Cruise and Theme Park Operational Updates due to Coronavirus

[xuxa777]

There is evidence that in outdoors settings the risk is lower. But the trouble with large events like football games is that persons are in close confinement in other aspects associated with the event, not whilst actually watching the game - for example public transport to and from the event, or packed bars drinking before and after a game (if they are anything like Pompey fans!) etc.

So translating that to Disney, just wandering around the parks probably wouldn't be too bad - and somewhere like AK could still be a pleasurable experience. But it is things like transport to and from the parks - whether that be planes, buses, monorail, skyliner etc. - and enclosed buildings such as ride buildings, theaters and restaurants which will be the tricky areas.

Exactly, and in those areas, adjust for social distancing, every other seat, masks and other mitigation methods

 

[xuxa777]

Other data disputes that greatly. I can tell you thats not what the parks in Florida are being advised by health officials. They are being advised no large gatherings until July at the earliest most likely August and the window keeps moving out. Disney, uni, and sw are going to err on the side of extreme caution.

Totally agree with you, as that is the best policy.

 

[themostuniquedisneyfamily]

will disney open in summer?

 

[mmackeymouse]

My point...Evidence suggests the governor of FL may be one of the earlier states to relax restrictions. That suggests FL may be one of the first states to relax rules allowing malls to open. I'll speculate Disney will open DS within a week of other malls in the Orlando area opening. I think the May 1 date is still a goal.

I can't see the resorts and theme park opening if guests from areas like NY and CA are restricted from entering FL.

FWIW--If without fans was the only issue TV shows and movies, without live audiences, would be shooting.

Like Pete likes to say, I think it's 6 to 5 and pick em on that. There are a lot of American travelers outside those states who travel to the theme parks. But, obviously NY and CA would be a huge chunk of people.

That said, I think people from outside those locales may be MORE likely to travel, knowing that tourists are not coming in from those hot zones. I tend to think people will be more hesitant to travel, knowing that they will be intermingling with people from NYC especially.

*not for nothing or nothing, but California cases per capita is actually not terrible, so I hate to single them out. In fact, number of cases is about equal to Florida, despite being a couple of weeks ahead on the curve and being a much more populated state.

So, yes, you might lose out on some big numbers from areas that will typically travel to WDW. But, you might gain numbers from people who feel safer traveling because of those restrictions.

There is an animal rescue group in China that I follow on Instagram. I first heard about COVID from them back in December. They just posted that China is getting their 2nd wave and everything is shutting down again. Looks like this is going to take a lot longer than we think

Alright, not to be too hopeful or give false hope, but I think second wave is a bit of a misnomer. China is a HUGE country. And, for the most part, it's not like the parts hit hard the first time are getting hit again. It looks like there are other areas of the country getting it, most notably near the Russian border. So, essentially, this is their first wave. It's similar to the States. Different areas are having it crop up at different times.

Not to say it isn't serious, and not to say it isn't sad. It is both those things. But, I think the best thing to do is just wait for more information to come out and see where things go.

I know some have been mentioning that WDW could start by opening just for resort guests. How hard would it be to get a room if that happened? Do you think they'd get swamped or would it be pretty easy? Considering rebooking our trip for July.

So, this is something I have been mulling over. If WDW works at reduced capacity, which I assume they would, they would almost have to shut down certain resorts. Of course, not all people will be going to the parks every day. But, they have to be prepared for the number of people going to the parks.

There are appx. 30-35 K hotel rooms on property, depending if you count DS/Wyndham/Swalphin. Imagine 4 people per room, give or take, and do the math. They can't book to capacity. They just can't. Not even close. For those reasons, and also to consolidate transportation/food/etc, I imagine they'd have to shut some resorts down. But, then, of course, the people at those resorts would have to get moved somewhere. Maybe someone at OKW gets moved to BC. Maybe someone at POR gets moved to Caribbean Beach resort.

Here is how I would see it shaking out: OKW and SSR would be closed, because of their huge capacity and being bus transportation only. I think they are going to minimize bus service as much as possible. I see POR shutting down, also because of its capacity, POFQ is smaller and more manageable, so I can see it staying open. CBR, although it has huge capacity, I could see staying open, because of its proximity to the Skyliner. It would also help to have the capacity to move other value/mod ressies to. I think some of the values get moved to Art of Animation/Pop Century. Maybe they leave one All Star Resort open. I could see AKV remaining open, just because it is such a good resort-only resort. Plus, the savannah and animals are already there and have to be cared for and maintained anyway. I think resorts that are on the monorail/Skyliner/walking distance to parks are gonna be what they will gravitate to leaving open. FW, because of the seclusion of individual campers/cabins I also think would be okay.

