Cruise and Theme Park Operational Updates due to Coronavirus

[Brianstl]

My guess is that Disneyland and DCL will get hardest on a percentage basis. Part of this an attempt to shock Newsom into action.

 

[Farro]

Man, I don't know what Disney is going to look like in a few years. I can see hotels between closed long-term.

We were waiting for a vaccine, but now it seems that isn't going to be good enough anymore - either will take too long, or people just won't get it, now everyone saying "oh end of 2021 we may start to see a hint of normalcy".
Every state is just following their own guidelines on who is quarantined, who can visit who, who actually enforces, you can come here but we can't go there.

How can any company in any kind of entertainment/food/beverage capacity survive this. No help in sight.

I'm buying a sailboat and taking off! With my cat!

 

[TwoMisfits]

My guess is that Disneyland and DCL will get hardest on a percentage basis. Part of this an attempt to shock Newsom into action.

This, exactly. I don't see Florida hit too badly, although anyone still furloughed in FL today is probably on the block...CA and DCL will get clobbered (I'd expect skeleton crews only to be kept for each)...

 

[Vern60]

DLP as well?

I'm not sure, the headline reads 28,000 domestic employees, but it doesn't mention that in either Josh's press release (the one he calls out California), or the employee email.

 

[Vern60]

My guess is that Disneyland and DCL will get hardest on a percentage basis. Part of this an attempt to shock Newsom into action.

I know, I couldn't help but think this is in part retribution for the state being either unwilling or unable to even give them some sort of guidelines or date. Maybe he's trying to play hardball and hoping this would hurt a Newsome re-election? I dunno

 

[andyman8]

This, exactly. I don't see Florida hit too badly, although anyone still furloughed in FL today is probably on the block...CA and DCL will get clobbered (I'd expect skeleton crews only to be kept for each)...

WDW still has a lot of CMs on furlough (or did). 21k union CMs were still on furlough prior to this announcement, and that’s just union CMs. When you count non-union WDW CMs, that figure could be even higher. The effects of this are definitely being felt at WDW, and while they mention PT, I’ve heard of talk that FT management has even been affected in some areas. Still don’t have a more specific idea.

 

[Vern60]

That pull up stakes and move to Texas is looking more viable by the day!

 

[rteetz]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1311045083857330176

Now this makes me think if/when Universal is going to make a similar announcement, but with less numbers impacted. I don't remember when and what their last trim was.

Universal already has made layoffs. They may do more but really Disney was the last to do so.

 

[Brianstl]

This, exactly. I don't see Florida hit too badly, although anyone still furloughed in FL today is probably on the block...CA and DCL will get clobbered (I'd expect skeleton crews only to be kept for each)...

This is over 20% of Parks, Experiences and Products total workforce getting laid off. over 10% of the whole company's workforce. So Florida will still get hit pretty hard, but it just won't be nearly as bad on a percentage basis.

 

[TwoMisfits]

That pull up stakes and move to Texas is looking more viable by the day!

I almost wondered if Disney was willing to do that - literally buy cheap land and transport attractions. I'd think Nevada desert would be more likely than Texas, though...at least cheaper...and if Florida was in swamp, no reason the west couldn't be desert...

I'm saying this only half-joking...

 

[Brianstl]

WDW still has a lot of CMs on furlough (or did). 21k union CMs were still on furlough prior to this announcement, and that’s just union CMs. When you count non-union WDW CMs, that figure could be even higher. The effects of this are definitely being felt at WDW, and while they mention PT, I’ve heard of talk that FT management has even been affected in some areas. Still don’t have a more specific idea.

Disneyland Resort has something like 30,000 on furlough.

 

[Farro]

I almost wondered if Disney was willing to do that - literally buy cheap land and transport attractions. I'd think Nevada desert would be more likely than Texas, though...at least cheaper...and if Florida was in swamp, no reason the west couldn't be desert...

I'm saying this only half-joking...

Its a dry heat.

 

[DGsAtBLT]

Super unpopular opinion given that I am amongst not only Disney fans but people who have already gone back (some multiple times), I don’t think it’s terrible for a government to be ultra cautious right now although it is obviously horrible for those who are out of work. I can’t pretend I wouldn’t be relieved with preventing huge tourist attractions from opening if there were any where I live.

It is way way way more complex than just villifying the California government as the bad guys who won’t let DLR open.

 

[gottalovepluto]

My guess is that Disneyland and DCL will get hardest on a percentage basis. Part of this an attempt to shock Newsom into action.

Anyone know about how many domestic employees DCL has? I would think a very small percentage but I really have no clue.

 

[TwoMisfits]

Super unpopular opinion given that I am amongst not only Disney fans but people who have already gone back (some multiple times), I don’t think it’s terrible for a government to be ultra cautious right now although it is obviously horrible for those who are out of work. I can’t pretend I wouldn’t be relieved with preventing huge tourist attractions from opening if there were any where I live.

It is way way way more complex than just villifying the California government as the bad guys who won’t let DLR open.

They didn't try to let them open in any way or any capacity, and thus I'm okay villifying them.

I've been saying since late May, after 60 days of an emergency, at that point you need to legislate the "no" properly or you need to figure out how to change the "no" to a "yes, but" and get creative...CA gov't has done neither...

 

[andyman8]

Anyone know about how many domestic employees DCL has? I would think a very small percentage but I really have no clue.

Not many, and while there will likely be layoffs amongst that small group, it will be small drop compared to how this will hit WDW, DL, and Disney Store. I’m hearing A LOT about Disney Store.

 

[gottalovepluto]

Super unpopular opinion given that I am amongst not only Disney fans but people who have already gone back (some multiple times), I don’t think it’s terrible for a government to be ultra cautious right now although it is obviously horrible for those who are out of work. I can’t pretend I wouldn’t be relieved with preventing huge tourist attractions from opening if there were any where I live.

It is way way way more complex than just villifying the California government as the bad guys who won’t let DLR open.

Pish! This isn’t the Independent Thoughts thread. My way of thinking or the highway for you!

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[DGsAtBLT]

They didn't try to let them open in any way or any capacity, and thus I'm okay villifying them.

I've been saying since late May, after 60 days of an emergency, at that point you need to legislate the "no" properly or you need to figure out how to change the "no" to a "yes, but" and get creative...CA gov't has done neither...

Yeah, like I said it’s an unpopular opinion.

 

[SMRT-1]

I'm buying a sailboat and taking off! With my cat!

Just you and the cat? Are you going to leave Micky behind?

 

[Farro]

Just you and the cat? Are you going to leave Micky behind?

I'm gonna need a bigger boat!