Cruise and Theme Park Operational Updates due to Coronavirus

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I flew into MCO days ago and rented a car to stay at my condo before heading over to Disney (dreaded NYer here) then returned the rental and picked up ME. Both times MCO was very empty. I flew Southwest and had an entire row of seats to myself. Went horizontal and slept most of the flight!

Thank you. We are flying in and out on a Friday so hoping it won't be as busy as weekends. We too are renting a car. We normally take MDE but wanted to have another option this time around. Enjoy your trip!!
 

FL residents get a discount on APs so out of state APs do pay more for the same AP than FL residents do-by quite a bit. I'm not sure WDW would prefer to take the lower amount for the same ticket. But I've been surprised many times before, who knows! 😂

A lower amount for the same ticket doesn't have to equate to less revenue. If they can get the volume up on the Florida AP's and further deter non-Florida AP's via price, it might be the revnue sweet spot (although I think that spot is always in flux). Of course I think it's fair to say that non-Florida AP's, spend more overall per person/family.
 
Randomization will be done by a computer I’m sure. Maybe Tokyo Disney IT is actually competent.

We’re discussing Tokyo so we should take away absolutely nothing from it with regards to how US parks might operate down the line as Tokyo is 0% owned by Disney. Tokyo is lucky they still have a park seeing as they aren’t backed by mega-company Disney.

Interesting they were smart enough to space out timing of crowds. Lottery winners cannot enter until 2pm.

Of course the random number generator (RNG, or whatever it is called) would be computer driven. I probably should have defined it better as execution of the program as a whole. I can see a scenario where a guest/group gets "overlooked" many times by the RNG and question it's fairness and validity. I wonder if TDL is a private entity(?) and doesn't have to adhere to a governmental mandate in this scenario; is it free to create/run any RNG program it wants to?
 
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I went back to the resort for a nap. Not really because it was too hot, more so that I was tired. I haven't had luck with securing a Rise boarding group today, but I'm going to try again for 4pm. I asked two very official looking people at different times if I had in-and-out privileges and they assured me I was ok to go take a nap. We'll see if that's true.

The posted wait times seemed to below actual wait times.

I got trash service today. I'm a DVC member on points.
 
Mid-Day Report

I went back to the resort for a nap. Not really because it was too hot, more so that I was tired. I haven't had luck with securing a Rise boarding group today, but I'm going to try again for 4pm. I asked two very official looking people at different times if I had in-and-out privileges and they assured me I was ok to go take a nap. We'll see if that's true.

The posted wait times seemed to below actual wait times.

I got trash service today. I'm a DVC member on points.
You do. We did it all last week.
 
RotR has been down for nearly an hour. We’re in line, so it could be worse, but it’s so unfortunate that TT no longer holds the title of most notoriously unreliable attraction.
 
Why would they entice people away from a shopping district? The whole idea is to make money so I don't see that happening. Each person should make the decision for themselves whether or not to go there. We've got to stop relying on someone else to make our decisions for us. Each person is capable of judging whether or not they feel safe enough to go in. For now...we can still chose. These places are not "have to" places after all so no need for Disney to "fix" the problem because there isn't one. They can only do so much, the rest is up to our own discretion. Places are open, life is going on, staying away from others and masks are a must now in order to be there....the rest falls under common sense. If it's too crowded for your or my liking, don't go. We need to remember that, because we are getting all too comfortable leaving our thinking up to someone else, and WAY too used to being told what to do. I'm not trying to be ugly in the least, but each person has a different idea of what it should be like and Disney nor any other company is going to be able to make it the ideal situation for each individual, especially in THIS day and age where everyone has something to gripe about. We have to use our own compass.

Hi! In my previous post, I said "I wonder if Disney sees this as a concern, and if so, I wonder if we’ll see them adjust park hours or do something at resorts or something to entice people away from Springs". I did not declare this a problem that Disney must fix immediately, nor did I ask Disney (or anyone) to think for or make decisions for anyone else. Several people are reporting that they are skipping Disney Springs or cutting their time there short, so it's clear people are thinking for themselves, and I am not at all trying to prevent anyone from doing that! I also didn't suggest that Disney needs to be making everything a 100% safe bubble for everyone going - that's just not possible. I just wondered if Disney sees these mask & distancing issues as those reporting them do, and if they do, would they feel a need to do anything to help alleviate these issues.

