Come here to argue politics and loose your temper and embaress yourself


Excuse me for having an opinion.
Obama is RACIST.
He's not terrible. But I really don't want someone hating our race to rule our country.

YOU DO NOT KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT. Please, just stop talking.

I wouldn't vote anyway.
All of my sisters friends that recently turned eighteen, voted for Obama as a JOKE.


You have an opinion and I have mine.
So, leave mine alone. Okay?


Well that's stupid but at least they helped him beat McCain by a landslide. Thank them for me. :)


His tax plans wont do crap. Yes it looks good on paper and yes it will lower taxes for what is it 95% of Americans, but it wont work.

If Obama starts taxing this major corporations, they are going to increase their price of their product. So your net gain = 0. Dont belive me?? look at when gases prices went up. Companies small or big started to charge gas fees to insure that they were still making the same profit. Same thing with major corporations


Except for the fact this is going to bring back the middle class and the middle class it the backbone of the United States and what kept us doing well with a successful economy during the Clinton reign.


Also remember that the president doesn't really have as much power of the treasury as you may think. It's congress.
 
I went through the DODMERB's (Department of Defense Medical Examination Review Board) this summer in my process to apply to the United States Air Force Academy. You definetly can join the military without perfect vision. The only thing that you might not be able to do is fly, however the Air Force Academy will pay for your eye repair if becoming a pilot is what you want to do, after their approved operation, you will then become eligible to fly.

You do have to be able to complete boot camp/basic cadet training in order to join the military, however if you push yourself you will be able to do this...it is totally mind over matter...If any of you have seen A Few Good Men...the movie is based on a true story...For those of you who haven't...A man had lost his leg while serving in the Navy...but pushed himself and became a diver for them with a prostetic leg.

I know the Academy's will also pay for you to recieve you're masters and PHD degrees. The GI bill that addicted.to.speed was talking about is also a great option to have the military/government pay for your college in whole.

Sadly, if my hypothetical boyfriend and I don't last forever and I somehow, someway, in the future decide that I'm in love with a woman that can't happen. First the ban on gays in the military needs to be repealed.

Unless you are polytheistic or Buddhist, you believe in the same God. The difference is in the Messiah (Human son of God). Jews don't think he has come yet, Christians believe it was Jesus, and Muslims believe it was Mohammad. Although the Koran and Bible are slightly different, they share almost all of the same basic principles. The Jews have the same Bible as Christians, they're just excluding the half that talks about Jesus.

76.5% of the United States is Christian. 1.3% is Jewish. .5% is Muslim. So roughly 80% of the country believes in God. That means for every 4 people who say there is a God, there is 1 who believes there isn't one or they believe in a very different religion. I don't get why it upsets people that under god is in the pledge when 80% percent of america believes in god...if you don't want to say it, then don't...but you can still say the rest of the pledge...noone is forcing you to say the words under god.

The Messiah is the human son of god, yes. Unfortunately Muslims don't believe that it was Muhammad. He was a prophet. Yes, technically it is the same god, but it's a completely different set of ideals and beliefs in each religon.

I'm gonna be honest right now. I don't say the pledge because I think it's dumb. It's a stupid string of lines that the creator never wanted made official. They're meaningless words. The most radical terrorist on the face of this earth could recite the pledge one day as a way of concealing his identity and then blow up an office building, but some people would never believe he did it because he was "patriotic enough to recite the pledge".

To me, it's a persons actions that make them patriotic, not their words.
 
Sadly, if my hypothetical boyfriend and I don't last forever and I somehow, someway, in the future decide that I'm in love with a woman that can't happen. First the ban on gays in the military needs to be repealed.



The Messiah is the human son of god, yes. Unfortunately Muslims don't believe that it was Muhammad. He was a prophet. Yes, technically it is the same god, but it's a completely different set of ideals and beliefs in each religon.

I'm gonna be honest right now. I don't say the pledge because I think it's dumb. It's a stupid string of lines that the creator never wanted made official. They're meaningless words. The most radical terrorist on the face of this earth could recite the pledge one day as a way of concealing his identity and then blow up an office building, but some people would never believe he did it because he was "patriotic enough to recite the pledge".

To me, it's a persons actions that make them patriotic, not their words.
you + aim=happyshelby.
 
i dont see it.
i just go by what my dad says.
he goes to a white hating church.

