Cruise and Theme Park Operational Updates due to Coronavirus

[Krandor]

We likely wouldn’t have yacht or beach if Walt was around. Walt wasn’t about resorts either, he was about the parks, technology and innovation. Epcot would’ve been an actual city had he lived longer.

I really would have loved to have seen what EPCOT looked like if Walt had been able to do what he had planned. I'm not sure if it would have worked but hard to bet against the guy and it would have been very interesting to see regardless of if it worked or not. EPCOT is definitely one of those big "what if" questions. We see a lot of mixed-use type developments these days but that could have been one of the first of them but in a very different way.

 

[New Mouse]

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They may not be using SAB and the slide, but I did say almost 2 weeks ago when they first announced where the teams were staying that the area would be heavily guarded. I consider a fence as a version of “guarded”. None of this should be coming as a surprise.

Even if the teams dont use SAB, and they left that loop clear there would be teenagers, and probably adults that would attempt to sneak onto the pool. And thats a disaster waiting to happen

You think a fence is going to stop that?

 

[Krandor]

You think a fence is going to stop that?

If SAB is locked up and people still try to sneak in that is not going to end well for them.

 

[Mit88]

You think a fence is going to stop that?

More than not having a fence? Yes.

 

[Llama mama]

Right about now I could use some popcorn.........
and maybe a ADR info news release

 

[Mit88]

It's not just the fence; though the fence is symbolic. The quest for every dollar they can grab has been sticking in my craw for years. They have been slowly shutting out the little guy, and making decisions that are very anti-Disney. If Walt saw these fences going up at GF and YC he would not be happy. He'd say it's a bad show. Additionally, Walt was all about making the parks accessible to all. This is not the Walt way.
As for the HS walkway, thanks for the recommendation. I don't know that we'll need it though, as I intend on canceling or moving back to my home resort of OKW.

Where was this quest when Universal was opening up almost a month ago while Disney, at the risk of losing even more money, they decided to keep their parks closed until July 11th, for the safety of their guests and cast members. The same goes for the reasoning of this fence.

 

[Mit88]

Nothing that Disney has done yet has caught me off guard thinking they didn’t have to do what they did. All of what they’ve done so far has made complete sense in terms of guest and CM safety measures. None of it is ideal. But ever since late March I knew I wouldnt be walking into Disney, whether it was my original June trip, or my current August trip the way I saw it in October 2019. And they really haven’t been secretive of what they were doing. The communication has been a little off, but when information has leaked out, its been fairly easy to connect dots of what that information would mean in terms of added safety measures

 

[AmberMV]

Right about now I could use some popcorn.........
and maybe a ADR info news release

Not tonight, unfortunately. Maybe we will hear something tomorrow on ADRs, but I get more and more of a feeling that ADRs won't be what we are used to expecting if/when they announce them (i.e. first couple weeks walk-up only, only booking a few days ahead of time, etc)

 

[TISHLOVESDISNEY]

Right about now I could use some popcorn.........
and maybe a ADR info news release

Same.
Wondering if they announce, or just casually open them.
I would prefer not to set an alarm to get up at 5am every morning checking, but I may have to.
Surely if it is a new system, they announce, right?

 

[glocker]

Where was this quest when Universal was opening up almost a month ago while Disney, at the risk of losing even more money, they decided to keep their parks closed until July 11th, for the safety of their guests and cast members. The same goes for the reasoning of this fence.

So they signed a mega deal with the NBA for the safety of their guests? Ok. Got it.

 

[Krandor]

So they signed a mega deal with the NBA for the safety of their guests? Ok. Got it.

They were never going to open all resorts on day 1 so putting NBA in a few resorts really doesn't change much.

 

[glocker]

They were never going to open all resorts on day 1 so putting NBA in a few resorts really doesn't change much.

Would the fences be up at DVC resorts? Would DVC members who own at those resorts be inconvenced in a variety of ways if the NBA wasn't there? Would the "regular guests" have been able to remain at the resorts inhabited by the NBA and MLS? I think the answer to most or all of these questions is yes.

So many Disney apologists. SMH

 

[Mit88]

So they signed a mega deal with the NBA for the safety of their guests? Ok. Got it.

What difference does that make if they were holding off the opening of the parks until July 11th? Why not get the extra month of parks revenue by opening up when Universal did? Oh, because they didnt feel their safety measures were where they felt comfortable to bring their CMs back and bring in guests, even at an incredibly reduced capacity

As Krandor said, look at all of the resorts that aren’t open. If the NBA weren’t playing at Disney, those resorts probably still wouldnt be open to guests, and the boardwalk could still have possibly been blocked off at the slide to avoid potential guest injury.