Because of all this, I would anticipate resorts to be very difficult to get into. You could have fewer resorts to choose from, but also there will be people moved from other resorts into the available vacancies. So, while I do think the parks may be light in capacity, resort reservations could be tough.

 

[skeeter31]

Like Pete likes to say, I think it's 6 to 5 and pick em on that. There are a lot of American travelers outside those states who travel to the theme parks. But, obviously NY and CA would be a huge chunk of people.

That said, I think people from outside those locales may be MORE likely to travel, knowing that tourists are not coming in from those hot zones. I tend to think people will be more hesitant to travel, knowing that they will be intermingling with people from NYC especially.

*not for nothing or nothing, but California cases per capita is actually not terrible, so I hate to single them out. In fact, number of cases is about equal to Florida, despite being a couple of weeks ahead on the curve and being a much more populated state.

So, yes, you might lose out on some big numbers from areas that will typically travel to WDW. But, you might gain numbers from people who feel safer traveling because of those restrictions.






Alright, not to be too hopeful or give false hope, but I think second wave is a bit of a misnomer. China is a HUGE country. And, for the most part, it's not like the parts hit hard the first time are getting hit again. It looks like there are other areas of the country getting it, most notably near the Russian border. So, essentially, this is their first wave. It's similar to the States. Different areas are having it crop up at different times.

Not to say it isn't serious, and not to say it isn't sad. It is both those things. But, I think the best thing to do is just wait for more information to come out and see where things go.





So, this is something I have been mulling over. If WDW works at reduced capacity, which I assume they would, they would almost have to shut down certain resorts. Of course, not all people will be going to the parks every day. But, they have to be prepared for the number of people going to the parks.

There are appx. 30-35 K hotel rooms on property, depending if you count DS/Wyndham/Swalphin. Imagine 4 people per room, give or take, and do the math. They can't book to capacity. They just can't. Not even close. For those reasons, and also to consolidate transportation/food/etc, I imagine they'd have to shut some resorts down. But, then, of course, the people at those resorts would have to get moved somewhere. Maybe someone at OKW gets moved to BC. Maybe someone at POR gets moved to Caribbean Beach resort.

Here is how I would see it shaking out: OKW and SSR would be closed, because of their huge capacity and being bus transportation only. I think they are going to minimize bus service as much as possible. I see POR shutting down, also because of its capacity, POFQ is smaller and more manageable, so I can see it staying open. CBR, although it has huge capacity, I could see staying open, because of its proximity to the Skyliner. It would also help to have the capacity to move other value/mod ressies to. I think some of the values get moved to Art of Animation/Pop Century. Maybe they leave one All Star Resort open. I could see AKV remaining open, just because it is such a good resort-only resort. Plus, the savannah and animals are already there and have to be cared for and maintained anyway. I think resorts that are on the monorail/Skyliner/walking distance to parks are gonna be what they will gravitate to leaving open. FW, because of the seclusion of individual campers/cabins I also think would be okay.

Because of all this, I would anticipate resorts to be very difficult to get into. You could have fewer resorts to choose from, but also there will be people moved from other resorts into the available vacancies. So, while I do think the parks may be light in capacity, resort reservations could be tough.

See now I would think OKW and SSR would remain open because they’re DVC and people who have them as their home resort would want to stay there, and being so big and spread out would be a bonus to people wanting to avoid close contact. I know when we return to the parks we’ll plan on staying in OKW because I’ll feel much more comfortable in an outdoor entry, no need to walk through a crowded entryway/lobby setting to get to my room. Plus, we spend a lot of time at the resort, so OKW presents a lot of walking and exploring opportunities.

 

[whodatdare]

Like Pete likes to say, I think it's 6 to 5 and pick em on that. There are a lot of American travelers outside those states who travel to the theme parks. But, obviously NY and CA would be a huge chunk of people.

That said, I think people from outside those locales may be MORE likely to travel, knowing that tourists are not coming in from those hot zones. I tend to think people will be more hesitant to travel, knowing that they will be intermingling with people from NYC especially.

