Childfree (by choice) Disney Lovers!

[Bushmills]

OK. Are you really a Doc??! Or is this a fib too just like the "procreation law" they passed just for you?

Well, not a medical doctor no, but I do have my doctorate, and that's gotta count for something in this crazy, mixed up world of ours.

 

[Bushmills]

Hey everyone my dh and I have been married for almost 6 years. We have never had any desire to have kids as a couple and i never have wanted kids my whole life. We are very content with our life and the freedom we have to travel when and where we want. But we are viewed as being abnormal and selfish. So upon finding this thread i breathed a sigh of relief knowing there are others out there like us lol. I really felt like we were alone. WE get so mush grief from people about y we would go to disney when we don't have kids. People like that don't know how to truly enjoy disney. We have been there 6 times now in the past couple years and it is the truly most romantic place on earth. My dh family doesn't get y we don't want kids. It is very frustrating telling people we just don't. Sometimes i think it would be easier to just say we are unable to than people would back off. So thanks to all of you fellow childless people for your wonderful thread. You have truly spread some pixie dust on my day! Look forward to getting to know you all!

Hello perdy, pleasure to meet you, and yes, you're in good company here (albeit somewhat eccentric ).

You're 100% right - Disney is the most romantic place on earth, and its fun and adventure is often wasted on children. Let's see an 8 year old drink the wold - then we'll talk. Welcome to the thread, just watch out for Maddi, she has happy hands.
Cheers,
Bushmills

 

[maddhatir]

You're 100% right - Disney is the most romantic place on earth, and its fun and adventure is often wasted on children. Let's see an 8 year old drink the wold - then we'll talk.

Thank goodness the WS was not around when Drew Barrymore was a child- you may have had to eat your words Don't ask me why I thought of her Oh that's right. She is the only 8 year old I know who drank

Welcome to the thread, just watch out for Maddi, she has happy hands.
Cheers,
Bushmills

Heyyyyyy!! Why I outta.......
Heres some happy hands for ya!

 

[book_junkie]

Excellent suggestion Cheryl! Me Likee cookies.

I can share my recipe for chocolate chip butterscotch cookies... I bake them with splenda but then I double up the chips so that probably negates any benefits of cutting the actual sugar....

I actually did neither- my friend sent me a copy of Bebe's Kids, so I watched that instead....

 

[perdy1234]

thanks for the group hug and the welcome it is awesome to have found some people with the same sane reasoning as us I too find it hilarious when the " must be nice comment is made" its like everyone has that choice and I am very happy with mine. I to love my money, freedom, vacations, and career too much to give it up. Some people say oh life begins when you have kids ok whatever i will just take there word for it while they slave away at there jobs so there kid can play little league. I will just enjoy another drink by the pool with my feet up watching the frustrated parents say to there kids for the hundreth time " do you realize what this vacation is costing your father" Ah the freedom. My dogs and cats are a handful enough most days. Its crazy why people think you just have to have kids there is no ifs ands or buts you just have too. I don't get it but than they don't get us so I guess we will leave it at that! We just returned from wdw and are busily planning our new years at wdw follwed by the panama canal cruise and a weekend in disneyland. I would be a millionaire if i had a buck for everytime someone said your going again, why don't you have kids than you can stay home ya ok I will just reply yes we are going again and yes it is nice i will send ya a post card! ah it feels so nice to share with like minded people. We are from a very small town so not having kids seems to be a big deal to the whole town. Oh well we will just book another vacation so they can continue to whine!

 

[Bushmills]

Thank goodness the WS was not around when Drew Barrymore was a child- you may have had to eat your words Don't ask me why I thought of her Oh that's right. She is the only 8 year old I know who drank




Heyyyyyy!! Why I outta.......
Heres some happy hands for ya!

Ooops, forgot to mention, she has a heck of a temper too!

 

[Bushmills]

I can share my recipe for chocolate chip butterscotch cookies... I bake them with splenda but then I double up the chips so that probably negates any benefits of cutting the actual sugar....

I actually did neither- my friend sent me a copy of Bebe's Kids, so I watched that instead....

"Chocolate chip butterscotch cookies"??? You Ma'am, are a Goddess of snack treats.

 

[maddhatir]

Kris posted this on Facebook. I hope she does not mind me sharing it with some of you

Ann Landers' famous "The Childless Couple"

There is nothing sadder than a childless couple. It breaks my heart to see them relaxing around swimming pools in Florida, sitting all suntanned and miserable on the decks of their boats -- trotting off to Europe like lonesome fools. It's an empty life. Nothing but money to spend, more time to enjoy and a whole lot less to worry about.

