Cruise and Theme Park Operational Updates due to Coronavirus

[Arguetafamily]

There are plenty of pixie dusters on the disboards but there aren’t too many I’ve seen in this thread. I’m staying at riviera next week and not very happy that I can’t walk/run/dawdle around the full circuit of the lake by Caribbean Beach because that path is closed, too. It has nothing to do with the NBA or MLS. The resort is closed because we’re in the midst of the pandemic and demand stinks. There’s not a fence restricting access to CBR (yet?) but you still can’t access it. Nothing in our DVC membership documents gave us access to other Disney resorts - am I happy about it? No. But others explaining that this access would have been restricted irrespective of the sports contracts doesn’t make them apologists.

And I do think you have every right to be disappointed and angry with Disney and hope you will write them if you do cancel or move your stay.

That's the reality of life...perspective. Period.

We have gone to Disney 10 times now. We are also DVC owners. This is not our first trip, it isn't the first time in many years, we didn't "save" up for this, etc. etc. There are many variables to why someone would be upset about this.
We are a little disappointed because it will be my in laws first time, but they are not too upset because they just want to get away.

Earlier this month, hubby and I went to Arizona for only 2 days, for business...I was so happy to tag along, even with my husband being on the phone most of the time, having to wear masks on the plane, and so on. Getting away for a bit, alone, rarely happens for us. So getting to go to Disney, only us and a couple of other adults - IF Disney doesn't delay opening, after all these spikes...happy camper right here...Perspective

 

[DGsAtBLT]

Walt was a visionary like Steve Jobs and others. That is hard to replicate. I'm a comic guy and there are reports that Howard Stark and the "Stark Expo" were based off of Walt and the World Fair. If he had lived longer what all could he have given us? Maybe not something like the Iron Man suit but a bet a lot of really cool things which would extend well beyond theme park rides. I'd bet we'd have technology we use every day that would have come out of his work.

Its fun to wonder about, isn’t it?

 

[Mit88]

Everytime I see him talk about Epcot I wonder if he would have been disappointed at what WDW has turned into, and how since his death there have been 4 (right?) additional MK like parks built around the world.

They strayed from his plans decades ago.

They strayed, yeah. And I’m not sure we’d see ANY of the non Disney specific IPs inside of the parks. But thats not necessarily a good or bad thing. Indiana Jones Adventure is one of my favorite rides ive ever ridden. Would that ride have been made if Walt was alive? Would making a majority of original rides have kept interest of kids through the 90s-now?

While I believe Walt would have brought balance to the parks, there’s a lot of things at the Disney Parks that I love that probably wouldnt exist if he were still in charge

 

[Krandor]

That's the reality of life...perspective. Period.

We have gone to Disney 10 times now. We are also DVC owners. This is not our first trip, it isn't the first time in many years, we didn't "save" up for this, etc. etc. There are many variables to why someone would be upset about this.
We are a little disappointed because it will be my in laws first time, but they are not too upset because they just want to get away.

Earlier this month, hubby and I went to Arizona for only 2 days, for business...I was so happy to tag along, even with my husband being on the phone most of the time, having to wear masks on the plane, and so on. Getting away for a bit, alone, rarely happens for us. So getting to go to Disney, only us and a couple of other adults - IF Disney doesn't delay opening, after all these spikes...happy camper right here...Perspective

Good perspective. Not the best time for a first trip for the in laws but since you know your way around you can explain how things are not normal and what normal is.

We are still in the middle of a pandemic and based on current numbers in a bad part of it. We just have to deal with things as they are right now and appreciate that we CAN do certain things right now and understand percautions are the only was we can do those things currently. The alternative is to shut them down which nobody wants.

 

[mmackeymouse]

Walt was a visionary like Steve Jobs and others. That is hard to replicate. I'm a comic guy and there are reports that Howard Stark and the "Stark Expo" were based off of Walt and the World Fair. If he had lived longer what all could he have given us? Maybe not something like the Iron Man suit but a bet a lot of really cool things which would extend well beyond theme park rides. I'd bet we'd have technology we use every day that would have come out of his work.

Haha....I always assumed this, but thought it was just my Disney-colored glasses wishing it so.

 

[Krandor]

Its fun to wonder about, isn’t it?

It is. I could see a Walt Disney Company under Walt as a combination of the entertainment company they are now and a company like Apple as well and the two feeding off each other. Kinda like how the space program created a lot of side projects that we use a lot like Velcro. I could see Walt developing rides and stuff that had technology that could be used on the commercial side as well.

