.
What makes the parks magical or worth return visits is very personal but no one can deny the impact these cuts keep having on the overall experience

 

[Farro]

I am not trying to convince you it is leaving - just putting out there that if it is something you didn't know about/care about leaving of course you won't be impacted by that specific move. But at some point their might be something that does impact you

and this does impact others and why they are feeling the way they do

It could happen, but I doubt it. I even adjusted to ridiculous price increases! I'm incredibly, annoyingly positive in my outlook.

You keep telling me it impacts others and I already said I get that, not even questioning it. Of course it does.

 

[TheMaxRebo]

Just remember that people will always be making that first trip and they would never have known about SOTMK. And they will have a good time.

And I love Wizarding World, but I could leave the rest of Universal. Just give me Hard Rock Hotel and WW. I'm good with that. Anyone looking for "magic" outside of those lands might be disappointed.

yeah, and I am not even proposing I will never go back to Disney again, far from it ... just that my "pull" to the parks is going down with all these changes/eliminations/etc.

also mindful I am in a bit of a punchy mood this morning because of [looks around] everything so might be coming out in my posts

 

[fatmanatee]

Not as familiar with Sorcerers but this seems like a big misfire, definitely something that would have appealed to me if it was available when I was a kid.

 

[jade1]

But at some point their might be something that does impact you

Almost spit my coffee with what's happened/currently happening with WDW this year.

 

[Farro]

Uh oh....

Just read on another site about a new survey being sent to recent guests of Animal Kingdom....part of the survey focused on Dinoland, Asia and Front of Park - asking about overall experience, cast member interaction and cleanliness. Then questions about experience on Dinosaur and Everest.

Sure hope they aren't planning on closing certain parts of parks or anything.

 

[SaintsManiac]

Uh oh....

Just read on another site about a new survey being sent to recent guests of Animal Kingdom....part of the survey focused on Dinoland, Asia and Front of Park - asking about overall experience, cast member interaction and cleanliness. Then questions about experience on Dinosaur and Everest.

Sure hope they aren't planning on closing certain parts of parks or anything.

I just read that, too. I always find the survey reports interesting.

 

[Farro]

I just read that, too. I always find the survey reports interesting.

Some of the questions were about if your experience was affected by lack of night time shows, magic hours, fast passes...maybe just gauging how everyone is feeling.

 

[TheMaxRebo]

Some of the questions were about if your experience was affected by lack of night time shows, magic hours, fast passes...maybe just gauging how everyone is feeling.

I think it is more that - especially as the answers were just "positive impact", "no impact", "negative impact" ... I think they are just trying to see which elements are people feeling not having is negatively impacting the most

as to the focus on the specific areas, I think hard to conclude anything from one survey ... someone else may have gotten a survey that asked jsut about the other areas of the park just to keep the survey from being too long they may split it up a bit

 

[Eric Smith]

Just remember that people will always be making that first trip and they would never have known about SOTMK. And they will have a good time.

And I love Wizarding World, but I could leave the rest of Universal. Just give me Hard Rock Hotel and WW. I'm good with that. Anyone looking for "magic" outside of those lands might be disappointed.

I agree about Wizarding World (specifically Diagon Alley). We only go to Universal for one day if we go because we pretty much only care to do the Harry Potter stuff. We'll still ride Hulk and the Mummy but neither of those take too much time.

We'll never ride Kong again. I don't want to go through a haunted house before a ride and it's really just a car driving through a cylindrical screen which is technologically impressive, but still not all that great.

 

[rpb718]

These types of losses really make it clear that the "magic" of WDW is certainly unique to each individual.

We didn't even know this existed, so losing this game has no impact on our magic. For example, for us part of the magic is staying at the resorts, while for others, they never stay at WDW resorts and still feel the magic.

Touring styles at WDW evolve over time. Most folks when they begin going to WDW are all about the rides and possibly all the M&Gs, don't do shows eat just at CS/QS and not much else. After a while, folks are looking for other things to do - like exploring resorts and TS places, checking out the shows, doing vip tours, maybe pin trading and collecting pressed pennies, looking at festival activities and parties. Eventually you get around to appreciating all the little things or areas in the parks that you use to ignore: the piano player on main street, the trolley, the train and stations, various streetmosphere, the orchestra at the GF, various shows, checking out the architecture and theming, Yeeha Bob, searching for hidden mickeys, drummers and juggler and music from bands coming from Canada or the UK pavilions, hearing san - ni - ichi at pick-a-pearl in Mitsukoshi and yes - SotMK. Do you believe that your touring style for the parks and resorts now will be the exactly the same in 10, 20 or 30 years? I'm here to tell you no.

A lot of stuff is gone, and possibly much gone forever before the next generation of park goers even get a chance to find and enjoy. I don't care who here cares for what, or doesn't. I certainly don't care for some attractions or shows that others are passionate about. What I guess I want to say is as long as someone other than me cares for something and calls it magic - that's enough.

 

[Farro]

Touring styles at WDW evolve over time. Most folks when they begin going to WDW are all about the rides and possibly all the M&Gs, don't do shows eat just at CS/QS and not much else. After a while, folks are looking for other things to do - like exploring resorts and TS places, checking out the shows, doing vip tours, maybe pin trading and collecting pressed pennies, looking at festival activities and parties. Eventually you get around to appreciating all the little things or areas in the parks that you use to ignore: the piano player on main street, the trolley, the train and stations, various streetmosphere, the orchestra at the GF, various shows, checking out the architecture and theming, Yeeha Bob, searching for hidden mickeys, drummers and juggler and music from bands coming from Canada or the UK pavilions, hearing san - ni - ichi at pick-a-pearl in Mitsukoshi and yes - SotMK. Do you believe that everything you do and enjoy in the parks and resorts now will be the exactly the same in 30 years? I'm here to tell you no.