*not for nothing or nothing, but California cases per capita is actually not terrible, so I hate to single them out. In fact, number of cases is about equal to Florida, despite being a couple of weeks ahead on the curve and being a much more populated state.

So, yes, you might lose out on some big numbers from areas that will typically travel to WDW. But, you might gain numbers from people who feel safer traveling because of those restrictions.






Alright, not to be too hopeful or give false hope, but I think second wave is a bit of a misnomer. China is a HUGE country. And, for the most part, it's not like the parts hit hard the first time are getting hit again. It looks like there are other areas of the country getting it, most notably near the Russian border. So, essentially, this is their first wave. It's similar to the States. Different areas are having it crop up at different times.

Not to say it isn't serious, and not to say it isn't sad. It is both those things. But, I think the best thing to do is just wait for more information to come out and see where things go.





So, this is something I have been mulling over. If WDW works at reduced capacity, which I assume they would, they would almost have to shut down certain resorts. Of course, not all people will be going to the parks every day. But, they have to be prepared for the number of people going to the parks.

There are appx. 30-35 K hotel rooms on property, depending if you count DS/Wyndham/Swalphin. Imagine 4 people per room, give or take, and do the math. They can't book to capacity. They just can't. Not even close. For those reasons, and also to consolidate transportation/food/etc, I imagine they'd have to shut some resorts down. But, then, of course, the people at those resorts would have to get moved somewhere. Maybe someone at OKW gets moved to BC. Maybe someone at POR gets moved to Caribbean Beach resort.

Here is how I would see it shaking out: OKW and SSR would be closed, because of their huge capacity and being bus transportation only. I think they are going to minimize bus service as much as possible. I see POR shutting down, also because of its capacity, POFQ is smaller and more manageable, so I can see it staying open. CBR, although it has huge capacity, I could see staying open, because of its proximity to the Skyliner. It would also help to have the capacity to move other value/mod ressies to. I think some of the values get moved to Art of Animation/Pop Century. Maybe they leave one All Star Resort open. I could see AKV remaining open, just because it is such a good resort-only resort. Plus, the savannah and animals are already there and have to be cared for and maintained anyway. I think resorts that are on the monorail/Skyliner/walking distance to parks are gonna be what they will gravitate to leaving open. FW, because of the seclusion of individual campers/cabins I also think would be okay.

Because of all this, I would anticipate resorts to be very difficult to get into. You could have fewer resorts to choose from, but also there will be people moved from other resorts into the available vacancies. So, while I do think the parks may be light in capacity, resort reservations could be tough.

Wow, this is really informative. So, I should probably book soon because if I wait it'll be hard to get a room if it happens!
Thank you!

 

[Spridell]

See now I would think OKW and SSR would remain open because they’re DVC and people who have them as their home resort would want to stay there, and being so big and spread out would be a bonus to people wanting to avoid close contact. I know when we return to the parks we’ll plan on staying in OKW because I’ll feel much more comfortable in an outdoor entry, no need to walk through a crowded entryway/lobby setting to get to my room. Plus, we spend a lot of time at the resort, so OKW presents a lot of walking and exploring opportunities.

I specifically have a reservation at OKW in June and July for this exact reason.

OKW and SSR are so spread out they are by far the 2 easiest resorts to open first. Social Distancing can DEF happen at these resorts.

I would think they would be 2 of the resorts that would open first.

 

[mhautz]

Because of all this, I would anticipate resorts to be very difficult to get into. You could have fewer resorts to choose from, but also there will be people moved from other resorts into the available vacancies. So, while I do think the parks may be light in capacity, resort reservations could be tough.

I don't KNOW if Disney would do this, but this concern is why I finally officially moved my May reservation to mid-July even though I was considering just waiting for a little more information. Basically, there is so much unknown about this summer with Disney World, the only thing I would say with "certainty" is that IF you are considering a summer trip, it's advantageous to put that reservation in sooner rather than later. It very well could just end up being cancelled with further delays in WDW's opening, but that reservation now might be the best way to guarantee you'll get in if they do open.

 

[Lewisc]

Like Pete likes to say, I think it's 6 to 5 and pick em on that. There are a lot of American travelers outside those states who travel to the theme parks. But, obviously NY and CA would be a huge chunk of people.