It is fun to think about.

 

[Perdita&Pongo]

May I suggest PPD’ing your trip until after the NBA leaves Y&B club?

You got me there - what is “PPD”?

 

[Mit88]

You got me there - what is “PPD”?

Postpone

 

[jenjersnap]

The fence is a small inconvenience for walking to DHS and the BW pool, I am pretty glad to see the slide entrance outside the fence because that is a small signal that the NBA won’t be using SAB. I don’t want to repeat myself and I am no whiner, but Disney has treated us particularly poorly (other people too, of course) and the only thing that will put me over the edge and cause me to pull out the guest communications email is if the NBA is using SAB. Honestly, I haven’t believed it - the YC pool is delightful, very secluded and has a hot tub, staffing is an issue and visibility is most certainly an issue with the only fix a very expensive endeavor - and I still would be surprised if it came to pass.

i guess we shall see.

 

[pepperandchips]

That's the reality of life...perspective. Period.

We have gone to Disney 10 times now. We are also DVC owners. This is not our first trip, it isn't the first time in many years, we didn't "save" up for this, etc. etc. There are many variables to why someone would be upset about this.
We are a little disappointed because it will be my in laws first time, but they are not too upset because they just want to get away.

Earlier this month, hubby and I went to Arizona for only 2 days, for business...I was so happy to tag along, even with my husband being on the phone most of the time, having to wear masks on the plane, and so on. Getting away for a bit, alone, rarely happens for us. So getting to go to Disney, only us and a couple of other adults - IF Disney doesn't delay opening, after all these spikes...happy camper right here...Perspective

I agree with you - it’s about what you choose to focus on, but I didn’t want to throw fuel on the fire of a poster who is justifiably upset about a shortage in the amenities we’ve been conditioned by Disney to expect. There’s a reason why DVC commands the price it does when other timeshare resales are literally given away, and it’s not just the accommodations (units). I am really looking forward to pool time, the opportunity to sit on a balcony with coffee or a cocktail and enjoy the Disney view, basically any view other than the four walls of my home... someone else having cleaned the sheets and scrubbed the bathroom, using someone else’s power bill to crank my AC down to the 60s

And I recognize that during the pandemic I need to temper my expectations - but my dvc points still cost what they cost to own, and the points chart isn’t altered based on things not being available. It’s okay to be disappointed. I’m choosing to try to focus on the donut, not on the hole, but not everyone can do that and that’s okay too.

 

[New Mouse]

This just in...putting up fences to block off walkways that have no logical reason to be blocked off...isnt about safety.

 

[Krandor]

The fence is a small inconvenience for walking to DHS and the BW pool, I am pretty glad to see the slide entrance outside the fence because that is a small signal that the NBA won’t be using SAB. I don’t want to repeat myself and I am no whiner, but Disney has treated us particularly poorly (other people too, of course) and the only thing that will put me over the edge and cause me to pull out the guest communications email is if the NBA is using SAB. Honestly, I haven’t believed it - the YC pool is delightful, very secluded and has a hot tub, staffing is an issue and visibility is most certainly an issue with the only fix a very expensive endeavor - and I still would be surprised if it came to pass.

i guess we shall see.

I seriously doubt nba will use Sab or at most just the hot tub but doubt that. yiu won’t see nba in the lasyriver or the slides I’m almost completely sure.

 

[Mit88]

This just in...putting up fences to block off walkways that have no logical reason to be blocked off...isnt about safety.

Then why are they doing it? Just to piss off their guests at BC, BW, Swan and Dolphin? Yeah, I’m sure that’s why they did it and absolutely not for safety reasons.

 

[DGsAtBLT]

This just in...putting up fences to block off walkways that have no logical reason to be blocked off...isnt about safety.

Without blocking that walkway you’d pretty much be able to stand there and gawk at NBA players.

I think player security (and safety) is a big reason why they would be stopping traffic on that walkway. We were having discussions questioning how they’re going to block YC off completely for the NBA when the surrounding area is open before it was even announced when it was just a rumor. It makes sense that there’s now a fence.

 

[glocker]

There are plenty of pixie dusters on the disboards but there aren’t too many I’ve seen in this thread. I’m staying at riviera next week and not very happy that I can’t walk/run/dawdle around the full circuit of the lake by Caribbean Beach because that path is closed, too. It has nothing to do with the NBA or MLS. The resort is closed because we’re in the midst of the pandemic and demand stinks. There’s not a fence restricting access to CBR (yet?) but you still can’t access it. Nothing in our DVC membership documents gave us access to other Disney resorts - am I happy about it? No. But others explaining that this access would have been restricted irrespective of the sports contracts doesn’t make them apologists.

