Cruise and Theme Park Operational Updates due to Coronavirus

[kverdon]

Everyone catch a breath. Certainly bad numbers but its going to take a while for the Orange County Mask rule and closing the bars to have an effect. Hopefully we will see some better numbers by the week of the 6th.

 

[Rxdr2013]

This is crazy. We have a VRBO rental beginning on July 10th (prior to our Disney trip) and the money is due today. So, now I have to decide today if I'm keeping the VRBO based on these #s...This week began stressful, now it is ending stressful! Yuck.

Tell me about it! I have 3 split dvc rental stays that are fully paid for July 21-26. Which are nonrefunable. I guess if DVC stays open and Disney remains closed it will be an all resort stay.

 

[Racheldb]

Everyone catch a breath. Certainly bad numbers but its going to take a while for the Orange County Mask rule and closing the bars to have an effect. Hopefully we will see some better numbers by the week of the 6th.

I'm trying. Practicing my deep breathing right now...

 

[hereforthechurros]

I really can't believe that people still think Disney World is going to open. Legitimately, it is blowing my mind.

You're confusing people wanting it to open with people thinking it will. I don't know if they should open, but I think they will. WDW is it's own bubble and is already open. They have DVC obligations they cannot ignore. They are doing more than most states as far as masks, social distancing, sanitizing. I think delaying the opening by two weeks, at least, could very well happen at this point which would give Florida a month from now to get it together and try again.

 

[dlavender]

This is crazy. We have a VRBO rental beginning on July 10th (prior to our Disney trip) and the money is due today. So, now I have to decide today if I'm keeping the VRBO based on these #s...This week began stressful, now it is ending stressful! Yuck.

Is there a Covid cancellation refund policy?

If it were me, and way easier to say since its not, I'd cancel now while you aren't out the money.

But like I said, its easier said than done...

 

[birostick]

The new Florida mandate applies to Bars only that serve ONLY alcohol and no food. And it says bars may remain open but alcohol can NOT be consumed inside the business. Only outside if they have outdoor area.

Do you have a source on this particular info? I'm unable to find exactly what you are saying for the rules.

 

[Katrina Y]

I'm not saying at all that its a religious stance.

There were just a few people at a town hall saying it would hurt their religion or something to that effect. Don't want to post the quote as it is kind of ridiculous, tbh.

Just pointing out that there is a ferver against making them mandatory here for a lot of weird reasons.

The point is there where “a few people” as I am sure there are “a few people” in all categories of life.

 

[marinejjh]

Two things. I don't think the NBA will play a game at Disney, it will likely be shut down before I ever gets started. I also dont think Disney will open on July 11th. Just being realistic.

 

[LSUmiss]

Unless the state mandates statewide masks before Monday I don’t envision how WDW would be able to open and UO to remain open

That’s what I hope happens.

 

[dlavender]

The point is there where “a few people” as I am sure there are “a few people” in all categories of life.

The point is there where “a few people” as I am sure there are “a few people” in all categories of life.

They were just very loud that day.

 

[marinejjh]

The masks order in South Florida excludes medical reasons and religious beliefs.

Where Disney is different is they are private property and dont have to oblige by health reasons and religious beliefs.

What does Disney require? Everything I've read was you have to wear a mask no matter what. I'm for it. If you dont wear one you can't get in. I don't care about your reasons. Religious or health. Wear it or dont come in.

 

[gatechfan99]

Certainly Disney may not open now by the target date.

Having said that, I feel most confident they aren't going to make a sudden panic move on a whim to close it. There are gigantic ramifications for them if they do that. If they delay opening and stop this massive process that's moving forward, when do they ever feel confident to restart it again? It could be months, maybe even next summer. There's no reason to think it would be better in the fall or winter, is there? And given how long it takes them to get the supply chain in order and get all the workers going, they're not going to want to do that until they're sure they don't shut it down again. No telling how many hundreds of millions just these few weeks of preparation will cost them if they don't open.

