Cruise and Theme Park Operational Updates due to Coronavirus

[SaintsManiac]

I don't think they will mandate vaccines because the vaccine is more to protect that individual (plus there is the question of how available it will be fore some time, etc.)

Masks are different as the main benefit from them is protecting others and is something tangible Disney can do to demonstrate they are protecting guests/guest safety

So I think the bigger discussion will be around when they stop mandating masks, and I suspect they will require them for a lot longer than some people thing they should - but again, it is to help protect others, perhaps those not able to get a vaccine

I’m prepared to wear them next thanksgiving.

 

[TheMaxRebo]

I think if hours are back to normal, capacity can increase due to less social distancing required, at least outdoors, night shows can come back, park hopping (please)...masks may become much more doable for some people.

and I can totally see that happening ... a lot more coming back BEFORE masks go away

 

[Sarahslay]

FERPA most definitely covers immunization and other medical records held by schools receiving federal funds.

You’re right, I had to go find the document that outlines the definitely of “school documents”, I only deal with the healthcare side of things and HIPPA at work so we don’t have to know that stuff in great detail (and HIPPA doesn’t apply to schools since they aren’t a medical facility).

 

[Brianstl]

The arguments against and some of the reason they won’t are reminiscent of why Disney won’t be able to force mask usage and why they won’t even try or it won’t last.

They did force it. They even did it without exceptions, despite all the conversations about how people with X, Y, or Z couldn’t wear them. For the most part it’s worked beautifully.

I don’t have an issue with Disney’s mask policy. I think it is the right policy. Also, Disney would be perfectly within their right to institute a vaccine policy. I am just sort of surprised how many people are just willing to freely offer up any of their medical privacy to a corporation that is under no obligation to not sell or share the information in any other way.

 

[Pyotr]

I don't think they will mandate vaccines because the vaccine is more to protect that individual (plus there is the question of how available it will be fore some time, etc.)

Masks are different as the main benefit from them is protecting others and is something tangible Disney can do to demonstrate they are protecting guests/guest safety

So I think the bigger discussion will be around when they stop mandating masks, and I suspect they will require them for a lot longer than some people thing they should - but again, it is to help protect others, perhaps those not able to get a vaccine

Once a vaccine is widely available, and anyone can get one if they want, the responsibility is on the person. I don’t think it should be on Disney to continue restrictions if a handful of anti vaccination people refuse to protect themselves.

 

[Mit88]

I’m prepared to wear them next thanksgiving.

It’ll be the last thing to go, especially at Disney. I even see M&G’s requiring masks for guests when they return, and that should be a fun topic of discussion here.

At least for Disney I think they’re going to want to see a full year of effectiveness from the vaccine before they allow masks to come off.

Just my opinion

 

[skeeter31]

It’ll be the last thing to go, especially at Disney. I even see M&G’s requiring masks for guests when they return, and that should be a fun topic of discussion here.

At least for Disney I think they’re going to want to see a full year of effectiveness from the vaccine before they allow masks to come off.

Just my opinion

Completely agree. I don’t see Disney removing mask mandate until 2022 at the earliest. Maybe, just maybe, allowing no masks at outdoor areas of resorts sometime near the middle to end of 21, but most likely not because relaxing it, even a little, makes it so much harder to enforce.

Then adding on the restrictions that will still be in effect for DL, I don’t see WDW loosening too much when the other park would still be required to have them.

I agree with the year of vaccine idea. Whenever the vaccine is widely available, a year from that date is when Disney will most likely loosen their mask mandate.

 

[SaintsManiac]

It’ll be the last thing to go, especially at Disney. I even see M&G’s requiring masks for guests when they return, and that should be a fun topic of discussion here.

At least for Disney I think they’re going to want to see a full year of effectiveness from the vaccine before they allow masks to come off.

Just my opinion

I agree and it's one of the main reasons why we moved our trip to a more temperate time of year. I don't want to wear them during the summer.

 

[TheMaxRebo]

Once a vaccine is widely available, and anyone can get one if they want, the responsibility is on the person. I don’t think it should be on Disney to continue restrictions if a handful of anti vaccination people refuse to protect themselves.

I think we will have to see the specifics of any vaccine - for some there are people that have allergies or other reasons they can't get it, not that they choose not to get it .... but yes, at some point Disney will remove mask requirements but I think it likely will be much later than some (many?) people think they should/could

 

[DGsAtBLT]

I don’t have an issue with Disney’s mask policy. I think it is the right policy. Also, Disney would be perfectly within their right to institute a vaccine policy. I am just sort of surprised how many people are just willing to freely offer up any of their medical privacy to a corporation that is under no obligation to not sell or share the information in any other way.

Disney has tons of information about me and my family. I’m not overly concerned with them knowing that we received Covid vaccines should it come down to that.

Anyways to the larger conversation, I think it’s just way too early to tell how this is going to go. It’s going to depend a lot on how vaccinating actually goes in practice, and what other places are doing. We may see mandatory vaccines for travel to and from certain places (would not be surprised at all if international guests, for example, can’t fly in without them), we may see them for entering private venues, we may see them in some places for school, I think it’s way too early to say definitively what they’re going to do.

I brought up the mask conversation not to compare vaccines and masks, but the reactions to being forced to do something or reveal something in order to enter Disney property. A lot of people used similar arguments as to why it could never happen.

 

[The Pho]

I saw a post on FB about a family being escorted out for refusing to put them on during castle photos. Disney ain't playing and I love it.

