Childfree (by choice) Disney Lovers!

[Shyvioletisme]

I wouldn't mind paying for the schools if I thought that the schools were actually doing something useful, or if they were actually educating the fair majority of the kids for some type of future. Or if they would stop teaching to the stupid TEST. Bah. Do NOT get me started on standardized testing in my state.

I guess working in the public sector I straddle the fence- I'm mad about paying taxes for failing and substandard schools, but worried about city services getting cut off from those who need it...

A lot of the kids I work with are the ones that "fall through the cracks" when they have no where to go, and you can tell the schools are failing them- some are in second and third grade and can't read on a basic level.

And I have been told on numerous occasions that my salary (and therefore by extension I am a serf- it's all in the tone) is paid by a patron/taxpayer who would gladly opt out if they could because they couldn't access a computer immediately, or get the latest best seller that minute.

I was about to mention teaching to the test too...cause we're in the same state! These poor kids aren't learning anything useful just enough to get them to (hopefully) pass the TAKS test and the kids don't retain any of this information. I'm so glad testing wasn't quite this bad when I was still in school.

 

[Bushmills]

You Ladies should come to Canada – our social safety net is second to none. We pay for EVERYBODY – kids, schools, 3rd generation welfare recipients, day one immigrants, drug addicts, thieves, beggars, and oh yeah – FREE HEALTH CARE FOR ALL! It’s like living in a bar here, but you’re constantly buying the rounds for everyone.

Don’t want to work? No problem, after you exhaust the ample unemployment insurance, just switch to welfare. People are apt to adopt an “I’m going on welfare and let the gov’t pay for me”. What they don’t understand is that it’s we who fund the gov’t.

Okay, I’m off my soapbox now. How was everyone’s weekend?

 

[TKDizneyluver]

Okay peeps, please forgive as I am catching up here......

so just popping up to vent with people who would understand.... Spent the day dealing with a mom who ignored her screaming child in the stroller next to her for a good deal of time, then a plethora of other kids for four hours .... a rehash of three parents saying you're so good with kids why don't you have any of your own, my sister-in-law emails about my mother-in-law complaining that we (hubbie and I) don't have any kids and that she's saying I'm the problem (weight, career-minded, liberal )........ and then to top MY mom calls and says that her good friend has a friend who works in the Philippines and they have a 6 month old baby boy available- do we want him? But it's OUR decision, and it's OK if we don't WANT the baby, because we NEVER may be ready to have kids, and THAT'S OK, but you know they're not getting any younger and it would be nice to have grandkids at some point....

So I'm trying to decide between whether to get on the Wii Fit and box out aggression or bake cookies... or both.

*sigh*

Sorry, just needed to vent in an area where others would get it.

Gracias!

I can sooooo relate to you, as have others here obviously. My advice to you is to hang in there because eventually they will just stop I promise. Especially as Bushy put it "the biological well drying up", gets them to finally shut up!

Good luck and hang in there – the older folks pushing you to have a little pariah or two of your own, only remember the halcyon moments, and the younger ones pushing you, only want to drag you into the 9th level of hell where they reside (the 9th level of hell is reserved for parents and their young offspring – it’s loaded with dirty diapers, screaming children, oddly angled toys you constantly step on, that constant sickening smell of baby powder and warm sick, and endless financial woes of “trying to save for their college fund”).
As a physician, I highly recommend 20cc’s of cocktails, stat.
Cheers,
Bushmills

Bushy I so love this statement from you because it is so frickin' true!!

And I'll take that 20cc's of cocktails and raise you 20 more!

I'm so happy right now! Chris is coming back to MA tomorrow

I bet the two of you had a wonderful reunion!!! Yay!

My big news is that Mr Kat and I giving up alcohol until August, although with going back to the healthy lifestyle we were doing in Jan-Mar. Not sure it will stick, but I am hoping. I still have about 40 more lbs to lose (down ~25, after last month's backslide), and we think that this will help.

Those alcohol calories are a killer! Good luck Kat, you are doing great!

 

[TKDizneyluver]

Good luck with that! I'm with Tiffany, alcohol would be easy to give up, it's the other vice that gives you the munchies that's the hard one to surrender.

Oh I sooo agree!!!

I'm finally consistantly back on my diet/exercise program after a huge backslide. The clothes are getting a little snug but when I lost the 50 lbs last year I packed away all the clothes that were to big and I refuse to go look for them.

Good luck Kris!

Tiffany, have you tried Weight Watchers? I ask only b/c a friend of mine bought me a WW points calculator and it is great to just keep track of your food intake thoughout the day. I LUV it!