That said, I think people from outside those locales may be MORE likely to travel, knowing that tourists are not coming in from those hot zones. I tend to think people will be more hesitant to travel, knowing that they will be intermingling with people from NYC especially.

*not for nothing or nothing, but California cases per capita is actually not terrible, so I hate to single them out. In fact, number of cases is about equal to Florida, despite being a couple of weeks ahead on the curve and being a much more populated state.

So, yes, you might lose out on some big numbers from areas that will typically travel to WDW. But, you might gain numbers from people who feel safer traveling because of those restrictions.






Alright, not to be too hopeful or give false hope, but I think second wave is a bit of a misnomer. China is a HUGE country. And, for the most part, it's not like the parts hit hard the first time are getting hit again. It looks like there are other areas of the country getting it, most notably near the Russian border. So, essentially, this is their first wave. It's similar to the States. Different areas are having it crop up at different times.

Not to say it isn't serious, and not to say it isn't sad. It is both those things. But, I think the best thing to do is just wait for more information to come out and see where things go.





So, this is something I have been mulling over. If WDW works at reduced capacity, which I assume they would, they would almost have to shut down certain resorts. Of course, not all people will be going to the parks every day. But, they have to be prepared for the number of people going to the parks.

There are appx. 30-35 K hotel rooms on property, depending if you count DS/Wyndham/Swalphin. Imagine 4 people per room, give or take, and do the math. They can't book to capacity. They just can't. Not even close. For those reasons, and also to consolidate transportation/food/etc, I imagine they'd have to shut some resorts down. But, then, of course, the people at those resorts would have to get moved somewhere. Maybe someone at OKW gets moved to BC. Maybe someone at POR gets moved to Caribbean Beach resort.

Here is how I would see it shaking out: OKW and SSR would be closed, because of their huge capacity and being bus transportation only. I think they are going to minimize bus service as much as possible. I see POR shutting down, also because of its capacity, POFQ is smaller and more manageable, so I can see it staying open. CBR, although it has huge capacity, I could see staying open, because of its proximity to the Skyliner. It would also help to have the capacity to move other value/mod ressies to. I think some of the values get moved to Art of Animation/Pop Century. Maybe they leave one All Star Resort open. I could see AKV remaining open, just because it is such a good resort-only resort. Plus, the savannah and animals are already there and have to be cared for and maintained anyway. I think resorts that are on the monorail/Skyliner/walking distance to parks are gonna be what they will gravitate to leaving open. FW, because of the seclusion of individual campers/cabins I also think would be okay.

Because of all this, I would anticipate resorts to be very difficult to get into. You could have fewer resorts to choose from, but also there will be people moved from other resorts into the available vacancies. So, while I do think the parks may be light in capacity, resort reservations could be tough.

See now I would think OKW and SSR would remain open because they’re DVC and people who have them as their home resort would want to stay there, and being so big and spread out would be a bonus to people wanting to avoid close contact. I know when we return to the parks we’ll plan on staying in OKW because I’ll feel much more comfortable in an outdoor entry, no need to walk through a crowded entryway/lobby setting to get to my room. Plus, we spend a lot of time at the resort, so OKW presents a lot of walking and exploring opportunities.

Like Pete likes to say, I think it's 6 to 5 and pick em on that. There are a lot of American travelers outside those states who travel to the theme parks. But, obviously NY and CA would be a huge chunk of people.

That said, I think people from outside those locales may be MORE likely to travel, knowing that tourists are not coming in from those hot zones. I tend to think people will be more hesitant to travel, knowing that they will be intermingling with people from NYC especially.

*not for nothing or nothing, but California cases per capita is actually not terrible, so I hate to single them out. In fact, number of cases is about equal to Florida, despite being a couple of weeks ahead on the curve and being a much more populated state.

So, yes, you might lose out on some big numbers from areas that will typically travel to WDW. But, you might gain numbers from people who feel safer traveling because of those restrictions.






Alright, not to be too hopeful or give false hope, but I think second wave is a bit of a misnomer. China is a HUGE country. And, for the most part, it's not like the parts hit hard the first time are getting hit again. It looks like there are other areas of the country getting it, most notably near the Russian border. So, essentially, this is their first wave. It's similar to the States. Different areas are having it crop up at different times.

Not to say it isn't serious, and not to say it isn't sad. It is both those things. But, I think the best thing to do is just wait for more information to come out and see where things go.