The poor childless couple are so wrapped up in themselves, you have to feel sorry for them. They don't fight over the child's discipline, don't blame each other for the child's most obnoxious characteristics, and they miss all the fun of doing without for the child's sake. They just go along, doing whatever they want, buying what they want and liking each other. It's a pretty pathetic picture.

Everyone should have children. No one should be allowed to escape the wonderful experience that accompanies each stage in the development of the young -- the happy memories of sleepless nights, coughing spells, tantrums, diaper rash, debts, "dipso" baby sitters, saturated mattresses, emergencies and never-ending crises.

How dismal is the peaceful home without the constant childish problems that make a well-rounded life and an early breakdown; the tender, thoughtful discussions when the report card reveals the progeny to be one step below a moron; the end-of-the-day reunions with all the joyful happenings recited like well-placed blows to the temples.

Children are worth it. Every moment of anxiety, every sacrifice, every complete collapse pays off as a fine, sturdy adolescent is reached. The feeling of reward the first time you took the boy hunting -- he didn't mean to shoot you, the lad was excited. Remember how he cried? How sorry he was? And how much better you felt after the blood transfusion? These are the times a man with a growing son treasures -- memories that are captured forever in the heart and the limp.

Think back to the night of romantic adventure when your budding daughter eloped with the village idiot. What childless couple ever shared in the stark realism of that drama? Aren't you a better man for having lived richly, fully, acquiring that tic in your left eye? Could a woman without children touch the strength and heroism of your wife as she tried to fling herself out of the bedroom window?

The childless couple live in a vacuum. They fill their lonely days with golf, vacation trips, dinner dates, civic affairs, tranquility, leisure and entertainment. There is a terrifying emptiness without children, but the childless couple are too comfortable to know it.

You just have to look at them to see what the years have done: He looks boyish, unlined and rested; she's slim, well-groomed and youthful. It isn't natural. If they had had kids, they'd look like the rest of us -- worn out, wrinkled and exhausted.

 

[perdy1234]

Thats awesome story. I will def be sharing it with others!

 

[KRIS10420]

No prob Madd, I was going to post it here too but ran out of time before work. I got it from this very fitting website
http://www.happilychildfree.com/

 

[zima-cheryl]

Have fun at the zoo! How many hours will it take you to get to NY? DH has probably had enough traveling to last him a lifetime Glad he is "home" though! I am sure you both will be glad to get settled in the new place and call it home!

Takes about 3 hours on the bus to get to the zoo from here. It isn't bad. They have a movie or you can sleep. The zoo was fantastic! For anyone in the NY/New England area I would highly recomend the Bronx Zoo for a visit! Eventually I'll get my pix up from the trip.

Hey everyone my dh and I have been married for almost 6 years. We have never had any desire to have kids as a couple and i never have wanted kids my whole life. We are very content with our life and the freedom we have to travel when and where we want. But we are viewed as being abnormal and selfish. So upon finding this thread i breathed a sigh of relief knowing there are others out there like us lol. I really felt like we were alone. WE get so mush grief from people about y we would go to disney when we don't have kids. People like that don't know how to truly enjoy disney. We have been there 6 times now in the past couple years and it is the truly most romantic place on earth. My dh family doesn't get y we don't want kids. It is very frustrating telling people we just don't. Sometimes i think it would be easier to just say we are unable to than people would back off. So thanks to all of you fellow childless people for your wonderful thread. You have truly spread some pixie dust on my day! Look forward to getting to know you all!

You will find we are eclectic, but mostly harmless to ourselves & others.

Well, not a medical doctor no, but I do have my doctorate, and that's gotta count for something in this crazy, mixed up world of ours.

Yup - that & $3 will get you a coffee at Starbucks!

Thank goodness the WS was not around when Drew Barrymore was a child- you may have had to eat your words Don't ask me why I thought of her Oh that's right. She is the only 8 year old I know who drank

 

[Vivianne]

Well, this is my little rant. Maybe it doesn't belong here but here it goes.

I like kids I really do. But, I don't think childfree taxpayers are appreciated.We get the finger by their children in this town.

I will never have children and don't really care who lives in this area in the future. GOD BLESS YOU!

Year after year I pay high property taxes.

Where I come from taxes paid for education are more than half of our town budget. Okay...I wasn't raised in this town...not even this State and I'm made to feel like I owe someone's child...I don't know why...

I'd like to find a place to live where my taxes pay for the services I use. Please tell me where...I may consider moving...Bet they'd be alot lower.

