Cruise and Theme Park Operational Updates due to Coronavirus

[skeeter31]

I wish they would release the list of rides, attractions, hotels, and restaurants that will be open/closed. I am anxious to completely redo my plans.
And finally say something one way or the other on the water parks because the hours are still there.

I think rides and attractions may be a fluid situation. You may got a park one day and something like Buzz may be operating, but then it could be closed the next day. So I don’t think we’ll ever get a complete list of rides and attractions.

As for restaurants and hotels, it’s coming. We’re still over a month from the park opening. Give them some time. You’re not going to be able to make reservations for dining for a while anyway until the new system is operational.

 

[skeeter31]

I am very curious about this AP preview. Will they have like 2-3 day packages with resort stays to help with cms at the resorts? Will it just be you’re on your own for out of state APs? I have plenty of miles with southwest and would def entertain the idea of heading down if they did something like that.

I have a feeling the previews will just be Park previews. Mainly for in state APs and DVC since that will already be open and operational. They’re most likely not going to open themselves up to more resort reservations for only a couple days of previews. They have too many resort reservations as it is, they’re not going to want to encourage more.

And my guess is the previews will be even more restrictive than when the parks actually open.

 

[Chrissy-Mickey]

I am very curious about this AP preview. Will they have like 2-3 day packages with resort stays to help with cms at the resorts? Will it just be you’re on your own for out of state APs?

I hadn't thought of that, they might want to 'test' the resorts as well. Even as a local AP, I would be interested in a 2-3 day resort package for the AP preview.

 

[yulilin3]

I wish they would release the list of rides, attractions, hotels, and restaurants that will be open/closed. I am anxious to completely redo my plans.
And finally say something one way or the other on the water parks because the hours are still there.

I posted this on the thread on the TPAS forum

I watched a zoom meeting yesterday from the hotel and restaurant union where they explained how cm will be recalled and I am now convinced we won't get a clear answer on reservations or any other operational updates until all the cast has been set and that will take weeks. I don't think we'll get answers until maybe last week of June
They're going to start recalling full timers by seniority today, if they can't reach them, they will send letters. Then the cm has to decide if they are comfortable in returning to work or have any health issues that prevent them from doing so.
They go down the list of ft to fill positions as needed, then they will move to part timers, same process. Since CP won't be returning until probably next year they're going to need to get cm to agree to temporarily fill those positions, some cm will have to switch positions, like from attractions to quick service. Then obviously everyone will need 1 week of training.
All to say, Disney needs to know what is covered, and what might not be able to reopen. It's a human resource and scheduling madness.

 

[mhautz]

I wish they would release the list of rides, attractions, hotels, and restaurants that will be open/closed. I am anxious to completely redo my plans.

Has Universal even released this information about their rides?

 

[tcherjen]

I am so glad CM’s get to return to work. DD did the CP program a few years ago. She still has close friends who are waiting on the call. My DD and her family ( husband and 2 year old) decided not to join us on this trip. A little bummed, but we’d knew ultimately making a two year comply with the requirements was not going to happen.
( He takes off his shoes and socks, cannot imagine a mask ) I hope to find out soon on our room at FQ. I hope they will give me the opportunity to change if not open. I do not just want to be canceled.

 

[TakesFaithTrust&PixieDust]

I posted this on the thread on the TPAS forum

I watched a zoom meeting yesterday from the hotel and restaurant union where they explained how cm will be recalled and I am now convinced we won't get a clear answer on reservations or any other operational updates until all the cast has been set and that will take weeks. I don't think we'll get answers until maybe last week of June
They're going to start recalling full timers by seniority today, if they can't reach them, they will send letters. Then the cm has to decide if they are comfortable in returning to work or have any health issues that prevent them from doing so.
They go down the list of ft to fill positions as needed, then they will move to part timers, same process. Since CP won't be returning until probably next year they're going to need to get cm to agree to temporarily fill those positions, some cm will have to switch positions, like from attractions to quick service. Then obviously everyone will need 1 week of training.
All to say, Disney needs to know what is covered, and what might not be able to reopen. It's a human resource and scheduling madness.

