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And, those that come in later now/before this announcement didn’t care to have a BG that day. I’d imagine there will still be a few people like that (albeit a tiny minority, I know). Some of the people that were there at 10 before, it’s because they wanted a BG and MAYBE little else. Say they get group 30, or whatever. Now they can come in at 11:30, do a Docking Bay lunch or shoot for MFSR, and have their group called.
Like @yulilin3 said, this will demonstrate the demand for MMRR or some of the other attractions.
As others said, I wonder if people who “fail” at obtaining a group will switch park reservations for the day to more empty parks? Is that a last minute option if a park has availability?
There there are people like my husband and I who will show up at park open regardless of having a BG, or having one and it being one that will be called later in the day, because we still want/need to ride everything that day and want to get a head start. He's never been to HS, so we'll be there regardless of what happens, and we'll probably be there early (and that is mainly in part to him waking up at 6 am or earlier no matter where he is or what he's doing). There will still be a ton of people there at park open I'm sure, wanting to get in line for something, so I can see this helping slightly but not as much as Disney is probably hoping it will (especially over thanksgiving where they still didn't extend the hours at all)
 
Or - and this will be us - if we get DO get one on our first HS day - I'm switching that second HS day to another park (i'm coming for you Figment). The only reason I picked two days there was to give me some cushion to get a boarding group.

Yes same with us. That’s what I was trying to say. I booked a second day for the cushion of getting a boarding group. If we get it on the first day I will be switching our second day to AK. We already have MK and Epcot. It’s a short 4 day trip.
 
I have a friend who had this reaction when I told him today (he's actually at HS today). He's like "so I could get a BG from *insert city name*?" and discussing how there would be some jerk AP holder with no intentions of going just getting a BG because they can. BUT that takes weeks of planning since HS reservations book up so far in advance.
And that’s exactly why there needs to be some sort of penalty for not showing up on your park reservation date. It’s so easy to cancel them (even day of) but there will definitely be people that will use one of their 3 days to book HS and try for boarding groups from far away with no chance of going. It should be if you fail to show for 2 or 3 Park reservations in a row you get a penalty period or something.
 

Or - and this will be us - if we get DO get one on our first HS day - I'm switching that second HS day to another park (i'm coming for you Figment). The only reason I picked two days there was to give me some cushion to get a boarding group.
We, as a family, LOVE Hollywood Studios, but find it easy to do what we want even now. If we get a BG our first day, AND can modify our one character meal out of the second HS day, we’d all much rather have a second AK day. While it’s been diminished significantly currently, it’s still such a beautiful park.
 
And that’s exactly why there needs to be some sort of penalty for not showing up on your park reservation date. It’s so easy to cancel them (even day of) but there will definitely be people that will use one of their 3 days to book HS and try for boarding groups from far away with no chance of going. It should be if you fail to show for 2 or 3 Park reservations in a row you get a penalty period or something.
I like the premise, so long as there was some grace period for day-of illness (of any kind going forward) or unforeseen circumstance. Like cancelling within an hour of park open or something. It might affect the morning distribution a little, but the people we’re talking about won’t meaningfully move the BG needle. Plus, their assigned group would effectively move quicker without their party present, allowing for a slightly larger afternoon “bucket.”
 
I like the premise, so long as there was some grace period for day-of illness (of any kind going forward) or unforeseen circumstance. Like cancelling within an hour of park open or something. It might affect the morning distribution a little, but the people we’re talking about won’t meaningfully move the BG needle. Plus, their assigned group would effectively move quicker without their party present, allowing for a slightly larger afternoon “bucket.”
Well as of now you can cancel a park reservation day of, even mid day, so if you have an unforeseen circumstance, you could always cancel. What hurts will be people booking park reservations just to play with the new VQ boarding groups and not going to the parks that day.
 
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Don't forget the plastic Camel that spits bubbles - which seems to be currently in vogue at WDW. Saw several items that spit out bubbles on our trip, but not the Camel (yet).

I have a friend who had this reaction when I told him today (he's actually at HS today). He's like "so I could get a BG from *insert city name*?" and discussing how there would be some jerk AP holder with no intentions of going just getting a BG because they can. BUT that takes weeks of planning since HS reservations book up so far in advance.