I have a friend who lost 100 lbs. doing WW and she has maintained her loss for 2 years now.

Hey everyone my dh and I have been married for almost 6 years. We have never had any desire to have kids as a couple and i never have wanted kids my whole life. We are very content with our life and the freedom we have to travel when and where we want. But we are viewed as being abnormal and selfish. So upon finding this thread i breathed a sigh of relief knowing there are others out there like us lol. I really felt like we were alone. WE get so mush grief from people about y we would go to disney when we don't have kids. People like that don't know how to truly enjoy disney. We have been there 6 times now in the past couple years and it is the truly most romantic place on earth. My dh family doesn't get y we don't want kids. It is very frustrating telling people we just don't. Sometimes i think it would be easier to just say we are unable to than people would back off. So thanks to all of you fellow childless people for your wonderful thread. You have truly spread some pixie dust on my day! Look forward to getting to know you all!

PERDY!!!! Like Madd said, "we're here for you"!

You know, I said people do not ask us about not having kids but, we do get the sarcastic "MUST be nice....." comment once and while when we mention we are going on yet another vacation. Of course, I have to add "It SURE is!"

Ditto!

You're 100% right - Disney is the most romantic place on earth, and its fun and adventure is often wasted on children. Let's see an 8 year old drink the world - then we'll talk.
Cheers,
Bushmills

LOVE IT!!!

BTW...Cough...I guess the money leave will have to go to my ungrateful nieces and nephews...although I will try hard to leave my money to worthy charities.

This is exactly what I was going to do but my sister who is also childfree told me that I should not do that! Mostly because she feels they are ungrateful and do not deserve it, but I do like the idea of leaving whatever I may have left to a charity. Hmmmmm, how about a "support the childfree" charity?

There are many arguments on this subject but for me it boils down to "if you want them pay for them" don't expect me to. and this is from #5 of five children.

I totally agree with you!

Don’t want to work? No problem, after you exhaust the ample unemployment insurance, just switch to welfare. People are apt to adopt an “I’m going on welfare and let the gov’t pay for me”. What they don’t understand is that it’s we who fund the gov’t.

Bushy I see this mentality every day at my job (Social Services). I am amazed at how many people are out there that think "someone else" should pay their way through life!!! ***??!!

 

[TKDizneyluver]

Hi Everyone!

Hope all are doing well and that your week has started off good also! Still been ridiculously busy here, the kids are truanting like crazy so the schools are submitting truancy referrals left and right!! Arrgghh!!! How am I suppose to play during the day on the Dis if I have all of this work??!!! HA!

Madd, do you have any concerts coming up?

I have a friend that went to Minnesota to see the Alice & Rob and she was very disappointed in the show. It apparently was very minimal, they didn't have anywhere near the usual theatrics that each entertainer would normally put into their shows. And for the last encore Rob sang "School's Out" and Alice never came out to sing it with him! Now tell me that is not odd considering it's Alice's tune?!!

No shows planned here at this point, however we do plan to attend Summerfest again this year but just have not decided at this time how many days we will attend.

And vacations.........we have a week in June & a week in October. Now we're thinking of doing a cruise the end of June together and then I may go on vacation with the girls in Oct. We're thinking Fantasy Fest in Key West!!!!

Well I hope everyone is having a good Tuesday!!

 

[KRIS10420]

– FREE HEALTH CARE FOR ALL!

Don’t want to work? No problem, after you exhaust the ample unemployment insurance, just switch to welfare. People are apt to adopt an “I’m going on welfare and let the gov’t pay for me”.

Wait a minute, how do you get free health care when I have to pay a monthly fee???

You gotta love the career welfare moms who keep having kids because it's like a promotion and a raise Once a single parents' child reaches the age of 3 they are required to seek employment, so to get around that they just keep having kids which in return gives them a higher monthly income Although about 8 years ago they changed the rules of collecting welfare to: Employable clients will be limited to a cumulative 24 months (two years) of income assistance out of every 60 months (five years).

I had to work the whole sunny holiday weekend, but at least yesterday was a double time and a half day Now for my days off I get rain

Have a great day everyone!!

 

[Bushmills]

Hi Everyone!

Hope all are doing well and that your week has started off good also! Still been ridiculously busy here, the kids are truanting like crazy so the schools are submitting truancy referrals left and right!! Arrgghh!!! How am I suppose to play during the day on the Dis if I have all of this work??!!! HA!

Madd, do you have any concerts coming up?

