Cruise and Theme Park Operational Updates due to Coronavirus

[UOAP]

And it will be the CMs that have to enforce it. But if 20% or people coming in are pulling the masks off, there isn’t enough security to throw that many people out. So what’s the solution to that? Close the park and furlough the CMs again? They are then unemployed again. That only hurts the CMs in the end.

Disney management needs to support the CMs so the CMs can enforce the policy. If that means hiring more security, then they need to do it.

 

[Pickle Rick]

Whoever thought it would be heavily enforced was kidding themselves or they've never been to Disney. Again, personal responsibility.

It’s the personal responsibility of guests to follow the rules in place. Disney shouldn’t have to babysit guests who choose not to follow the rules.

 

[RamblingMad]

Whoever thought it would be heavily enforced was kidding themselves or they've never been to Disney. Again, personal responsibility.

If you want to be personally responsible, then you need to either stay home or get a N95 mask to protect yourself. The whole idea of masks is to reduce the R0. If people don’t care, then all it takes is one super spreader. This is why I have multiple forecasts. I have to prepare for the different economic fall outs.

 

[xuxa777]

As I recall, it was Disney.

Pretty sure universal closed and announced first, which kinda bothered Disney as they have had a gentleman's agreement with all the parks in Florida in the past to do things the same. But in this case the closing of Universal came out of California and not the Florida office and they were unaware of the arrangement.

 

[UOAP]

It was the first day, I think people are going a little overboard with the mask concerns. How many did it at CW and how many did it at DS is really not relevant. From the pictures I’ve seen, there were far more people at DS today than the first day CW was open. Disney, I’m sure is well aware of the backlash from people taking their masks off and will use that and make adjustments tomorrow.

If Disney makes adjustments because people were complaining then the complaining was a good thing. I hope you're right that they do something different.

 

[Brianstl]

I disagree. How is it that most who went to CityWalk has no issues wearing a mask yet the same can't be said for Disney Springs.

You and certain Universal fans will happily use this to tell yourself that you are better than those heathens who were at Disney Springs. Good for you.

 

[Letsoflyakite]

One of the CM passed out today from the heat (or some other mysterious reason) witnessed by the mod. That won't be allowed to continue for long and neither will it for guests.

 

[Mit88]

Just like when the park opens, if you expect perfections and a no risk situation, lock yourself in your house until there’s a vaccine. If you touch a gas handle, it could be on there. Touch a door handle, could be on there. Touch a package of meat at the store, it could be on there. The only way you stay 100% safe is to stay home. Depending on 100% of the people that leave their homes to be a 100% safe, healthy, rule follower to the T, then I don’t know what to tell you, but that’s a fools errand

 

[JacknSally]

One of the CM passed out today from the heat cause of the mask. That won't be allowed to continue for long and neither will it for guests.

@yulilin3 is the one who said they witnessed an elderly CM faint and she said she wasn’t sure it was a result of the mask. Has there been another report confirming it was due to the mask? The thread has moved fast today so I might’ve missed it.

 

[yulilin3]

If you want to be personally responsible, then you need to either stay home or get a N95 mask to protect yourself. The whole idea of masks is to reduce the R0. If people don’t care, then all it takes is one super spreader. This is why I have multiple forecasts. I have to prepare for the different economic fall outs.

Won't go down the same rabbit hole, I've shared my opinion on this plenty of times on this thread. It's not all or nothing

 

[e_yerger]

We live in an imperfect world with imperfect people. All of us are imperfect. If you can’t handle people not wearing a mask or wearing it improperly, don’t come to any park. Because you are going to encounter people doing both at every park no matter how hard staff works to make everyone comply. You are going to have a miserable time and you need to find some kind of other trip to take where you don’t come into contact with as many people. Plus, you are going to make everyone else miserable including the staff at the parks.

When me and my family go in September we will be wearing our masks while remembering what kind of world we live in and understanding that comes with certain risks.

Heck, people can’t even wear their masks right at Target or Costco. What makes us think they will at a theme park?

Remember people, over the mouth AND nose

 

[cakebaker]

Pretty sure universal closed and announced first, which kinda bothered Disney as they have had a gentleman's agreement with all the parks in Florida in the past to do things the same. But in this case the closing of Universal came out of California and not the Florida office and they were unaware of the arrangement.

It’s a bit fuzzy to me as we were more focused on the fact that our car had to be unpacked since we wouldn’t be leaving for WDW, but as I recall, DLR announced first, followed by US Hollywood, then a few hours later WDW was quickly followed by Universal Orlando. Whatever it was, they all closed down within hours of each other. It’s a non issue to me either way.

 

[RamblingMad]

Won't go down the same rabbit hole, I've shared my opinion on this plenty of times on this thread. It's not all or nothing

I keep trying to get people to do the right thing. But it’s always a fail.

 

[xuxa777]

If Disney makes adjustments because people were complaining then the complaining was a good thing. I hope you're right that they do something different.

Today was the strictest they will be with masks and 6-foot spacing, don't get your hopes up on it being stricter, just not going to happen. Only thing that will cause things to be stricter would be a huge increased trend in hospitalizations etc. Right now we are nowhere near that and nothing showing that will happen at all but say if that happens we have other issues that will not be involving Disney.

 

[Eric Smith]

One of the CM passed out today from the heat cause of the mask. That won't be allowed to continue for long and neither will it for guests.

Do you have a source?

 

[rteetz]

Do you have a source?

Yes @yulilin3

 

[Mit88]

It’s a bit fuzzy to me as we were more focused on the fact that our car had to be unpacked since we wouldn’t be leaving for WDW, but as I recall, DLR announced first, followed by US Hollywood, then a few hours later WDW was quickly followed by Universal Orlando. Whatever it was, they all closed down within hours of each other. It’s a non issue to me either way.

I think that was the order it was announced.. it was so long ago, I can’t remember though. But it doesn’t really mean much to me. They all closed. They did what they needed to do. I don’t care who announced first, it’s not a race. I do know that Disney didn’t officially announced they were pushing closure beyond March 31st until a few days after UO and people went nuts acting like Disney was going to open up on April 1st. In no way was that every a realistic option.

 

[UOAP]

Just like when the park opens, if you expect perfections and a no risk situation, lock yourself in your house until there’s a vaccine. If you touch a gas handle, it could be on there. Touch a door handle, could be on there. Touch a package of meat at the store, it could be on there. The only way you stay 100% safe is to stay home. Depending on 100% of the people that leave their homes to be a 100% safe, healthy, rule follower to the T, then I don’t know what to tell you, but that’s a fools errand

No one is expecting perfection. We are expecting Disney to put in a good faith effort to enforce the rules they set (as an intentional travel destination and potential source of viral spread) by their very own claim to help protect their guests and employees. And we are expecting people not to gleefully thwart the rules and then nyah nyah tell everyone else they need to stay home and starve because Freedom.

 

[Letsoflyakite]

The goal was never R0. We accomplished the goal, to flatten the curve.

 

[yulilin3]

Yes @yulilin3

I saw it happen but i never said it was because of heat, no one can know for sure unless you're that person. People fainting during the warmer months is nothing new, happens everyday to multiple people