And I do think you have every right to be disappointed and angry with Disney and hope you will write them if you do cancel or move your stay.

Unfortunately I have written several emails to DVC, starting on May 29th...I have yet to receive one response. Very unDisney of them. And I understand that we are in a pandemic, and never said that I had a problem with Disney limiting capacity, or dining, or parkhopping, or waiting to open. I applaud their plan for masks, social distancing and all that. But the closing of guest paths at resorts that will be open, because of the NBA, is problematic. I know what I bought, and as a 20 year member I can assure you that the value of that DVC ownership has been in decline over the past 10 years; not monetary decline, but perceived value.

 

[Tjddis]

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Would the fences be up at DVC resorts? Would DVC members who own at those resorts be inconvenced in a variety of ways if the NBA wasn't there? Would the "regular guests" have been able to remain at the resorts inhabited by the NBA and MLS? I think the answer to most or all of these questions is yes.

So many Disney apologists. SMH

Wow I’m with you in your “last strawism” I’ve mooned for a while about the expanded money grabbing at WDW...won’t bore you with all things that have annoyed me through the years...and I’m on record being far less than thrilled with how they’ve handled the current situation
But I am also aware I sound a lot like my father: “well back in my day...”
It’s just not the way the world is anymore, sadly. Enough is never enough. More profits, more cash, and if the customer isn’t as happy as they used to be we will just replace them with the next one, or ten
Heck I worked 25 years for a company that was once known for impeccable products. helped build it into a power in its industry and then got told I had to go cause I had too much equity...along with many others. Now it’s just another junk factory.
Entertainment companies appear to be particularly ruthless in the pursuit of the bottom line
So no place is like it used to be. Even WDW. I suspect many of us bring our kids there because we remember good times, simpler times. And don’t get me wrong, WDW is still better than most, that’s why we’re here...and why we’ll go back again
But if you know anyplace as good as it ever was lmk and I’ll give it a shot...

 

[0FF TO NEVERLAND]

Then why are they doing it? Just to piss off their guests at BC, BW, Swan and Dolphin? Yeah, I’m sure that’s why they did it and absolutely not for safety reasons.

I think anyone going to Disney in July especially knowing all the stuff going on, including with the NBA waives the right to get pissed off at Disney for these type of issues. Especially when it’s already known before people get there.

Many things are gonna piss the guests off when they get there. The compromise to opening now is to basically take it and realize, it’s not a normal Disney trip this time around.

Sounds nuts but thats Disney currently

Normal Disney will return one day

 

[HorizonOne]

This just in...putting up fences to block off walkways that have no logical reason to be blocked off...isnt about safety.

I think it’s for the safety of the players to deter the average person away from them. A lot of money is riding on these players.

 

[Mit88]

I think anyone going to Disney in July especially knowing all the stuff going on, including with the NBA waives the right to get pissed off at Disney for these type of issues. Especially when it’s already known before people get there.

Many things are gonna piss the guests off when they get there. The compromise to opening now is to basically take it and realize, it’s not a normal Disney trip this time around.

Sounds nuts but thats Disney currently

Normal Disney will return one day

Sure, everyone is very much entitled to be a human and have a reaction, good or bad. The issue I have is planning this trip as if its a normal trip. I’m a nobody and even I said on June 16th when they announced the resorts that NBA players would be staying at that they would put a fence blocking SAB from guests at other resorts. Even if I was wrong, as someone who is going in August, I’ve prepared myself to not be surprised with any possible safety measures that Disney would enforce.

 

[Krandor]

I think anyone going to Disney in July especially knowing all the stuff going on, including with the NBA waives the right to get pissed off at Disney for these type of issues. Especially when it’s already known before people get there.

Many things are gonna piss the guests off when they get there. The compromise to opening now is to basically take it and realize, it’s not a normal Disney trip this time around.

Sounds nuts but thats Disney currently

Normal Disney will return one day

agree.

lit seems people think the nba is taking things that guests should have.

nba is not getting Sab

nba is not Taking park reservations slots.

nba is not kicking people out of being able to come. Rooms were going to be empty and people were going to be moved nba or not.

the fences are nba but tenporary and will go.