I'm still not sure a mandatory mask requirement suddenly changes all this. In Alabama, Birmingham is the only major city with a mask requirement and they've had it since April. Now their numbers are rapidly rising again. I don't think you have to overthink it. It's primarily from large groups hanging out together for long periods of time. Typically that's young adults which is why the median age has gone down so long. Shutting down bars is the first thing I would've done so glad they have at least done that.

 

[hereforthechurros]

Two things. I don't think the NBA will play a game at Disney, it will likely be shut down before I ever gets started. I also dont think Disney will open on July 11th. Just being realistic.

I could see NBA still going forward, especially if WDW doesn't open to the public. They fly in on private planes to smaller airports, bus right to the resorts and stay in the bubble. They're also tested daily. This can only happen if tested CMs are embedded with them but I imagine Disney could provide that.

 

[hertamaniac]

Knight's Pub in Orlando near UCF lost it's liquor license a few days ago due to a lack of compliance. The move today just reinforced it statewide. The numbers from that establishment were very telling.

 

[SwirlTheCitrus]

Does anyone else think that this move is SPECIFICALLY to lower the numbers before WDW is scheduled to reopen?

 

[dlavender]

Certainly Disney may not open now by the target date.

Having said that, I feel most confident they aren't going to make a sudden panic move on a whim to close it. There are gigantic ramifications for them if they do that. If they delay opening and stop this massive process that's moving forward, when do they ever feel confident to restart it again? It could be months, maybe even next summer. There's no reason to think it would be better in the fall or winter, is there? And given how long it takes them to get the supply chain in order and get all the workers going, they're not going to want to do that until they're sure they don't shut it down again. No telling how many hundreds of millions just these few weeks of preparation will cost them if they don't open.

I'm still not sure a mandatory mask requirement suddenly changes all this. In Alabama, Birmingham is the only major city with a mask requirement and they've had it since April. Now their numbers are rapidly rising again. I don't think you have to overthink it. It's primarily from large groups hanging out together for long periods of time. Typically that's young adults which is why the median age has gone down so long. Shutting down bars is the first thing I would've done so glad they have at least done that.

It's a really hard spot to be in.

They will certainly wait another week to make that call. Hoping the numbers at least start going the other way.

I'd say they won't make any decision until another 5 days of info comes in. Certainly not off just the past 3 days of bad news.

 

[bffer]

We're going to have problems in PA. Our governor used color-coding for phases which was great until counties entered the "green" phase, which really means stuff is open but you should still do everything else (social distance, masks, etc). As soon as my area hit green those masks disappeared on about half of the people. I would say our bounceback in rates will start in about 3 weeks or so unless the other green areas are actually following all of the rules instead of green meaning "good to go and do whatever you want like before".

Agree. We have been in the green since the beginning of the month. Before that, our county was averaging only two cases a week. We were doing so well with masks and social distancing. As soon as it went green, everyone started going about as if it were gone. Now it's been rising by two cases a day. Today it was eight cases. And I know there was a death in my county that hasn't made it to the official count yet. I hope we are able to do our Disney trip in September, but it isn't looking good.

 

[Katrina Y]

They were just very loud that day.

There are loud people in all groups and sometimes they are aggravating. Oftentimes, you just have have to plug your ears and say “Bless their Hearts”.

 

[magrif]

Our Jacksonville metro area beaches announced, just before the state order came down, that bars AND restaurants have to stop selling alcohol between 12AM-2AM. Since the state supersedes the local order, the only place here you can be inside consuming is restaurants before 12am. Idk if other beach communities in the state will start adjusting as well, but that's kind of what happened when the beaches closed the first round.

EDA: I'll also add as of 1AM Saturday June 27th, St Augustine has issued the emergency order for masks to be mandatory inside.

 

[umichigan10]

Two things. I don't think the NBA will play a game at Disney, it will likely be shut down before I ever gets started. I also dont think Disney will open on July 11th. Just being realistic.

Yeah I can’t see how the NBA can justify using up all these resources when the states trending in a bad direction very fast. As much as I want basketball back, there’s much more important things at stake here