Is it just certain lines of business who will be called today or is it other unions as well? Thanks for the great updates. Truly appreciated.

 

[yulilin3]

Has Universal even released this information about their rides?

The app now shows basically all the attractions will have a VL system. What we don't know is how many attractions reservations we can hold. My son is going tomorrow for TM preview and I'll be going Wednesday for AP preview, streaming from all 3 parks if anyone wants to watch

 

[yulilin3]

Is it just certain lines of business who will be called today or is it other unions as well? Thanks for the great updates. Truly appreciated.

all Unions have the same agreement, the calls for everyone FT will start today

 

[TakesFaithTrust&PixieDust]

all Unions have the same agreement, the calls for everyone FT will start today

Thank you

 

[Mit88]

I think they’ll get a chance to buy tickets when the public can buy tickets.

But by then, it’ll be too late. Even if theres very little demand compared to usual, the capacity is going to fill up almost immediately. I dont anticipate reservation availability at any park making it past the Resort Guests w/Tickets, Non Resort w/Tickets, and AP holders stage of the reservations.

 

[Krandor]

But by then, it’ll be too late. Even if theres very little demand compared to usual, the capacity is going to fill up almost immediately. I dont anticipate reservation availability at any park making it past the Resort Guests w/Tickets, Non Resort w/Tickets, and AP holders stage of the reservations.

agreed. I expect in the phasing resort without tickets will be above gp but after everybody with tickets and initially likely won’t get to that phase.

parties with a mix of people with and without Tickets are definitely in a bad spot.

 

[Mit88]

agreed. I expect in the phasing resort without tickets will be above gp but after everybody with tickets and initially likely won’t get to that phase.

parties with a mix of people with and without Tickets are definitely in a bad spot.

They gotta do what they gotta do to reduce capacity vs demand where they need to, whether its resorts, parks, or both. I understand the premise of what they’re doing, I just think they’re underselling the amount of people that dont buy tickets before a trip. Or maybe they’re not and are doing exactly what they intended.

I dont think any of the parks will have any capacity opening’s past the “first come” stage until the fall, at the earliest. Maybe I’m wrong in assuming the demand is much higher than people believe it will be, but I personally dont think it’s difficult to find ~60-65k (assuming each park is at 20% of the parks rumored max capacity) people per day that are in that “first come, first serve” bracket

 

[anthony2k7]

I posted this on the thread on the TPAS forum

I watched a zoom meeting yesterday from the hotel and restaurant union where they explained how cm will be recalled and I am now convinced we won't get a clear answer on reservations or any other operational updates until all the cast has been set and that will take weeks. I don't think we'll get answers until maybe last week of June
They're going to start recalling full timers by seniority today, if they can't reach them, they will send letters. Then the cm has to decide if they are comfortable in returning to work or have any health issues that prevent them from doing so.
They go down the list of ft to fill positions as needed, then they will move to part timers, same process. Since CP won't be returning until probably next year they're going to need to get cm to agree to temporarily fill those positions, some cm will have to switch positions, like from attractions to quick service. Then obviously everyone will need 1 week of training.
All to say, Disney needs to know what is covered, and what might not be able to reopen. It's a human resource and scheduling madness.

That's a really good point. How can they know how much they can even offer to reopen until they know how many CM are still wanting to return to work and feel it is safe to do so.

 

[anthony2k7]

The app now shows basically all the attractions will have a VL system. What we don't know is how many attractions reservations we can hold. My son is going tomorrow for TM preview and I'll be going Wednesday for AP preview, streaming from all 3 parks if anyone wants to watch

That's going to be interesting to watch, potentially a lot more interesting than watching citywalk/springs reopening was.

 

[cakebaker]

forget the script. I want to know if anybody has talked to Sven for the real insude info?

Forget Sven, someone else accurately predicted the opening date. All that time I spent following the insiders and there it was.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1257490315247792131

https://twitter.com/x/status/1265671473450094594

 

[Krandor]

They gotta do what they gotta do to reduce capacity vs demand where they need to, whether its resorts, parks, or both. I understand the premise of what they’re doing, I just think they’re underselling the amount of people that dont buy tickets before a trip. Or maybe they’re not and are doing exactly what they intended.