I have a friend that went to Minnesota to see the Alice & Rob and she was very disappointed in the show. It apparently was very minimal, they didn't have anywhere near the usual theatrics that each entertainer would normally put into their shows. And for the last encore Rob sang "School's Out" and Alice never came out to sing it with him! Now tell me that is not odd considering it's Alice's tune?!!

No shows planned here at this point, however we do plan to attend Summerfest again this year but just have not decided at this time how many days we will attend.

And vacations.........we have a week in June & a week in October. Now we're thinking of doing a cruise the end of June together and then I may go on vacation with the girls in Oct. We're thinking Fantasy Fest in Key West!!!!

Well I hope everyone is having a good Tuesday!!

Heya Tammy! Sorry the truants are OOFC, just ignore them and hang out here with us - we're more fun.

I was hoping to hear from someone who saw the Alice / Rob show - they just passed through my area last week (I think). I've seen Alice a few times, and it's always a good show (though was better before rehab - his, not mine). Though this last one sounds mediocre from your description. Ah well, next tour.

"Fantasy Fest in Key West"?? Sounds like you're up to some serious debauchery there Lady - can I come?

Hey I just read this morning that the bassist for Slipknot died. Wow, that's a lot of musical deaths this year - not cool.

PS - I see your 40 cc's of cocktail, and raise you a shot of absinthe.
Cheers!

 

[Bushmills]

Wait a minute, how do you get free health care when I have to pay a monthly fee???

You gotta love the career welfare moms who keep having kids because it's like a promotion and a raise Once a single parents' child reaches the age of 3 they are required to seek employment, so to get around that they just keep having kids which in return gives them a higher monthly income Although about 8 years ago they changed the rules of collecting welfare to: Employable clients will be limited to a cumulative 24 months (two years) of income assistance out of every 60 months (five years).

I had to work the whole sunny holiday weekend, but at least yesterday was a double time and a half day Now for my days off I get rain

Have a great day everyone!!

You're right Kris - it's only free for those who "can't afford it". Those of us who can, have to support them (both in tax dollars and co-pay benefits).

I agree 100% with everything you've said - VERY frustating. I'm all for helping those when they need it (we've all been there at one time or another). But when they have such a sense of entitlement, it really irks me.

Sorry you had to work the weekend, but at least you're off now! Woo hoo, spark one up and enjoy your day!

 

[maddhatir]

Hi Everyone!

Hope all are doing well and that your week has started off good also! Still been ridiculously busy here, the kids are truanting like crazy so the schools are submitting truancy referrals left and right!! Arrgghh!!! How am I suppose to play during the day on the Dis if I have all of this work??!!! HA!

So THAT'S where you have been!! I've been wondering about you. Glad to see you back.

Madd, do you have any concerts coming up?

I have a friend that went to Minnesota to see the Alice & Rob and she was very disappointed in the show. It apparently was very minimal, they didn't have anywhere near the usual theatrics that each entertainer would normally put into their shows. And for the last encore Rob sang "School's Out" and Alice never came out to sing it with him! Now tell me that is not odd considering it's Alice's tune?!!

No shows planned here at this point, however we do plan to attend Summerfest again this year but just have not decided at this time how many days we will attend.

It's Summerfest time again for you! No shows heading your way? Or are you just not sure which way to turn right now?

We have Mayhem Fest in July (with Rob and Joey) and The American Carnage Tour with Slayer, Megadeth and Testament in Aug. I read somewhere that Katatonia is supposed to come to town in Sept so I am keeping an eye out for them.

What a disappointment for your friend! Did they play at a smaller venue? I know when we saw Rob a few months back- it was at a small venue and he did not have much of a stage show. But, then again, not sure if I would have noticed b/c I did not take my eyes off of him

And vacations.........we have a week in June & a week in October. Now we're thinking of doing a cruise the end of June together and then I may go on vacation with the girls in Oct. We're thinking Fantasy Fest in Key West!!!!

Ohhhh myyyyyyyyyyy!!! Fantasy Fest!?

Hey I just read this morning that the bassist for Slipknot died. Wow, that's a lot of musical deaths this year - not cool.

Yes. Paul died yesterday morning. There is our 3. Pete, Dio and Paul. Let's stop there- no more deaths please.

 

[book_junkie]

definitely no more.

 

[mskayjay]

Madd I am so with you on this! I loved the times we took our kids but now that they are grown and we go by ourselves it is even cooler! I love watching the joy of all the kids and the families but so enjoy not having to take care of them at this stage of my life and being able to do whatever we want!

