Copper Creeks Resale down the road

[BWV Dreamin]

While that makes sense to me (DVC doesn't want to limit their assignment flexibility if at all possible- remember the connecting issue at the Poly), chances are very good that the fixed week reservations will end up in a dedicated villa at CCV, since the fixed weeks are the first to be booked. AFAIK, DVC always books the dedicated villas first if they aren't a separate booking category (like the 2 bedrooms at BCV, for example). By booking the dedicated villas first, they maintain the flexibility to combine the lock off villas to book as a larger villa. This is the way is is done at the BWV - first bookings are assigned to the dedicated villas (studios and 1 bedrooms), before splitting up the 2 bedroom lock offs. The dedicated villas are not a separate booking category for members, but they do appear that way to MS. That's also why sometimes you can't stay in the same room when going from a 2 bedroom to a studio or vice versa, or are mixing a cash reservation made via DRC with a points reservation.

Anyway, if you want a dedicated villa (and that would be my first choice, too), chances are very, very good you will have one with the ixed week purchase.

Thank you Carol. Ill just stick to requesting a floor location, view etc. You’ve been most helpful!!

 

[SL6827]

When the next recession comes, and it will very soon, prices will drop 25% or more. Any one remember 2008-9...

I am thinking your right on this one.

 

[BillPA]

I am thinking your right on this one.

I hope not, but it sure looks like we're headed that way.

 

[SL6827]

I hope not, but it sure looks like we're headed that way.

Ya, I believe so. I mean of course a recession will eventually hit, plentiful times do not last forever and neither does a recession. I have a feeling I am going to be kicking myself for not waiting a little longer to buy in. But, maybe just maybe I could get some extra points cheap.

 

[deerh]

When the next recession comes, and it will very soon, prices will drop 25% or more. Any one remember 2008-9...

Not so sure about that...According to the chart above, the recession of 2008-2009 years, DVC went up in price. Now, not so sure about resale prices,
but the initial price sure went up those years. I have owned BWV for 19 years, and I don't ever remember it going DOWN in price... Maybe stagnant for a year or two, but not down... Could be wrong, but don't think so....

 

[Bing Showei]

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Not so sure about that...According to the chart above, the recession of 2008-2009 years, DVC went up in price. Now, not so sure about resale prices,
but the initial price sure went up those years. I have owned BWV for 19 years, and I don't ever remember it going DOWN in price... Maybe stagnant for a year or two, but not down... Could be wrong, but don't think so....

Incentives during the recession had gone up, but DVC direct prices have never gone down. No one has ever made that assertion.

 

[The Jackal]

I see CCV resale prices fall right below GFV and PVB. I do not see the direct price shooting up to PVB or GFV direct prices. BLT resale prices are the lowest for the Monorail resorts. I personally don’t see why BCV resale is so high. I know SAB is very nice, but there are no good views, like theme park or savana view. This is just my opinion. BCV is a lot smaller than BWV. The smaller the resort the more demand there seems to be. The more demand the higher the resale price.

 

[KAT4DISNEY]

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Not so sure about that...According to the chart above, the recession of 2008-2009 years, DVC went up in price. Now, not so sure about resale prices,
but the initial price sure went up those years. I have owned BWV for 19 years, and I don't ever remember it going DOWN in price... Maybe stagnant for a year or two, but not down... Could be wrong, but don't think so....

The effective prices did decrease because they increased the incentives. Offered cruises, free APs and large discounts off the price per point. The charts did not track that.

 

[deerh]

The effective prices did decrease because they increased the incentives. Offered cruises, free APs and large discounts off the price per point. The charts did not track that.

The chart tracks current and past offers of DVC from 1999.. Where is a chart that shows "resales" from 1999-2018? That would be interesting to see....

 

[KAT4DISNEY]

The chart tracks current and past offers of DVC from 1999.. Where is a chart that shows "resales" from 1999-2018? That would be interesting to see....

As I mentioned that did not track the real price of DVC direct. What they listed as the "price" was only applicable to 25 point add on's. 50 points and higher were less. Often much, much less. Where VGC showed that $112 or $120 some discounts made it an actual $88/point out of pocket.

Resale wouldn't be possible to track as its negotiable and always has a range.

 

[kboo]

Apolitically, a large component of the quarterly 4.1 GDP growth was a result of China shifting its purchase of soybeans from the US to Brazil. They announced the impending retaliatory tariffs back in March, so farmers expedited product out to a China and when China shut down the imports and soaked up Brazil’s supply, US product got moved to Thailand, Scandinavia, and other importers in a mad dash to get ahead of trade wars. Great for the last couple of months, but sustainable long term impact on GDP? Not so much. Presently soybean farmers are looking at 2009 levels for future contracts. It’s what happens when a customer who bought 60% of your goods goes to your competitor.

Consumer spending is going to your biggest driver of the economy. Q1 GDP numbers were revised down upon review of consumer spending trends. Some estimate they are at five year lows. If one wants to be rosy and look instead at GDI, great, but that number reflects corporate profits reflective of the tax cuts. Proponents of supply-side economics (looks @ziravan) will argue that this is the beginning of corporation spending which will in turn spur economic growth in wages, etc. But until a corporate tax cut bucks the historical reality, tax cuts for corporations don’t increase people’s wages. Which won’t boost consumer spending.

Unless of course you count corporations as people.

Oh no he di’n’t just go there.

I didn't bother to read this thread until today because I have no interest in buying CCV (any time soon). But this was worth it!!