So, this is something I have been mulling over. If WDW works at reduced capacity, which I assume they would, they would almost have to shut down certain resorts. Of course, not all people will be going to the parks every day. But, they have to be prepared for the number of people going to the parks.

There are appx. 30-35 K hotel rooms on property, depending if you count DS/Wyndham/Swalphin. Imagine 4 people per room, give or take, and do the math. They can't book to capacity. They just can't. Not even close. For those reasons, and also to consolidate transportation/food/etc, I imagine they'd have to shut some resorts down. But, then, of course, the people at those resorts would have to get moved somewhere. Maybe someone at OKW gets moved to BC. Maybe someone at POR gets moved to Caribbean Beach resort.

Here is how I would see it shaking out: OKW and SSR would be closed, because of their huge capacity and being bus transportation only. I think they are going to minimize bus service as much as possible. I see POR shutting down, also because of its capacity, POFQ is smaller and more manageable, so I can see it staying open. CBR, although it has huge capacity, I could see staying open, because of its proximity to the Skyliner. It would also help to have the capacity to move other value/mod ressies to. I think some of the values get moved to Art of Animation/Pop Century. Maybe they leave one All Star Resort open. I could see AKV remaining open, just because it is such a good resort-only resort. Plus, the savannah and animals are already there and have to be cared for and maintained anyway. I think resorts that are on the monorail/Skyliner/walking distance to parks are gonna be what they will gravitate to leaving open. FW, because of the seclusion of individual campers/cabins I also think would be okay.

Because of all this, I would anticipate resorts to be very difficult to get into. You could have fewer resorts to choose from, but also there will be people moved from other resorts into the available vacancies. So, while I do think the parks may be light in capacity, resort reservations could be tough.

Once Disney decides to open resorts I'll predict all the DVC resorts will open as soon as staffing allows. DVC members have points which have, or will shortly, expire. Disney needs to give them an opportunity to book. Opening the associated deluxe resort at the same time makes a lot of sense. Does it make sense to open AKL Jambo House DVC but not the rest of the resort. Light bookings. Guests who booked at a moderate resort could get a complimentary upgrade.

 

[Remy is Up]

will disney open in summer?

Questionable at this point

 

[mickeyfanachey1999]

See now I would think OKW and SSR would remain open because they’re DVC and people who have them as their home resort would want to stay there, and being so big and spread out would be a bonus to people wanting to avoid close contact. I know when we return to the parks we’ll plan on staying in OKW because I’ll feel much more comfortable in an outdoor entry, no need to walk through a crowded entryway/lobby setting to get to my room. Plus, we spend a lot of time at the resort, so OKW presents a lot of walking and exploring opportunities.

OKW is the best resort on property anyway

 

[mmackeymouse]

See now I would think OKW and SSR would remain open because they’re DVC and people who have them as their home resort would want to stay there, and being so big and spread out would be a bonus to people wanting to avoid close contact. I know when we return to the parks we’ll plan on staying in OKW because I’ll feel much more comfortable in an outdoor entry, no need to walk through a crowded entryway/lobby setting to get to my room. Plus, we spend a lot of time at the resort, so OKW presents a lot of walking and exploring opportunities.

You make a great point. But, I was looking at it as a way to get those numbers down within manageable capacity. If you leave those resorts open, which resorts could close? I couldn't see any on the monorail line closing. I don't see Yacht and Beach or Boardwalk closing. Wilderness Lodge? Maybe. I think it really could go either way. More spread out, more outdoor areas, outdoor entryways definitely go in their favor. Being able to slash capacity all in one fell swoop would go against them.

Also, like I said, I see them trying to minimize buses as much as possible. Not only for safety reasons, but financial reasons as well.

Wow, this is really informative. So, I should probably book soon because if I wait it'll be hard to get a room if it happens!
Thank you!

Oh please don't misunderstand. Not informative at all. This is complete speculation. I do think if you have a July reservation, you will probably be in decent shape, because they'll take care of you. I don't think it would hurt.

 

[UkDisney73]

If they opened the more expensive resorts first as many are thinking does that mean people like me in the all stars would have our reservations cancelled, although I don't go until the beginning of August which means they could all be open be then. I actually believe the parks will open in July, If I am able to still go, I'm quite excited by quieter parks because normally when I go (July and august) I spend most of my time in queues.