Now if only we could get Disney to do that adult only hotel or wing at least! lol

 

[maddhatir]

Madd I am so with you on this! I loved the times we took our kids but now that they are grown and we go by ourselves it is even cooler! I love watching the joy of all the kids and the families but so enjoy not having to take care of them at this stage of my life and being able to do whatever we want!

Now if only we could get Disney to do that adult only hotel or wing at least! lol

Hi Karen!

How about an adult only park? Geez, what am I talking about? We cannot even get Disney to keep the clubs for us let alone anything else!!

 

[zima-cheryl]

Yes. Paul died yesterday morning. There is our 3. Pete, Dio and Paul. Let's stop there- no more deaths please.

I hate to say it, but they do come in threes... so hopefully that is the last one.

Now if only we could get Disney to do that adult only hotel or wing at least! lol

Wouldn't that be fantastic!!!! Could you imagine, even just a smalll section of somthing like the Poly that was adult only?!? I'd be there in a NY Second.

 

[TKDizneyluver]

I had to work the whole sunny holiday weekend, but at least yesterday was a double time and a half day Now for my days off I get rain

Have a great day everyone!!

Enjoy your time off, hopefully mother nature will surprise you and the forecast will change!

Heya Tammy! Sorry the truants are OOFC, just ignore them and hang out here with us - we're more fun.

So THAT'S where you have been!! I've been wondering about you. Glad to see you back.

Thanks Madd!!! Yes you guys are A LOT more fun! Damn kids!

I was hoping to hear from someone who saw the Alice / Rob show - they just passed through my area last week (I think). I've seen Alice a few times, and it's always a good show (though was better before rehab - his, not mine). Though this last one sounds mediocre from your description. Ah well, next tour.

We have Mayhem Fest in July (with Rob and Joey) and The American Carnage Tour with Slayer, Megadeth and Testament in Aug. I read somewhere that Katatonia is supposed to come to town in Sept so I am keeping an eye out for them.

I'm hoping they will add more midwest dates to their tour, often they will add a few date at the end of a tour. I can hope! And I would love to see Mayhem Fest!!!! Although now that I think about it, with Rob doing Mayhem Fest he probably will not be adding dates for the Gruesome Twosome Tour, oh well......

Madd I would love to see Katatonia also.

"Fantasy Fest in Key West"?? Sounds like you're up to some serious debauchery there Lady - can I come?

Ohhhh myyyyyyyyyyy!!! Fantasy Fest!?

You can bet I'm going to party like a rock star!!!! You are all more than welcomed to join in on the fun. I have heard a lot about this wild party, like a lot of naked bodies!!! My friends said something about costumes but who would want to add more clothing in such a hot climate??!! I think I will go the easy route and have my body painted, naked! That should keep me cool, HA!!

Hey I just read this morning that the bassist for Slipknot died. Wow, that's a lot of musical deaths this year - not cool.

Yes. Paul died yesterday morning. There is our 3. Pete, Dio and Paul. Let's stop there- no more deaths please.

So sad! I hope your right Madd, we do not need any more fallen rockers!

PS - I see your 40 cc's of cocktail, and raise you a shot of absinthe.
Cheers!

Mmmmm, Absinthe you say.......... or a nice fine Tequila, specifically an aged anejo like Don Eduardo, Don Julio or Gran Centennario?

It's Summerfest time again for you! No shows heading your way? Or are you just not sure which way to turn right now?

Just not sure which way to turn actually. We have been researching cruises for the end of June which will eat a big chunk of money so we may skip Summerfest. I know, I know unheard of for us but it just may happen!

What a disappointment for your friend! Did they play at a smaller venue? I know when we saw Rob a few months back- it was at a small venue and he did not have much of a stage show. But, then again, not sure if I would have noticed b/c I did not take my eyes off of him

I'm not sure the size of the venue she was at, I will have to ask her. How could NOT keep your eyes off Rob!!!! Yummy!

How about an adult only park? Geez, what am I talking about? We cannot even get Disney to keep the clubs for us let alone anything else!!

Wouldn't that be fantastic!!!! Could you imagine, even just a smalll section of somthing like the Poly that was adult only?!? I'd be there in a NY Second.

I would love to know if Disney has ever considered an adults only hotel? I bet they would get A LOT of takers!!!

It sooooo totally sucks about our clubs!! It still burns me about the Adventurer's Club, that was THE BEST place to hang after a day in the parks!!

 

[Bushmills]

Okay Tammy, I fold - tequilla is NOT my friend (not since I drank waaaay too much of it at tender age 17, before going to see A Clockwork Orange at the old Broadway theatre - no it wasn't its first release).