 

[pepperandchips]

Would the fences be up at DVC resorts? Would DVC members who own at those resorts be inconvenced in a variety of ways if the NBA wasn't there? Would the "regular guests" have been able to remain at the resorts inhabited by the NBA and MLS? I think the answer to most or all of these questions is yes.

So many Disney apologists. SMH

There are plenty of pixie dusters on the disboards but there aren’t too many I’ve seen in this thread. I’m staying at riviera next week and not very happy that I can’t walk/run/dawdle around the full circuit of the lake by Caribbean Beach because that path is closed, too. It has nothing to do with the NBA or MLS. The resort is closed because we’re in the midst of the pandemic and demand stinks. There’s not a fence restricting access to CBR (yet?) but you still can’t access it. Nothing in our DVC membership documents gave us access to other Disney resorts - am I happy about it? No. But others explaining that this access would have been restricted irrespective of the sports contracts doesn’t make them apologists.

And I do think you have every right to be disappointed and angry with Disney and hope you will write them if you do cancel or move your stay.

 

[DGsAtBLT]

Would the fences be up at DVC resorts? Would DVC members who own at those resorts be inconvenced in a variety of ways if the NBA wasn't there? Would the "regular guests" have been able to remain at the resorts inhabited by the NBA and MLS? I think the answer to most or all of these questions is yes.

So many Disney apologists. SMH

I don’t think it’s Disney apologists so much as pandemic vacationing realists.

They can pull back on most everything for any reason they feel like and your choices are basically going to be deal with it or don’t go. That’s the reality of going there right now, make the best of it and roll with the punches, or postpone.

I think it’s less defending and more like, we’ve been watching this stuff go on for months now and see the disappointments that have been rolling in. So I sympathize that something you’ve been looking forward to is gone now, and I think you’re entitled to feel disappointed (not like you need my permission) but this is the kind of stuff that people should mentally prepare to happen in this reopening period, possibly be sprung on then mid trip.

 

[MickeyWaffles]

It's not just the fence; though the fence is symbolic. The quest for every dollar they can grab has been sticking in my craw for years. They have been slowly shutting out the little guy, and making decisions that are very anti-Disney. If Walt saw these fences going up at GF and YC he would not be happy. He'd say it's a bad show. Additionally, Walt was all about making the parks accessible to all. This is not the Walt way.
As for the HS walkway, thanks for the recommendation. I don't know that we'll need it though, as I intend on canceling or moving back to my home resort of OKW.

Sounds like you have been unhappy with Disney for a long time. I figured it was about more than just the fence and more of a last straw situation.

I always hesitate to speculate on what Walt would do. I don’t really think anyone knows what he would do in any situation, especially not in 2020 in the middle of a pandemic 50+ years after his death.

 

[Krandor]

Would the fences be up at DVC resorts? Would DVC members who own at those resorts be inconvenced in a variety of ways if the NBA wasn't there? Would the "regular guests" have been able to remain at the resorts inhabited by the NBA and MLS? I think the answer to most or all of these questions is yes.

So many Disney apologists. SMH

The fences are really the only change which are temporary. Are those really such a big deal?

And to your question would regular guests have remained at YC, GF or CBR I think the answer is no. They clearly didn't need those rooms for guests so those guests were likely moved regardless. It is possible YC, GF and CBR were open and guests at other resorts were moved to those but guests were getting moved under any situation.

I find it interesting how much people so dislike the NBA/MLS being around.

 

[DGsAtBLT]

Sounds like you have been unhappy with Disney for a long time. I figured it was about more than just the fence and more of a last straw.

I always hesitate to speculate on what Walt would do. I don’t really think anyone knows what he would do in any situation, especially not in 2020 in the middle of a pandemic 50+ years after his death.

Everytime I see him talk about Epcot I wonder if he would have been disappointed at what WDW has turned into, and how since his death there have been 4 (right?) additional MK like parks built around the world.

They strayed from his plans decades ago.

 

[Mit88]

Understanding why Disney would be taking safety measures seriously isnt being a Disney apologist.

I’ve been critical about the way they’re treating APs.

 

[Krandor]

Everytime I see him talk about Epcot I wonder if he would have been disappointed at what WDW has turned into, and how since his death there have been 4 (right?) additional MK like parks built around the world.

They strayed from his plans decades ago.

Walt was a visionary like Steve Jobs and others. That is hard to replicate. I'm a comic guy and there are reports that Howard Stark and the "Stark Expo" were based off of Walt and the World Fair. If he had lived longer what all could he have given us? Maybe not something like the Iron Man suit but a bet a lot of really cool things which would extend well beyond theme park rides. I'd bet we'd have technology we use every day that would have come out of his work.