 

[Farro]

Like Pete likes to say, I think it's 6 to 5 and pick em on that. There are a lot of American travelers outside those states who travel to the theme parks. But, obviously NY and CA would be a huge chunk of people.

That said, I think people from outside those locales may be MORE likely to travel, knowing that tourists are not coming in from those hot zones. I tend to think people will be more hesitant to travel, knowing that they will be intermingling with people from NYC especially.

*not for nothing or nothing, but California cases per capita is actually not terrible, so I hate to single them out. In fact, number of cases is about equal to Florida, despite being a couple of weeks ahead on the curve and being a much more populated state.

So, yes, you might lose out on some big numbers from areas that will typically travel to WDW. But, you might gain numbers from people who feel safer traveling because of those restrictions.






Alright, not to be too hopeful or give false hope, but I think second wave is a bit of a misnomer. China is a HUGE country. And, for the most part, it's not like the parts hit hard the first time are getting hit again. It looks like there are other areas of the country getting it, most notably near the Russian border. So, essentially, this is their first wave. It's similar to the States. Different areas are having it crop up at different times.

Not to say it isn't serious, and not to say it isn't sad. It is both those things. But, I think the best thing to do is just wait for more information to come out and see where things go.





So, this is something I have been mulling over. If WDW works at reduced capacity, which I assume they would, they would almost have to shut down certain resorts. Of course, not all people will be going to the parks every day. But, they have to be prepared for the number of people going to the parks.

There are appx. 30-35 K hotel rooms on property, depending if you count DS/Wyndham/Swalphin. Imagine 4 people per room, give or take, and do the math. They can't book to capacity. They just can't. Not even close. For those reasons, and also to consolidate transportation/food/etc, I imagine they'd have to shut some resorts down. But, then, of course, the people at those resorts would have to get moved somewhere. Maybe someone at OKW gets moved to BC. Maybe someone at POR gets moved to Caribbean Beach resort.

Here is how I would see it shaking out: OKW and SSR would be closed, because of their huge capacity and being bus transportation only. I think they are going to minimize bus service as much as possible. I see POR shutting down, also because of its capacity, POFQ is smaller and more manageable, so I can see it staying open. CBR, although it has huge capacity, I could see staying open, because of its proximity to the Skyliner. It would also help to have the capacity to move other value/mod ressies to. I think some of the values get moved to Art of Animation/Pop Century. Maybe they leave one All Star Resort open. I could see AKV remaining open, just because it is such a good resort-only resort. Plus, the savannah and animals are already there and have to be cared for and maintained anyway. I think resorts that are on the monorail/Skyliner/walking distance to parks are gonna be what they will gravitate to leaving open. FW, because of the seclusion of individual campers/cabins I also think would be okay.

Because of all this, I would anticipate resorts to be very difficult to get into. You could have fewer resorts to choose from, but also there will be people moved from other resorts into the available vacancies. So, while I do think the parks may be light in capacity, resort reservations could be tough.

Blech!!! If this goes on until May 2021 (which I seriously doubt) I would cancel if they switched us from Gran Destino to any other moderate. I would ask if I could pay for upgrade if I could, or cancel.

 

[Jroceagles]

Questionable at this point

 

[mhautz]

If they opened the more expensive resorts first as many are thinking does that mean people like me in the all stars would have our reservations cancelled, although I don't go until the beginning of August which means they could all be open be then. I actually believe the parks will open in July, If I am able to still go, I'm quite excited by quieter parks because normally when I go (July and august) I spend most of my time in queues.

The one thing that makes me wonder if Disney is going to do some sort of limited opening is they don't appear to be proactively taking steps in that direction. Other than rumors about limiting fastpasses (which from anecdotal evidence appears at least somewhat true), it seems like they are business as usual when it comes to reservations after June 1. Maybe I'm being naive, but I don't think Disney would just flat out cancel Resort reservations when they are also open for business. If they are going to do something like that, they need to be more proactive with their plan and actually limit reservations before they come in. An established reservation can be moved/upgraded to consolidate, but it would be a bad business move to cancel (this might be the ONE thing Disney could do to me that would guarantee I don't come back)

 

[mmackeymouse]

If they opened the more expensive resorts first as many are thinking does that mean people like me in the all stars would have our reservations cancelled, although I don't go until the beginning of August which means they could all be open be then. I actually believe the parks will open in July, If I am able to still go, I'm quite excited by quieter parks because normally when I go (July and august) I spend most of my time in queues.

