Cruise and Theme Park Operational Updates due to Coronavirus

[LSUmiss]

I fully disagree. I would like an emptier park. When I was younger it was. The crowds that now exist detract greatly. I suppose some people get "energy" from them. I find it suffocating. I'm really hoping crowds are much lower when we get back.

That’s what I’m thinking. We are Ap holders & fortunate to go often. I would be ok going with limited experiences available (within reason) with the hope that maybe it’ll be way less crowded. Part of the complaint right before all this is how much the crowds took away from the atmosphere.

 

[Farro]

It takes 30 days to make a habit (for adults, idk about kids), so now is a good time to start something new. This is coming from a nail biter of 26 years who stopped last year.

I think more importantly this should be a catalyst for people to start taking better care of themselves. Quit smoking, lose weight if needed - lower your risk of HTN, later onset diabetes and other diseases which can make Covid more deadly.
Our minority/poor neighborhoods need access to better healthcare. They need access to better grocery stores with fresh produce. Food deserts in cities are a real problem.

There is a LOT we can do to lessen the death-rate of Covid and a lot of it has nothing to do with social-distancing. I mean, if we want to have a real discussion about it.

Disney can't possibly stop the spread of Covid no matter what they do. Just like they can't stop the spread of flu. But we can better prepare ourselves and take necessary precautions. They will open and we can all do our part.

 

[e_yerger]

I posted this in another thread, but I think it would be an interesting talking point here and more on topic.

This is my big, pie in the sky, prediction for openings:

Phase 1. Disney Springs will open mid-late May
Phase 2. Disney Hotels will open mid-late June with parks open with limited hours, and open to resort (and good neighbor) hotels only. AP dates will continue to extend throughout this period. There will be social distancing & check point measures such as temperature checks, mask wearing requirements, and virtual queues for high demand rides. There will be no ride with a 10 min or longer standby queue.
Phase 3. Parks expand hours, and then open to people with multi-day tickets & AP. Social distancing perimeters still in place. Probably late July, early August. This is when the APs will stop extending. Disney will definitely have some APs that will get extra time (because they will come during Phase 2), but I believe they will eat those costs.
Phase 4. August & onward, open for full capacity, but still with social distancing perimeters.
Phase 5. Once new cases of COVID are at 0 for multiple weeks, they will remove social distancing perimeters.

This give Disney time to test their virtual queues, get some revenue coming through the parks & resorts, and also mediate the amount of gathering sizes.

 

[rojen]

Disney can't possibly stop the spread of Covid no matter what they do. Just like they can't stop the spread of flu.

Staying closed would definitely help stop the spread of covid.

Or are we gonna move into the dead center of the room, but 6 feet away from each other?

 

[Farro]

Staying closed would definitely help stop the spread of covid.

Or are we gonna move into the dead center of the room, but 6 feet away from each other?

Okay then.

 

[WeatherLights]

Here you go..
893,456.003.74/1243(1567-4509)+345,054/16~492,875.35= open in June

You mock me! Also, you put the decimal in the wrong place on the denominator so opening is actually not until September

 

[Farro]

I posted this in another thread, but I think it would be an interesting talking point here and more on topic.

This is my big, pie in the sky, prediction for openings:

Phase 1. Disney Springs will open mid-late May
Phase 2. Disney Hotels will open mid-late June with parks open with limited hours, and open to resort (and good neighbor) hotels only. AP dates will continue to extend throughout this period. There will be social distancing & check point measures such as temperature checks, mask wearing requirements, and virtual queues for high demand rides. There will be no ride with a 10 min or longer standby queue.
Phase 3. Parks expand hours, and then open to people with multi-day tickets & AP. Social distancing perimeters still in place. Probably late July, early August. This is when the APs will stop extending. Disney will definitely have some APs that will get extra time (because they will come during Phase 2), but I believe they will eat those costs.
Phase 4. August & onward, open for full capacity, but still with social distancing perimeters.
Phase 5. Once new cases of COVID are at 0 for multiple weeks, they will remove social distancing perimeters.

This give Disney time to test their virtual queues, get some revenue coming through the parks & resorts, and also mediate the amount of gathering sizes.

I'm going to say your phase 5 - they won't wait for 0 cases as that's almost an impossibility!

 

[Sunelis]

I think this article is on topic:
https://www.wdwinfo.com/news-storie...2-aHt5sjGvJtEf1Ae3nwITEhDl9DjGEy68UDhSKrHZmFM

Admins feel free to remove if not. But it's interesting.

 

[Disneylandmuggle]

I posted this in another thread, but I think it would be an interesting talking point here and more on topic.

This is my big, pie in the sky, prediction for openings:

Phase 1. Disney Springs will open mid-late May
Phase 2. Disney Hotels will open mid-late June with parks open with limited hours, and open to resort (and good neighbor) hotels only. AP dates will continue to extend throughout this period. There will be social distancing & check point measures such as temperature checks, mask wearing requirements, and virtual queues for high demand rides. There will be no ride with a 10 min or longer standby queue.
Phase 3. Parks expand hours, and then open to people with multi-day tickets & AP. Social distancing perimeters still in place. Probably late July, early August. This is when the APs will stop extending. Disney will definitely have some APs that will get extra time (because they will come during Phase 2), but I believe they will eat those costs.
Phase 4. August & onward, open for full capacity, but still with social distancing perimeters.
Phase 5. Once new cases of COVID are at 0 for multiple weeks, they will remove social distancing perimeters.

This give Disney time to test their virtual queues, get some revenue coming through the parks & resorts, and also mediate the amount of gathering sizes.