They’re doing well for the people that are refusing outright. Where they fall short is the people that don’t wear a mask properly until a cast member says something, complies, than takes it back off after the cast member isn’t near them anymore. Which from my experience wasn’t that many people but enough to notice it several times. Then they also fall short on enforcing during rides and shows, that is where I saw the least compliance.

 

[rteetz]

I agree and it's one of the main reasons why we moved our trip to a more temperate time of year. I don't want to wear them during the summer.

Obviously Florida can be hot at all times of the year really but as a tip based on my experience I much preferred the disposable masks. I brought all types of masks with me and it was only in the 80s at its highest but the disposable masks definitely worked best. I don’t know how some were wearing those thick cotton cloth ones Disney first came out with in July.

 

[SaintsManiac]

They’re doing well for the people that are refusing outright. Where they fall short is the people that don’t wear a mask properly until a cast member says something, complies, than takes it back off after the cast member isn’t near them anymore. Which from my experience wasn’t that many people but enough to notice it several times. Then they also fall short on enforcing during rides and shows, that is where I saw the least compliance.

I'm not surprised. This was the discussion before the parks opened again. How in the world could the CMs enforce it every where at all times? I'm just glad that they removed people who were being that defiant in the middle of Main Street.

 

[yulilin3]

I forgot to mention something that struck me yesterday. I went to DS in the evening to take a look at the holiday offerings and I was pleasantly surprised to see so much entertainment back, all of these (minus the dj at the marketplace stage) are third party. What struck me was that some were allowed to not wear masks while performing. There was a group at HoB patio, a duo at the small stage at splitsville, a solo acoustic guitar player by ther fountain at west side, none were wearing masks, there was a duo playing a violin and accordion by the big tree at town center and a living statue by WoD, they were wearing masks.

 

[Mit88]

They’re doing well for the people that are refusing outright. Where they fall short is the people that don’t wear a mask properly until a cast member says something, complies, than takes it back off after the cast member isn’t near them anymore. Which from my experience wasn’t that many people but enough to notice it several times. Then they also fall short on enforcing during rides and shows, that is where I saw the least compliance.

Which sucks, but unless Disney assigns a babysitter for each guest/group this type of thing is going to happen.

 

[SaintsManiac]

Obviously Florida can be hot at all times of the year really but as a tip based on my experience I much preferred the disposable masks. I brought all types of masks with me and it was only in the 80s at its highest but the disposable masks definitely worked best. I don’t know how some were wearing those thick cotton cloth ones Disney first came out with in July.

Yeah I have good experience with the disposables down here in south Louisiana, too. I bought 2 boxes of the black ones to stash away. It's also much easier to speak in them! I wear them to doctor appointments mainly. They are also the best for people who wear glasses.

 

[fatmanatee]

I don’t have an issue with Disney’s mask policy. I think it is the right policy. Also, Disney would be perfectly within their right to institute a vaccine policy. I am just sort of surprised how many people are just willing to freely offer up any of their medical privacy to a corporation that is under no obligation to not sell or share the information in any other way.

I've unfortunately offered up basically the entirety of my medical history to Google and whoever Google sells this information to. A vaccine is small potatoes compared to that.

 

[Moliphino]

They’re doing well for the people that are refusing outright. Where they fall short is the people that don’t wear a mask properly until a cast member says something, complies, than takes it back off after the cast member isn’t near them anymore. Which from my experience wasn’t that many people but enough to notice it several times. Then they also fall short on enforcing during rides and shows, that is where I saw the least compliance.

American Adventure was where I really noticed people taking masks off, they really need more than one CM in there. One guy two rows ahead of us had his mask off to talk on the phone before the show started and nobody said anything to him. Really, dude?

Obviously Florida can be hot at all times of the year really but as a tip based on my experience I much preferred the disposable masks. I brought all types of masks with me and it was only in the 80s at its highest but the disposable masks definitely worked best. I don’t know how some were wearing those thick cotton cloth ones Disney first came out with in July.

We wore the Disney ones (end of September/beginning of October) and they were fine. I still wear them to work sometimes, though it's not at all hot here.

 

[Mit88]

Obviously Florida can be hot at all times of the year really but as a tip based on my experience I much preferred the disposable masks. I brought all types of masks with me and it was only in the 80s at its highest but the disposable masks definitely worked best. I don’t know how some were wearing those thick cotton cloth ones Disney first came out with in July.

This is the one I wore in August. Idk, the cotton didn’t bother me. Never felt the need to find a relaxation station to take it off, never felt like it was tough to breath in. But I’m also used to the humidity in NY that the heat/humidity in Florida bothers me like it does for some

 

[tlmadden73]

Completely agree. I don’t see Disney removing mask mandate until 2022 at the earliest. Maybe, just maybe, allowing no masks at outdoor areas of resorts sometime near the middle to end of 21, but most likely not because relaxing it, even a little, makes it so much harder to enforce.

That's the main issue -- "enforcement". Easier to say "100% of the people need to wear a mask 100% of the time" rather than .. "no need to wear it why walking" or "while walking and eating" or "only when in a queue" or "only on attractions" or "just wear it inside". It would be a nightmare.

I mean . .personally I think wearing them outside is overboard, but I understand the policy.

If .. (and that appears could be a BIG IF right now) .. I am able to go in January I will see how inconvenient this mask thing is. I don't see it as a problem for my family except my 4yo. She is the first one to want to take it off and she doesn't wear one at preschool (because they realize that would be a losing battle).


If anything .. I'd love to see them eventually loosen them to allow you to take them off for a darn photo op or two! When you are taking a photo - you are standing by yourself, and pretty far away from the photographer themselves. They will sell a lot more Memory Makers that way.