Not only APs, but I'm up in NH and still have 1 day left on a non-expiring ticket in my MDE. And there's still HS availability for the whole first week of November in the ticket holder bucket. I wouldn't try it, but I'll bet someone will.

As for folks not getting a BG and deciding to switch from HS to another park, they'd better be quick on doing that too.
 
Assuming an AP holder even did what’s being suggested and booked a HS day just to play around with getting a BG, since they are still planning to also do the 2pm drop as well (which doesn’t seem to have the new out of park rules) wouldn’t that just open up more spots later in the day because of the unused spots from the earlier drop allowing them to get through the BGs quicker?

Obviously even still. If you aren’t going to be there and at least make an attempt at using your reservation you really shouldn’t book one. But as someone with chronic illness who has to play most trips by ear once I get there, I feel like a penalty for missing a park day reservation would be kind of harsh. You already have the penalty of being out the money you spent on tickets for that day.
 
Someone in a facebook group of mine said they talked to a Disney rep and got this: "Response from Disney... For the first boarding group, you can be located anywhere as long as you are on Disney property. If you are at a different Walt Disney World® theme park or resort, you will still be able to join the boarding group there. We would recommend coming to the theme parks by 7:00 a.m. Eastern Standard Time in order to join the boarding queue. If you have resort reservations here at Walt Disney World®, you will be able to join the boarding group since you are within the Walt Disney World® vicinity. This simply means that you are on Disney resort property to join the boarding group. However, if you miss the first boarding group, you will need to be in Disney's Hollywood Studios® in order to join the second group. "

How would they even enforce that unless you had to be on the Disney WiFi or something? My first HS day is from a Universal Hotel, soooo

This screams like it came from a chat rep on the website. Reliability: Bus Driver > Phone Rep > Web Chat

I have a friend who had this reaction when I told him today (he's actually at HS today). He's like "so I could get a BG from *insert city name*?" and discussing how there would be some jerk AP holder with no intentions of going just getting a BG because they can. BUT that takes weeks of planning since HS reservations book up so far in advance.
The novelty of that will wear off fast.
 
If you aren’t going to be there and at least make an attempt at using your reservation you really shouldn’t book one. But as someone with chronic illness who has to play most trips by ear once I get there, I feel like a penalty for missing a park day reservation would be kind of harsh. You already have the penalty of being out the money you spent on tickets for that day.

There were penalties for people with the Disney flex passport AP at Disneyland.

With that AP you reserved your park days and if you had 3 no shows in 90 days, your pass was blacked out for 30 days, starting the day after the 3rd no show.

If no shows because of BG attempts become a problem at WDW, I could see them possibly implementing a penalty for APs like the Disneyland flex pass has.
 
We cancelled our July 2020 and moved it to March 2021. I have DVC so I have points I have to use by May 31.. so March is our last opportunity. I am curious as to any opinions or knowledge of if things will be more normal? Restaurants open etc. Thanks, KIM
 
More things will open as in restaurants and stores, but I wouldn’t expect much more. That’s not to say other things won’t either premiere like Rat, or fireworks returning (they’d have to rehire) and park hopping are definitely not possible, I just wouldn’t plan a trip if those things are needed on the vacation to make it worth it.

Most, if not all safety precautions will almost definitely be in play. With or without a vaccine, masks still being mandatory on property will 100% still be in tact
 
We cancelled our July 2020 and moved it to March 2021. I have DVC so I have points I have to use by May 31.. so March is our last opportunity. I am curious as to any opinions or knowledge of if things will be more normal? Restaurants open etc. Thanks, KIM
It’s extremely hard to say. One of the All Stars is opening in February. Thats the only new resort opening. I really don’t see any changes between now and May or June. Maybe a couple more restaurants. Masks will still be required. Parks will still have reduced hours. Lines will still be long with no FP+.
 
To early to tell. It’s going to depend on how bad things get in November/December. If we are lucky we will be back down to September levels of Covid by March. Which would still be twice as high as it was in May pre summer surge.

Wide spread vaccines won’t happen until Summer 2021.
 
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