Though I did have an opportunity to partake in the tequilla bar in Epcot recently. I had the blood orange margarita, which was essentially pure tequilla. Had to drink it quick to kill the taste

Maddi - looks like we're going to Key West! Anyone else want on?

 

[mskayjay]

Enjoy your time off, hopefully mother nature will surprise you and the forecast will change!





Thanks Madd!!! Yes you guys are A LOT more fun! Damn kids!





I'm hoping they will add more midwest dates to their tour, often they will add a few date at the end of a tour. I can hope! And I would love to see Mayhem Fest!!!! Although now that I think about it, with Rob doing Mayhem Fest he probably will not be adding dates for the Gruesome Twosome Tour, oh well......

Madd I would love to see Katatonia also.





You can bet I'm going to party like a rock star!!!! You are all more than welcomed to join in on the fun. I have heard a lot about this wild party, like a lot of naked bodies!!! My friends said something about costumes but who would want to add more clothing in such a hot climate??!! I think I will go the easy route and have my body painted, naked! That should keep me cool, HA!!





So sad! I hope your right Madd, we do not need any more fallen rockers!



Mmmmm, Absinthe you say.......... or a nice fine Tequila, specifically an aged anejo like Don Eduardo, Don Julio or Gran Centennario?



Just not sure which way to turn actually. We have been researching cruises for the end of June which will eat a big chunk of money so we may skip Summerfest. I know, I know unheard of for us but it just may happen!



I'm not sure the size of the venue she was at, I will have to ask her. How could NOT keep your eyes off Rob!!!! Yummy!





I would love to know if Disney has ever considered an adults only hotel? I bet they would get A LOT of takers!!!

It sooooo totally sucks about our clubs!! It still burns me about the Adventurer's Club, that was THE BEST place to hang after a day in the parks!!

I don't know if Disney has ever considered it but I do know that it is a SUPER touchy subject on the DisBoards! lol Right Madd?????? I started a thread a long time ago about it and wow......

 

[maddhatir]

I don't know if Disney has ever considered it but I do know that it is a SUPER touchy subject on the DisBoards! lol Right Madd?????? I started a thread a long time ago about it and wow......

GOD forbid we adults w/o kids even suggest something for ourselves. It seems like they are taking more and more away from us. These damn character meals are everywhere and I, for one, am SICK of it! They charge an arm and a leg, serve CRAP food but everyone is fine with it b/c the CHARACTERS are there! oooooooo! How long before they add characters to the new restaurants in Italy and Mexico? Oh, it will happen!

You know, I used to enjoy The Tusker House when it was a CS restaurant. It had a great veggie sandwich. Now, if I eat at that park at all- I have such limited options and one of my options will NOT be that %$#@ they call pizza at Pizzafari that all the kiddies love {{{PUKE}}}

I was looking forward to doing the Picnic at the AK- and they took that away too! I guess (SOME) children and parents are not into a relaxing "picnic in the park" LIKE *I* WOULD BE!

I like to sit down for a nice meal and have some good food, but to get pretty decent TS food now, we have to opt for (2) credit TS restaurants which we are doing this trip.

Oh my, my- I am venting! Karen look what you started

 

[HockeyKat]

Madd, add in free dining and it just goes downhill from there. Now THAT's a touchy subject on the DIS!

I would love an adults only section but the backlash would be legendary. God forbid you take something away from the precious children! Not every parent is like that, thank God, but you know the ones I am talking about.

 

[maddhatir]

Madd, add in free dining and it just goes downhill from there. Now THAT's a touchy subject on the DIS!

I would love an adults only section but the backlash would be legendary. God forbid you take something away from the precious children! Not every parent is like that, thank God, but you know the ones I am talking about.

OMG Kat! I just came back here to edit my post about the AK Picnic to "SOME" parents! I know they cannot be lumped in all together but I know exactly what you are talking about.

 

[mskayjay]

"Oh my, my- I am venting! Karen look what you started "

I do seem to have that effect on you huh? lol

I just want a quiet wing to come back to and a pool that is not pee-peed to death or overchlorinated because of all the pee-pee. I want to sleep in the morning and not hear wee ones all excited to see Mickey 'cause I'm going to see him later in the day, stay out as late as I want, and I am not going to wake the wee ones up when I get in at 2AM so why do they get to wake me at 6AM!

I honest to goodness love love love kids and really want them to enjoy themselves, but I want to enjoy too! There is room for all of us at Dis if they would just be a bit more creative in how they do it.

We are so on the fence right now about whether we will be going again this year or going to someplace a bit more adult......say the Islands or Key West but I do so love Disney!