You cant be serious.
You can NOT be serious right now.

BECOME AN INDIVIDUAL.
Get your OWN opinions.
Your dad obviously doesnt know what hes talking about.

WATCH THE NEWS.
Do your research!
Get out from under your rock and become your own person.

I hate when people just follow what their parents think.
fh jedhujufy789ewn jikhjkndskl .
 
Bewara long but very good post QFT =quoted for truth
:thumbsup2

I was trying to find a way to say that, but couldn't because I was too angry/frustrated/upset.
why?

How fantastic.

Watch out America.
WERE GONNA DIE.
I lost respect towards you
Yeah, we "were" going to die if Obama lost. We're not going to die because McCain lost.

I guess if you're going to say something so stupid you might as go all the way and say it incorrectly...
I agreee say it all

gonna have to dodge bullets when i say this but, look for a recession in the very near future.
WE ARE In ONE

yes, i realize we are already in a recession, but he will put us in a deeper recession. how is a man gonna help us, by raising taxes stealing on the people who make 250,000 dollars a year, people who worked there whole lives to get obtain their success, and giving it to the people who cannot and will not work for their own money, and cut taxes on them?


who is that going to help our economy?
False a lot of people work hard 86 percent to be exact

Excuse me? Just because people don't make $250,000 does not mean they will not and dont work for their own money.
QFT and same opinion

Who says that all people who don't make 250,000 a year are not hard workers? There are lots of people out there that are working several jobs just to make ends meet. Don't make a blanket statement that is not true.
QFT and same opinion


I voted obama, but um...if you can't afford a 4 year college, why not go to a community college? In California, if you make under a certain amount your college is paid for AND you get up to 6 thousands dollars to help your living situation/buying books/etc every year. From there you can either accept your A.A. degree, or transfer to a 4 year college (state colleges aren't crazy expensive, and have a multitude of ways to get the money to go). I'm sorry, I know going into debt is bad, but the education you receive in this day and age basically determines your future (besides poor teachers :sad2: ).

I also don't think that Obama is going to be able to give 95% of the nation tax cuts. I know that "middle class" is different everywhere. I'm middle class in my area, but my family's net worth is well over a couple million dollars. You go an hour south and the middle class there has a net worth significantly less.

I believe that the effort is what counts though. Though he may not be able to do everything he promised (I've never heard of a president who did such a thing), I believe that he's going to bring new ideas to the plate that may not "save the world" (his words not mine, haha), but could bring a little peace to this crazy nation of ours. As long as he doesn't leave us in the shambles we're in, I'll be proud to say that Obama is the first president I've voted for.
YEs in my area there is a low and higher middle class.High are the doctors ,lawwers agents of kinds etc,Low food sales unless manger you get my drift

I think someone will attempt to assassinate Obama at least once.
I agree ,I am praying for him and his family.

Excuse me for having an opinion.
Obama is RACIST.
He's not terrible. But I really don't want someone hating our race to rule our country.
That made me not respect you at alll.Youa re saying your white races it the only good one and only one mattters.WRONG everyone matters no matter of race.I for one even know a few blacks who voted for nader and mcain?


Not trying to combat your opinion here, because I share it in a general sense.
There are people ready, willing, and plotting to assassinate every president. If there are more than average attempts on Obama's life- this country has failed me. (And psst they already uncovered a plot a few weeks ago)

If we can't grow from our past, then our future will never change.
QFT and same opinion

I wouldn't vote anyway.
All of my sisters friends that recently turned eighteen, voted for Obama as a JOKE.


You have an opinion and I have mine.
So, leave mine alone. Okay?
REally? wow if pppl like susan anthony saw that she would be digraced of .Why would you do such a thing after alll that was fought for women vote ?women sufrage?
show me one single racist comment that president obama has made. please.
I would like to see one too please.
This was expected. No surprise to me. I almost cried when they announced it with his picture. I saw how happy those people were and how hard blacks have fought for this moment. It just really got to me.
Explain more please.I am not following

America has many different races. None is better than the other.
You think Obama's racist? Maybe you should take a look at your last sentence before you speak, because you are coming off as incredibly racist.(towards cassidy)
QFT and same opinion


I'm moving to Australia.
:confused3
WHY??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????/

All I am going to say is Obama has done nothing yet. Lets just see if he can back up what he promised/said. In the end, he is still a polotician....