So, I don't believe the preference for the more expensive resorts over the value resorts would necessarily be because they are giving the more expensive resorts preferential treatment, and leaving value guests out to dry. IF they did it that way, I would say it's just the logistics of transportation and lower guest numbers make it easier to manage. This is all blanket guessing on my part. Please take it with a grain of salt.

I think a number of value guests may get upgraded to mods or maybe even SSR if it is left open. I can't see them just cancelling them completely....without offering some sort of incentive or compensation.

Blech!!! If this goes on until May 2021 (which I seriously doubt) I would cancel if they switched us from Gran Destino to any other moderate. I would ask if I could pay for upgrade if I could, or cancel.

I could see them leaving Gran Destino open, but closing the rest of CSR. Or maybe upgrade to Riviera, if there is capacity. Hopefully, you won't be affected by this.

 

[juice0358]

I referred to DS (Disney Springs). Many (most) of the establishments at DS aren't run by Disney. Calling a store manager or clerk back to work isn't rocket science. Discarding spoiled food and ordering new food for a restaurant may take a little time.

I think the governor at FL is going to want to open shopping close to May 1. I think Disney will want to open DS around the same time malls in Orlando open. Some places may open later. Some may never open.

Opening stores and restaurants too early (May 1) might undo all the progress. States like NY are going to err on the side of health and open later. States like FL are going to favor economic concerns and err on the side of possibly opening too early.

I honestly think POTUS is going to suggest states start to open up toward the end of April, beginning of May. I honestly think the governor of FL wants to be among the first states.

To be clear my logic doesn't apply to the resorts and theme parks. I can see Disney opening DS for locals. I can't see Disney opening the parks if residents from some states and countries are being told to self quarantine upon entering Florida.

Oh, I thought you meant the parks.

 

[DavidHobart]

You make a great point. But, I was looking at it as a way to get those numbers down within manageable capacity. If you leave those resorts open, which resorts could close? I couldn't see any on the monorail line closing. I don't see Yacht and Beach or Boardwalk closing. Wilderness Lodge? Maybe. I think it really could go either way. More spread out, more outdoor areas, outdoor entryways definitely go in their favor. Being able to slash capacity all in one fell swoop would go against them.

Also, like I said, I see them trying to minimize buses as much as possible. Not only for safety reasons, but financial reasons as well.








Oh please don't misunderstand. Not informative at all. This is complete speculation. I do think if you have a July reservation, you will probably be in decent shape, because they'll take care of you. I don't think it would hurt.

I don;t have an answer to propose yet, but my thinking about resorts is guided by the following:

The initial opening will be experimental, to see if Disney's operational planning actually works. Experience and revision will then guide further re-opening.

The key is to limit as much as possible settings where staying 6 feet away is hardest. Re the parks, this means (probably) limiting how much room capacity is available.

This privileges certain resorts (e.g. Fort Wilderness) and complicates opening for resorts with e.g. limited food court/food court substitute space--all the values and mods would fall into this, except for Coronado Springs.

DVC resorts--especially DVC resorts paired with deluxes--may open first. I get to the paired point because if the DVC opens before the deluxe, then all the amenity space can be assigned to the DVC folks, which will make 6 feet easier. DVC first also because of the expiring point issues, and the in-room dining facilities.

Altho it is off topic with which resorts open when, I'd also note that if the goal is to open the parks with 6 feet of distance, then it actually also makes sense to open them only to Florida residents at first, using that as part of the operational experiment. This limits demand, limits somewhat translation difficulties on social distance requirements, simplifies the options for guests who are not allowed to enter because of fever, or required to exit for not following social distancing rules, and manages a bit the risk of importing folks from hot spots.

 

[JPM4]

If they opened the more expensive resorts first as many are thinking does that mean people like me in the all stars would have our reservations cancelled, although I don't go until the beginning of August which means they could all be open be then. I actually believe the parks will open in July, If I am able to still go, I'm quite excited by quieter parks because normally when I go (July and august) I spend most of my time in queues.

No. In this scenario they would move you to AOA or Pop. If somehow those weren’t available you would be upgraded to a mod probably. There is NO way of Disney is open they would cancel anybody willing to go if the all stars weren’t open. They could consolidate everyone into one All Star though probably movies because all the renos are done there.