I dont think any of the parks will have any capacity opening’s past the “first come” stage until the fall, at the earliest. Maybe I’m wrong in assuming the demand is much higher than people believe it will be, but I personally dont think it’s difficult to find ~60-65k (assuming each park is at 20% of the parks rumored max capacity) people per day that are in that “first come, first serve” bracket

agreed but the thing is no matter how they do the priority system of reservations somebody will not be happy. I think we agree onsite with tickets is first. Who is second? You can make arguments for passes being second and for offsite with dated tickets being second and even onsite without tickets being second. However they are going to have to pick one to be second and people not in that group will argue they should have been.

with limited slots there is no way to make everybody happy And I feel for people who are going to be left out.

 

[Mit88]

agreed but the thing is no matter how they do the priority system of reservations somebody will not be happy. I think we agree onsite with tickets is first. Who is second? You can make arguments for passes being second and for offsite with dated tickets being second and even onsite without tickets being second. However they are going to have to pick one to be second and people not in that group will argue they should have been.

with limited slots there is no way to make everybody happy And I feel for people who are going to be left out.

Absolutely. There will never be a 100% satisfaction rate in regards to Disney. Didn’t take this situation to know that. I do think onsite w/tickets are first, I dont think thats arguable tbh. But as you said, who goes next could be argued by almost any other situation. But we dont know what will come of the AP situation. If Disney is supposedly going to “make it right” for those holders, I wouldnt be surprised if straight AP holders are lower on the totem pole. I think its safe to say they’re basically going to be getting into the parks for free at the start, the same way Shanghai AP holders are currently. But if they cant even make reservations because they’re low on the totem pole, then whats the point of having “free” entrance if you’re not getting in the parks? I guess if AP holders are told in advance what Disney is going to do for them and its generous enough, they might be able to get away with putting them towards the bottom of the priority list. But again, they could offer AP holders a 5 year extension and there would be people that would rather be able to go just the 1st day they’re re-open

 

[EveDallas]

I’m not exactly sure theyre “more strict”. Having you put belongings in a locker isnt being strict. Just like Disney allowing you to bring stuff on rides isnt being lenient. If anything I think lockers, outside of Waterparks are tacky and purely there as a money grab. Who’s loose change is falling out of their pockets on MIB? Is Disney more strict not having smoking sections in their parks anymore while Universal still allows it? And I’m not talking about rule breakers that smoke in Disney parks, the majority walk out the gates to go smoke and come back in.

Point is, at regular times there are certain things each company is strict about, and will turn a blind eye on at times. Some they’re strict and wont tolerate. Some rules theyre both too lenient on. But I do know that this is not a typical situation in regular times. Both companies will put their foot down on this issue when it comes to the theme parks. Their shopping districts are not exactly a metric of which to assume they’re going to follow on

The lockers are free (except for the water rides which allow you to bring things on) so how is it a money grab?

 

[mhautz]

agreed but the thing is no matter how they do the priority system of reservations somebody will not be happy. I think we agree onsite with tickets is first. Who is second? You can make arguments for passes being second and for offsite with dated tickets being second and even onsite without tickets being second. However they are going to have to pick one to be second and people not in that group will argue they should have been.

with limited slots there is no way to make everybody happy And I feel for people who are going to be left out.

I kind of feel like given all that has happened, Disney "needs" guests that fit two requirements right now, 1. They have already shown serious intent to go even in light of what's happening, and 2. They are flexible. A lot of the changes are going to weed out people who don't meet these criteria and I don't think that's a bad thing while capacity will be so limited. If you hadn't put your money where your mouth is up until now, I think it's perfectly fair that you get excluded in the beginning. If you were hedging your bets, then you acknowledged you might come out empty. Sorry, not meaning to sound harsh. It still all sucks, but nowadays, that's the normal, isn't it?

Still, Disney World will be there in the future and whether I go in July or 2022, it may be different, but that doesn't mean it won't still be magical.