Also, everybody has the right to their own opinion, and they do not deserve to be attacked if it differs from someone elses.

Ok, thats all :thumbsup2
QFT and same opinion


hey, don't fight

I suport Obama but I did like Macain

what happens will happen
and we will meet it when it comes (taken from harry potter)
QFT and same opinion
love the quote btw
Yeah, Obama is our first black president... so what? Uhmm he's not black! His mom is white and his dad is from Kenya, his white grandmother even helped raise him. And the sad part is, I'm sure 75% of his votes were simply because he's black. Some Obama supporters- don't even know his policies? his background?

One of his ideas is to basically "take from the rich and give to the poor." I am not rich by any means, but if I happen to be rich someday it'll be because I worked my butt off to get it and I EARNED IT and I sure won't want anyone to take that away from me just to be "equal" money-wise. They should have to earn it themselves, just like everyone else that worked their butt off to get where they are.

Obama: He will not salute the AMERICAN FLAG, he will not wear the flag, he will not say the Pledge of Allegiance... And do you know what it means when you say the Pledge? - You're saying that you are loyal to our country. So what do you think it means that Obama REFUSES to say the Pledge????

To me that's saying: He is not loyal to our country. He does not respect us as Americans, nor does he respect those who died for our flag or those who serve for it now. It ticks me off that so many people voted for him just because of his color. Not to mention the fact that the media gave him WAY more airtime than any of the other candidates. What happened to "fair and balanced?" NEWSFLASH people! You can't always trust what you see on TV.

I am not in any means racist. I'm not saying that Obama will turn this country upside down.. He's a good man, and will most likely make a wonderful president.. I'm just upset because people voted for him, not for what he stands for but because they saw a black man standing behind the podium. But I hope he does a good job, and from what I've seen other than the things ive named that I dont like about him.. he seems like he'll do a good job.
HE is black! he does salute and does more patriotic things than mc?Cain
How do you know he wont stand for the pledge and receite it? He wears an American Flag pin on his collar, unlike Mccain. So please. Don't even say Obama is not loyal to our country.

Secondly, he IS part black. Just because his mom was white and he was raised by a white person, doesn't mean hes not black. :rolleyes:

How do you know most people only voted for him because he was black? Do you have statistics on this? A lot of people voted for him for his policies, not because of his skin colour.
QFT and same opinion My mom is part white does that mean i am not black? answer please i would like to know(towards cindy)

I have only read half the thread :(
 
Bewara long but very good post QFT =quoted for truthwhy?


I lost respect towards you
I agreee say it all

WE ARE In ONE

False a lot of people work hard 86 percent to be exact

QFT and same opinion

QFT and same opinion


YEs in my area there is a low and higher middle class.High are the doctors ,lawwers agents of kinds etc,Low food sales unless manger you get my drift

I agree ,I am praying for him and his family.

That made me not respect you at alll.Youa re saying your white races it the only good one and only one mattters.WRONG everyone matters no matter of race.I for one even know a few blacks who voted for nader and mcain?



QFT and same opinion


REally? wow if pppl like susan anthony saw that she would be digraced of .Why would you do such a thing after alll that was fought for women vote ?women sufrage?

I would like to see one too please.

Explain more please.I am not following

QFT and same opinion



WHY??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????/

QFT and same opinion



QFT and same opinion
love the quote btw

HE is black! he does salute and does more patriotic things than mc?Cain
QFT and same opinion My mom is part white does that mean i am not black? answer please i would like to know(towards cindy)

I have only read half the thread :(



Something extra, but WOW! That's a lot of quotes!
 
The Clinton reign benefited from a good time to be in office, he took all the benefits for Regans and older Bushs policies. If you look back none of those were actually his policies.
 
this is probably going to be the worst thing i have ever said on these boards, but thank god that half of the uninformed on here were not old enough to vote. sorry, in advance.

in short, do your research before flapping your lips on the interwebs. really, we all dont want to hear whining about why the person you had no part in voting for won or didnt win.
 