I'd love to hear an argument on why I owe the same amount of this tax burden.

BTW...Cough...I guess the money leave will have to go to my ungrateful nieces and nephews...although I will try hard to leave my money to worthy charities.

 

[HockeyKat]

Vivianne, I couldn't agree more!!!!

I have always thought that it was unfair that as a childless couple, we pay more taxes than the couple with two children next door, and we take up less resources! I have no problem with people deciding to have children, but why do they get to *deduct* money for them?

Yes, I realize that it costs money to have children, but it is your choice to do so.

 

[maddhatir]

I'd love to hear an argument on why I owe the same amount of this tax burden.

NO argument from me! A lot of people will say- but the $$ is worth it since it is for education. I say let the parents pay for their own child's education. DH and I pay $6800.00 A YEAR in property taxes- I would say 1/2 to 3/4 of that goes towards our schools!

I propose all parents pay 75% of school taxes and maybe we can pick up the additional 25%. We CF people will never get out of paying those taxes so this would be fair compromise.

 

[Vivianne]

Vivianne, I couldn't agree more!!!!

I have always thought that it was unfair that as a childless couple, we pay more taxes than the couple with two children next door, and we take up less resources! I have no problem with people deciding to have children, but why do they get to *deduct* money for them?

Yes, I realize that it costs money to have children, but it is your choice to do so.

Thanks for your response...

I guess I'm just irked at how we're expected to happily share in this burden. Really, it's a choice to have children. There are many arguments on this subject but for me it boils down to "if you want them pay for them" don't expect me to. and this is from #5 of five children.

I'm a baby boomer and my parents worked HARD to provide for their children.

 

[maddhatir]

Vivianne, I couldn't agree more!!!!

I have always thought that it was unfair that as a childless couple, we pay more taxes than the couple with two children next door, and we take up less resources! I have no problem with people deciding to have children, but why do they get to *deduct* money for them?

Yes, I realize that it costs money to have children, but it is your choice to do so.

And, people with children can get back a lot more money than we can on their tax return.

Thanks for your response...

I guess I'm just irked at how we're expected to happily share in this burden. Really, it's a choice to have children. There are many arguments on this subject but for me it boils down to "if you want them pay for them" don't expect me to. and this is from #5 of five children.

I'm a baby boomer and my parents worked HARD to provide for their children.

Oh, I am with you on being irked about a lot of things!

 

[Vivianne]

One last thing...

When parents talk about getting a refund on their taxes..

Don't go to Disney with the money..


Pay for your children's clothing, computers, shoes for the school year!

That's what the money is for!

THANK YOU FOR GETTING THIS OFF MY CHEST!

Ahhhh....that felt good...

 

[HockeyKat]

Hehe, Vivianne, I am irked about the exact same things often! I usually get some lame line about paying for our future or some such BS if I complain out loud, too.

I have no problem "paying for our future", just paying more for using less than someone who pays less for using more. They have a choice in having the children and I don't have a choice in paying more. Grr.

 

[Vivianne]

Hehe, Vivianne, I am irked about the exact same things often! I usually get some lame line about paying for our future or some such BS if I complain out loud, too.

I have no problem "paying for our future", just paying more for using less than someone who pays less for using more. They have a choice in having the children and I don't have a choice in paying more. Grr.

Well...maybe I'm fooling myself and I'm just toast...(age/future wise)...
Really, the next generation is going to be paying much more than twice what we are..time will tell. Then you'll see the complaints of childfree couples/singles

I don't rejoice in knowing this but it's a reality they're going to face. I guess we have it good.

I think the only thing parents must do is step up to the plate and actively participate in educating their own children by volunteering or otherwise. I cant' see the cost of educating children skyrocket and it be economically feasible for towns to continue to support it by taxation.

 

[book_junkie]

I wouldn't mind paying for the schools if I thought that the schools were actually doing something useful, or if they were actually educating the fair majority of the kids for some type of future. Or if they would stop teaching to the stupid TEST. Bah. Do NOT get me started on standardized testing in my state.

I guess working in the public sector I straddle the fence- I'm mad about paying taxes for failing and substandard schools, but worried about city services getting cut off from those who need it...

A lot of the kids I work with are the ones that "fall through the cracks" when they have no where to go, and you can tell the schools are failing them- some are in second and third grade and can't read on a basic level.

And I have been told on numerous occasions that my salary (and therefore by extension I am a serf- it's all in the tone) is paid by a patron/taxpayer who would gladly opt out if they could because they couldn't access a computer immediately, or get the latest best seller that minute.