A lot of stuff is gone, and possibly much gone forever before the next generation of park goers even get a chance to find and enjoy. I don't care who here cares for what, or doesn't. I certainly don't care for some attractions or shows that others are passionate about. What I guess I want to say is as long as someone other than me cares for something and calls it magic - that's enough.

If the bolded question was to me specifically? I've been going to WDW as a child since before Epcot opened. I'm used to changes.

 

[rpb718]

If the bolded question was to me specifically? I've been going to WDW as a child since before Epcot opened. I'm used to changes.

I meant to say:

Do you believe that your touring style for the parks and resorts now will be the exactly the same in 10, 20 or 30 years?

I was editing but you caught me before I could save it.

 

[Farro]

I meant to say:

Do you believe that your touring style for the parks and resorts now will be the exactly the same in 10, 20 or 30 years?

I was editing but you caught me before I could save it.

Obviously it's changed since I was 10 and now I'm 47.

Magic is still there for me!

Again, I'll never understand why people need to tell me one day I'll lose the magic when I'm not trying to convince them that's it's still there. All I said in my original post is seeing people upset about different things makes us realize everyone has their own unique magic at Disney.

Could it happen? Sure. But I'm not going to dwell on it, because why?

 

[SaintsManiac]

Obviously it's changed since I was 10 and now I'm 47.

Magic is still there for me!

Again, I'll never understand why people need to tell me one day I'll lose the magic when I'm not trying to convince them that's it's still there.

Could it happen? Sure. But I'm not going to dwell on it, because why?

Couldn't agree more. I think most of the grumbling comes from people who go much more than you or I do, but idk. I stopped following a lot of the whiners on Twitter.

 

[jlwhitney]

These types of losses really make it clear that the "magic" of WDW is certainly unique to each individual.

We didn't even know this existed, so losing this game has no impact on our magic. For example, for us part of the magic is staying at the resorts, while for others, they never stay at WDW resorts and still feel the magic.

We have don't SOTMK but honestly its hit or miss for us. Its fun when we think of it but the running all over the park gets exhausting.

right, but this is just one of the things being removed ... what if the next thing is something you care very much about but others didn't realize it existed?

It usually isn't any one thing, but a trend it may signify that is more my concern

Things are always changing, some go others come in time more new things will start coming back.

I've said this many times Disney has been slowly but surely getting rid of things without replacement, parades, shows, entertainment, perks, for many many years now.
If you weren't a fan or never really did SotMK it might not seem like a big loss personally until you are at MK and those people that would've been playing SotMK are instead in line in front of you for an attraction, or food or a store. That's the direct impact.
What makes the parks magical or worth return visits is very personal but no one can deny the impact these cuts keep having on the overall experience

They really have. Honestly SOTMK doesn't surprise me, when it first started there were always lines at all the portals then over time it got less and less busy, half the time when we tried to do it a portal or two was even closed. It really hurt the experience for us when they closed the liberty square spot to get cards/started since it made it that much harder and more running around. We did enjoy it but for whatever reason Disney didn't really invest in it. Had they updated the villains and brought out new cards (even make the new cards ones you pay for) would have kept it fresh and alive for more.

 

[Tandy]

I meant to say:

Do you believe that your touring style for the parks and resorts now will be the exactly the same in 10, 20 or 30 years?

I was editing but you caught me before I could save it.

Change is one thing.. eliminations without replacement is another. That's the bummer part.
Every day is another elimination (attraction, event, hours, etc... )

 

[fatmanatee]

They really have. Honestly SOTMK doesn't surprise me, when it first started there were always lines at all the portals then over time it got less and less busy, half the time when we tried to do it a portal or two was even closed. It really hurt the experience for us when they closed the liberty square spot to get cards/started since it made it that much harder and more running around. We did enjoy it but for whatever reason Disney didn't really invest in it. Had they updated the villains and brought out new cards (even make the new cards ones you pay for) would have kept it fresh and alive for more.

This is something I was wondering about... it would definitely make sense to do something new with it, given the fact that it's 8-9 years old. I think there's room to grow this further but it sounds like the two possibilities are that 1. they don't refresh it at all, it's done or (optimistically) 2. they shift to digital only for a refresh, which kills a major part of the appeal for this (the card collecting).

 

[rpb718]

Obviously it's changed since I was 10 and now I'm 47.

Magic is still there for me!

Again, I'll never understand why people need to tell me one day I'll lose the magic when I'm not trying to convince them that's it's still there. All I said in my original post is seeing people upset about different things makes us realize everyone has their own unique magic at Disney.

Could it happen? Sure. But I'm not going to dwell on it, because why?

I don't see anyone saying you'll eventually lose the magic. And I'm just saying that your perception of what makes the magic will evolve over time.

You're still a youngling. Poo-pooing other's loss of an element of WDW that contributed to their perception of magic is not the way forward.

I won't get into my age, but unless someone has had a recent birthday I believe I will be twice the age of Mit88 this year.

P.S. I like Seuss Landing too.