Cruise and Theme Park Operational Updates due to Coronavirus

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They could absolutely have had the ratios at the beginning somewhat reflective of pre-pandemic attendance and tweaked them to reflect actual demand. We do know that they are seeing a higher percentage of APs than normal operation, I think that came from Chapek?

The sheer mention of percentages when it comes to capacity in any business will cause a stir. Restaurants moving from 25% to 50% in NY had a very big reaction to it. With Disney, 25% capacity could mean a number of things and be used at their disposal, and I wouldnt be surprised if they have that line of thinking. Its not a lie that they’re still at 25%, its just a different 25% they’re basing it off off.
 
Not even comparing it to March - people are comparing to how it was in July and August

I would be happy if parks were like they were at the near the end of September. Except for one of our days at DHS and mobile ordering going down adding to the issues of Space Mountain being down on our final day was enjoyable with pretty manageable wait level at all the parks.

The strange thing about that trip were our two days at DHS. The first was on a Sunday where there was no availability in any of the buckets. That was a great day at the park and we even got boarding group 7 for Rise. The second day was a Thursday where only the AP bucket was full. That Thursday was far more crowded at the park with far longer waits for everything. There were far more people in the parks on that Thursday with park availability than there was on that Sunday with no availability.
 

I think it’s 25% of your OLD max, that’s where the misleading part is in his statement. But if you laid off 28,000 (many of them at WDW) and still have some on furlough your current max wouldn’t be remotely close to your old one. I.e staffing food lines, shops, etc. Plus they closed parades, fireworks etc that suck up crowds so yeah the people FIT in the park but there is no where to go and not enough to eat.

I am questioning his 100%, and could it exist without mass chaos. I don’t think you could drop 4 times as many people in. Just the ROR boarding groups as it stands would cause disappointments galore.
From what I've heard from other people, the crowds around the actual max capacity is madness. The issues with waits right now boil down to a few factors:

1) A lot of rides are not running at full capacity to accommodate distancing either in the ride vehicle or between vehicles
2) A lot of shows aren't open. Shows normally eat up a significant amount of guests
3) Meet and Greets are open, these also eat up a lot of people.
4) There aren't a lot of the non-ride activities to do. There aren't any parades or fireworks. There is either none or very little live entertainment in the parks.

The ride wait times also don't seem to be super accurate (they're usually high). A physically long line looks bad, but adding 6 ft of distance between parties can really extend a line with an otherwise typical wait time.
 
From what I've heard from other people, the crowds around the actual max capacity is madness. The issues with waits right now boil down to a few factors:

1) A lot of rides are not running at full capacity to accommodate distancing either in the ride vehicle or between vehicles
2) A lot of shows aren't open. Shows normally eat up a significant amount of guests
3) Meet and Greets are open, these also eat up a lot of people.
4) There aren't a lot of the non-ride activities to do. There aren't any parades or fireworks. There is either none or very little live entertainment in the parks.

The ride wait times also don't seem to be super accurate (they're usually high). A physically long line looks bad, but adding 6 ft of distance between parties can really extend a line with an otherwise typical wait time.
Yes I completely agree which lends to the question of what 100% are they discussing, a 100% that reflects all those realities or the old 100% of 100,000 (or whatever it was.)
 
And you used to be able to hop to a less crowded park. Now you're just kind of stuck. :)

I guess it's just back to the old days of getting there for rope-drop and doing as much as you can right away!
It seems like the strategy of rope dropping a park, leaving in the middle of the day and coming back for the last few hours can still work as well.
 
Does anyone know the dates for Jersey week? I'm afraid that's when we will be there.

The first week of November. So the 2nd - 6th. The convention is the 5th and 6th but my district also closes for Election Day and the Monday and Wednesday are half days so lots of people take the whole week off.
 
Yes I completely agree which lends to the question of what 100% are they discussing, a 100% that reflects all those realities or the old 100% of 100,000 (or whatever it was.)

The amount of people that could be put through attractions and restaurants and whatnot could always vary depending on staffing and other more unique attraction dependant factors. It was somewhat of a hot topic before the pandemic, artificially lowered attraction capacity, shortened hours, etc.

I think 25% is just simply 25% of their max capacity which because of so many factors Disney can manipulate means little to us for planing purposes.
 
Oh whoa! I chose Jersey week! We are there Nov 4-11. Oh well, there were cheap direct flights for my dates plus we got into CCV for part of our stay and Christmas decorations will be up so it's okay. Crowds here we come. Does anyone who has been to the parks have any suggestions on which parks to go to? I was planning MK while at CCV and HWS while at BWV. HWS is booked so now maybe Epcot. Is skipping AK right now a bad choice?
 
I thought people from Jersey weren't coming to Disney because of quarantining?

Will Jersey week even be a thing this year?

We were there during Jersey week one year and honestly it didn't seem that crowded.
 
The first week of November. So the 2nd - 6th. The convention is the 5th and 6th but my district also closes for Election Day and the Monday and Wednesday are half days so lots of people take the whole week off.
Thanks! We arrive on the 6th so I will prepare myself for a potentially crowded weekend.
 
Let’s see what jersey week is like. We have no true fall break here. But we have the convention.
The first week of November. So the 2nd - 6th. The convention is the 5th and 6th but my district also closes for Election Day and the Monday and Wednesday are half days so lots of people take the whole week off.

Our district canceled jersey week, we have school every day now!
 
I thought people from Jersey weren't coming to Disney because of quarantining?

Will Jersey week even be a thing this year?

We were there during Jersey week one year and honestly it didn't seem that crowded.

It all depends, we are going to quarantine and just deal with it, but we moved our week since now school is open the whole week for our district.
 
I thought people from Jersey weren't coming to Disney because of quarantining?

Will Jersey week even be a thing this year?

We were there during Jersey week one year and honestly it didn't seem that crowded.

The quarantine isn’t mandatory. It’s completely voluntary. I don’t know anyone who follows it. Also people who work in critical infrastructure fields, such as health care and federal, state and local law enforcement are exempt from quarantine.

I did jersey week in 2018. I didn’t find it bad either.
 
I thought people from Jersey weren't coming to Disney because of quarantining?

Will Jersey week even be a thing this year?

We were there during Jersey week one year and honestly it didn't seem that crowded.
On one hand, I want to say fingers crossed it isn't a thing this year but really, capacity is capacity and it won't be more crowded than it has been the last couple weeks when the parks reached the reduced capacity.

And that was a horrible run on sentence. :sad2:
 
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