You’re not factoring in the second and third wave in late summer and fall and what about asymptomatic people. I’m sorry to be negative but I’m a realist and I just don’t think people are getting it.

 

[Farro]

I think this article is on topic:
https://www.wdwinfo.com/news-storie...2-aHt5sjGvJtEf1Ae3nwITEhDl9DjGEy68UDhSKrHZmFM

Admins feel free to remove if not. But it's interesting.

Is this a good thing or a bad thing? I can't tell!
Definitely interesting!

 

[Gordon Gekko]

I think you can bet on one thing in regards to businesses (Disney) and the economy in general. At some point soon things have to open up or a good percent of businesses won't survive period and unfortunately the money printing press has consequences.

 

[mshanson3121]

Is this a good thing or a bad thing? I can't tell!
Definitely interesting!

While I would like to say otherwise, I think it's a bad thing. My guess is it indicates Disney realizes their financial loss (from shut down) is going to last longer than planned/hoped for, and they're trying to secure funds now. Let's face it, if they really thought they'd be back up and running, generating income soon, they wouldn't need to do this.

 

[dynastyyanks]

The balance between limiting attendance and turning a profit will be interesting to see if/when the parks reopen. I keep waiting for someone on this thread to throw out some numbers on this! I, personally, have no idea what those numbers would be

Halve attendance and double price? Kidding, I hope.

 

[zebrastreyepz]

I posted this in another thread, but I think it would be an interesting talking point here and more on topic.

This is my big, pie in the sky, prediction for openings:

Phase 1. Disney Springs will open mid-late May
Phase 2. Disney Hotels will open mid-late June with parks open with limited hours, and open to resort (and good neighbor) hotels only. AP dates will continue to extend throughout this period. There will be social distancing & check point measures such as temperature checks, mask wearing requirements, and virtual queues for high demand rides. There will be no ride with a 10 min or longer standby queue.
Phase 3. Parks expand hours, and then open to people with multi-day tickets & AP. Social distancing perimeters still in place. Probably late July, early August. This is when the APs will stop extending. Disney will definitely have some APs that will get extra time (because they will come during Phase 2), but I believe they will eat those costs.
Phase 4. August & onward, open for full capacity, but still with social distancing perimeters.
Phase 5. Once new cases of COVID are at 0 for multiple weeks, they will remove social distancing perimeters.

This give Disney time to test their virtual queues, get some revenue coming through the parks & resorts, and also mediate the amount of gathering sizes.

I would never buy an AP again if they did this.

They have my money and there were no blackout dates when I purchased it.

 

[e_yerger]

I would never buy an AP again if they did this.

They have my money and there were no blackout dates when I purchased it.

You would still get the same amount of days to use your AP. People that stay on property during the phase 2 would have extra days on their APs.

 

[aibo]

I posted this in another thread, but I think it would be an interesting talking point here and more on topic.

This is my big, pie in the sky, prediction for openings:

Phase 1. Disney Springs will open mid-late May
Phase 2. Disney Hotels will open mid-late June with parks open with limited hours, and open to resort (and good neighbor) hotels only. AP dates will continue to extend throughout this period. There will be social distancing & check point measures such as temperature checks, mask wearing requirements, and virtual queues for high demand rides. There will be no ride with a 10 min or longer standby queue.
Phase 3. Parks expand hours, and then open to people with multi-day tickets & AP. Social distancing perimeters still in place. Probably late July, early August. This is when the APs will stop extending. Disney will definitely have some APs that will get extra time (because they will come during Phase 2), but I believe they will eat those costs.
Phase 4. August & onward, open for full capacity, but still with social distancing perimeters.
Phase 5. Once new cases of COVID are at 0 for multiple weeks, they will remove social distancing perimeters.

This give Disney time to test their virtual queues, get some revenue coming through the parks & resorts, and also mediate the amount of gathering sizes.

How will the parks and the Disney stores be able to sell merchandise ? Mickey plushies, corona virus can live for days....Vacuum pack everything ?

 

[Fido Chuckwagon]

Even adults don’t always listen so you’re never going to get everyone to do everything they are supposed to. However if you get some to that’s better than none. There are people today who still go out and about like nothing is going on when they are being told to stay home. Disney can do their part tho to help.

Right, I wasn’t being facetious when I said they should consider installing automatic disinfecting systems on their omnimovers. It’s possible. Office buildings in China now have them installed, they spray everyone who comes in. No reason you couldn’t design a system to spray down every boat on Peter Pan or every doom buggy on haunted mansion in between guests.

 

[zebrastreyepz]

You would still get the same amount of days to use your AP. People that stay on property during the phase 2 would have extra days on their APs.

I don't care. If they are open, I should be able to use my pass.

 

[Farro]

How will the parks and the Disney stores be able to sell merchandise ? Mickey plushies, corona virus can live for days....Vacuum pack everything ?

If people are nervous about it, they don't have to buy anything. No one is forcing them to, but it should be available for those of us who will want to make purchases.

I will buy the plushies. I will buy ALL the plushies...

 

[Fido Chuckwagon]

It's also not Disney's responsibility to make us not touch our own faces... it's our responsibility...... as human beings.....

Yeah the problem is, as a society, this is not something that can be beaten on an individual level. Because the inconsiderate 22 year old at Disney who doesn’t care and touches his face and doesn’t get that sick will go ont o infect a 60 year old, a 70 year old, etc. etc. So everyone talking about “personal freedom” is really talking about the freedom to get a lot of other older people or people with pre-existing conditions, or random people who are just plain unlucky, killed. So we can’t just say “personal responsibility,” we have to design systems that minimize the risk as much as possible.