I just have to say one thing about this election, How can SO MANY uneducated and ignorant people be able to vote. I have no problem with Obama winning at all, I was leaning towards him in the beggining, but started leaning towards McCain in the end. I was all for McCain till his VP choice as well but oh well. That is besides the point, I can't vote anyways so I pretty much have no say :/
But the MAIN reasons Obama won is for the following reasons,

1. Everybody hated Busch so much they could not stand to have another Republican in there. I believe the Republican party new this, hense Palin being VP and they knew nobody would like that. Republicans will come back in 2012. [as long Palin doesn't run :rolleyes: ]

2. Obama is black. Sorry but that is a pretty big factor on how he won. He is POPULAR. He convinced the younger generation to vote. Of course most of the younger generation is going to go for that cool young guy. Don't get me wrong I am sure there were A LOT of educated young voters, but there were a lot of uneducated voters as well. Take for example this one girl [who is black might I add, but there were white people like this as well...] at my work who is 19 our convo went like this:
Me: "who did you vote for?"
Her: "Obama of course"
Me: "why did you vote for him?"
Her: "oh not just because he was black[I never mentioned that to this point...] I really like his polocies."
Me: "And, which ones did you like?"
Her: "umm, Well I really liked his education plan."
Me: "And what was that exactly?"
Her: "uhhmmm, well I just really liked it."

Like honestly how many more people voted like this. It just ticks me off to no end. & then they show all the people crying on TV how Obama is the first black president. I know it is a big deal, and it is making history. But shouldn't people be happy about what he is going to do with this country, not just his skin color. I am praying our country does not fall apart in the next four years. Honestly I would be praying this even if McCain won. Our country is CRAP right now. I just wish people would educate themselves before voting.

Oh and another thing, Obama won by around 50% in most of the states. That means pretty much half the country likes him, half the country hates him. I have a feeling this is going to be a very long four years, and I just hope he does not get hurt. :[

This is a really long rant pretty much, sorry lol.
 
this is probably going to be the worst thing i have ever said on these boards, but thank god that half of the uninformed on here were not old enough to vote. sorry, in advance.

in short, do your research before flapping your lips on the interwebs. really, we all dont want to hear whining about why the person you had no part in voting for won or didnt win.

THANk you i was about to say this QTF
 
If you look on the web and study politics you will be informed the Clintons time did benefit from Reagans and older Bushs policies. I know what im talking about on this.
 
Sadly, if my hypothetical boyfriend and I don't last forever and I somehow, someway, in the future decide that I'm in love with a woman that can't happen. First the ban on gays in the military needs to be repealed.

Well, fortunately for you, the military has the don't ask don't tell policy...So unless you go around telling everyone you're gay, and making a big deal out of it, you can still be in the military:thumbsup2

Regardless of whether you like Obama or McCain, it is very bad that for one party to have this much power; fortunately, it will shift back, but I'm very glad they did not obtain the fillerbuster proof majority. However I hope Obama does the stuff he campaigned that he was going to do...not how his previous voting record implies. And can some people tell me specifically what change is going to happen? Other than universal healthcare and a robinhood mentality. I don't want a website....I want peraphrasing please.
 
I'm glad Obama won. Obama is not friends with terrorists, it's just a stupid rumor. Terrorists make up a tiny part of the countries we are in a war with. Is it right to bring havoc to a whole country when we didn't lose nearly as much as they're losing now? And I'll end this rant with a quote!
"Unless Sarah Palin and John McCain are going to open up a ton of centers for rape victim's babies, they have NO RIGHT to take away abortion from women."
- Chris Crocker
 
It's not that I don't like you, but all of your posts have been to start anarguement and you need to stop Cassidy

also, look into the things you want to post because you are far from the truth on some posts
 
Well, fortunately for you, the military has the don't ask don't tell policy...So unless you go around telling everyone you're gay, and making a big deal out of it, you can still be in the military:thumbsup2

Regardless of whether you like Obama or McCain, it is very bad that for one party to have this much power; fortunately, it will shift back, but I'm very glad they did not obtain the fillerbuster proof majority. However I hope Obama does the stuff he campaigned that he was going to do...not how his previous voting record implies. And can some people tell me specifically what change is going to happen? Other than universal healthcare and a robinhood mentality. I don't want a website....I want peraphrasing please.

Unfortunately, I refuse to live in shame and secrecy of who I am. I will not hide who I am just for the opportunity to serve.
 





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