I'm not at WDW, so I haven't experienced Springs in the evenings during all of this. Some people who are or were there are saying that the crowding and lack of compliance at Disney Springs in the evenings is a problem, and those guests are making appropriate adjustments based on their level of comfort in that situation.

If Disney agrees the crowding and lack of compliance at Disney Springs during a pandemic is as much of an issue as some guests feel it is, and Disney feels it needs to be addressed, then they definitely could come up with an alternative option to intentionally help spread out crowds, or even just so the people who do decide Springs is uncomfortable have something else to do. I agree that
"each person is capable of judging whether or not they feel safe enough" at Springs to be there - but if they don't feel safe at Springs, there could be another option on property for them, other than just going back to the room for the evening. I am aware and agree that Disney is trying to make money - providing an alternative doesn't mean they lose money, though. For all we know, they may be losing money because people decide to cut their time short at DS. I don't know. As you said, "staying away from others and masks are a must now in order to be there" - but if DS legitimately is too crowded in the evenings for the staying-away-from-others to happen, and people aren't wearing masks like they're supposed to be, then maybe Disney needs to or wants to make adjustments.

Several people are saying Disney Springs is fine during the day but a problem in the evenings - I am assuming that's because most people are at the parks during the day, and then flock to Springs after the parks close. Currently, because of the shortened park hours, there is no real alternative for things to do in the evening if you don't have a park reservation for a park that is open later. It makes complete sense that people want something to do in the evenings, and if Disney Springs is the only option, that's where they'll go! That could potentially be resolved by extending park hours at even one park. Extending hours, even by 1 or 2 hours, might keep that park's guests in that park rather than having them leave the park and go to DS looking for something else to do. Potentially, that could remove enough people from DS to make it less crowded. Yes, that would entice some people away from the shopping district (and thus help spread out crowds, which Disney is trying to do right now) but would not necessarily mean Disney loses money. I don't know the numbers on everything, so it absolutely could mean they lose some money, but it could also not. Disney Springs has a lot of third party stores and restaurants, so maybe keeping people in a park longer makes Disney more money directly. I don't know.

Another option might be offering the outside movie nights at the resorts (did those stop? I actually don't know), or some other sort of pandemic-appropriate, limited-capacity after-hours activity at some of the resorts. Just something that might encourage some people just looking for a hang out or something to do after their park closes to go somewhere other than Springs for an evening. I'm sure there's any number of options they could come up with to help spread out crowds, and have no doubt Disney would offer one that doesn't equal a giant financial loss for them.

And that's even if Disney sees the current Springs situation the same way some of the guests see it. They absolutely may not. Or, they might see it as an issue, but not one that warrants anything on their end more than a few extra Incredi-crew CMs in Springs in the evening. I don't know.

:goodvibes :hippie:
 
We had a trip planned for July 7-13 that we canceled. Would have been our first summer trip since I was a kid (a LONG time ago), and I don't think the heat+mask would have been much fun. Rescheduling for next year we hope in the fall.

We love WDW in the fall! I'll take Mickey pumpkins on Main Street any day! 🎃


(Anyone else just here for the Carpets of Aladdin updates??)

Rumor has it the 5th gate will just be a park full of Carpets of Aladdin, since the current one is so popular. A phone CM told me, so it's legit.


THE BEST NEWS :love:
 
(Anyone else just here for the Carpets of Aladdin updates??)

What actually happened to Carpets of Aladdin? I have no idea what sparked all of these CoA comments, but they seem to be everywhere now, so I clearly missed something. It seems really random without the context so I'd love to know what's actually going on. I tried looking for a thread about it, but all I'm finding are the joke comments when I try to search.
 
What actually happened to Carpets of Aladdin? I have no idea what sparked all of these CoA comments, but they seem to be everywhere now, so I clearly missed something. It seems really random without the context so I'd love to know what's actually going on. I tried looking for a thread about it, but all I'm finding are the joke comments when I try to search.
It is a running joke of this thread.
 
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