CDC Notifies States, Large Cities To Prepare For Vaccine Distribution As Soon As Late October

[Jonfw2]

I hadn't thought to even consider this but you do make at least some sense here. Done by population some of these states had to have gotten more in vaccines than the entire population of other states You would hope they would be able to vaccinate more people!

I make some sense? I just stated a fact.

 

[Heigh-Ho]

I make some sense? I just stated a fact.

You answered my question I had and I liked your response which was my way of thanking you for answering me

Someone else gave their opinion from your answer (well not really your answer just what they thought about looking at that information) and I was thinking they were making at least some sense in their opinion on how they choose to look at it. That's really all. Like I said I haven't been keeping up so much on that part. I'm really sorry I wasn't trying to cause offense here

 

[TLSnell1981]

Florida is functioning while other large populations have crawled into a hole...done very poorly overall. Bravo Florida!

 

[jlwhitney]

Florida is functioning while other large populations have crawled into a hole...done very poorly overall. Bravo Florida!

I agree! Florida is doing very well.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

Florida is functioning while other large populations have crawled into a hole...done very poorly overall. Bravo Florida!

Yes CA would be one of them. More people vaccinated than FL but not done as many as they could given the number of doses they got. I was disappointed to learn that the national average was only 39% which is crazy low IMO). FL is better than the national average but other states are better than FL.

Why isn't CA able to get more of their doses out? Someone mentioned on another thread they only had 55,000 doses for the 65+ for LA when they opened it up to that group, it'll be scooped up so quickly if they only have that amount.

 

[TLSnell1981]

Yes CA would be one of them. More people vaccinated than FL but not done as many as they could given the number of doses they got. I was disappointed to learn that the national average was only 39%. FL is better than the national average but other states are better than FL.

Why isn't CA able to get more of their doses out? Someone mentioned on another thread they only had 55,000 doses for the 65+ for LA when they opened it up to that group, it'll be scooped up so quickly if they only have that amount.

California has many many problems...not just their lack of ability in distributing vaccinations or testing.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

California has many many problems...not just their lack of ability in distributing vaccinations or testing.

Well sure but we were just talking about number of people vaccinated weren't we?

 

[Jonfw2]

Today is an ignominious anniversary:

one year ago today, the first Covid case was declared in the US.

 

[dvcgirl67]

Today is an ignominious anniversary:

one year ago today, the first Covid case was declared in the US.

It's been a long, long year. We'll be hearing a lot about the Covid response today from the federal government. That's the only thing on the docket for today. Lots of executive orders including exercising the Defense Production Act. Also getting 100 vaccination centers up and running within a month.

I sincerely hope they can get the vaccine rollout banging on all cylinders. It's not going to be easy. What is working well in West Virginia probably won't help New York. It's like Jonfw2 said, it's not things or actions that nobody has thought up to date, it's a bunch of things that we should have doing all along and haven't.

Also, Dr. Fauci is going to be front and center again starting today. He's certainly been in the media doing what he could to get the word out. But today at 4am he was the U.S. representative for a WHO meeting, which we've rejoined. I'm not sure we ever really left....we've stopped going in the direction of leaving I think. And...he'll be available at the Daily White House Press Conference today at 5pm for questions.

 

[mrs. magoo]

I sincerely hope they can get the vaccine rollout banging on all cylinders. It's not going to be easy. What is working well in West Virginia probably won't help New York. It's like Jonfw2 said, it's not things or actions that nobody has thought up to date, it's a bunch of things that we should have doing all along and haven't.

I agree with this what works for one state may not work for another so there does need to be some leeway to allow states to figure out what they need to do. My complaint is that states have known since October that they needed to come up with a plan and I feel like things have just been thrown together. I am not sure if they did not think things were actually going to happen this fast or what. I don't have any answers on how best things should be done I am not a numbers person but I know that having things be like the wild wild west is not going well either. I am hopeful that things will get better soon.

 

[TLSnell1981]

California has many many problems...not just their lack of ability in distributing vaccinations or testing.

I’m referring to handling the virus not just the vaccine. It’s not really that off topic IMO

 

[dvcgirl67]

I agree with this what works for one state may not work for another so there does need to be some leeway to allow states to figure out what they need to do. My complaint is that states have known since October that they needed to come up with a plan and I feel like things have just been thrown together. I am not sure if they did not think things were actually going to happen this fast or what. I don't have any answers on how best things should be done I am not a numbers person but I know that having things be like the wild wild west is not going well either. I am hopeful that things will get better soon.

I totally agree. What we've needed this whole time is a federal government that is acting as the general contractor....to oversee the sub-contractors (states). It's the general contractor's job to make sure the subs all have the material they need...etc, at the job site, and then the sub-contractors can do the work. It's also the general contractor who lays down the laws as to how the job site should be maintained....safety rules, etc. For one, just having people at the federal level set the example of wearing masks at that level would have been helpful. I think that ship has sailed though....a mask mandate isn't going to change anything. People who aren't wearing masks aren't going to do so now. But I'm hoping that doing a better job with vaccine supply distribution will help on some level.

 

[KBoopaloo]

Of population vaccinated.

Florida is doing really well but is actually about 10th in the country for percentage of population given at least one shot (5.2%) - a lot of smaller states like WV, ND, SD, CT, NM are at the top of the list with Alaska at the top (7.8% of their population has received at least one shot). DC is also high on the list. Alaska and DC also have the highest percentage of population having had both shots - both are at 1.5%. Florida is at 0.5% for two shots.

My understanding is that WV has been so successful because it opted to distribute via local independent pharmacies rather than opting in to the national contract with CVS and Walgreens. The local pharmacies here in Massachusetts have been making some noise about not letting ou entire supply be distributed via the big chains based on WV’s success.

For total shots given, the top states are California then Texas then Florida then New York which is what you’d expect. All of them are between 1 and 1.5 million doses given and it falls off pretty precipitously after that with Michigan and Pennsylvania coming in at around half a million doses.

The NYT has a pretty easy to navigate tracker which updates daily.

 

[Jonfw2]

Florida is doing really well but is actually about 10th in the country for percentage of population given at least one shot (5.2%) - a lot of smaller states like WV, ND, SD, CT, NM are at the top of the list with Alaska at the top (7.8% of their population has received at least one shot). DC is also high on the list. Alaska and DC also have the highest percentage of population having had both shots - both are at 1.5%. Florida is at 0.5% for two shots.

My understanding is that WV has been so successful because it opted to distribute via local independent pharmacies rather than opting in to the national contract with CVS and Walgreens. The local pharmacies here in Massachusetts have been making some noise about not letting ou entire supply be distributed via the big chains based on WV’s success.

For total shots given, the top states are California then Texas then Florida then New York which is what you’d expect. All of them are between 1 and 1.5 million doses given and it falls off pretty precipitously after that with Michigan and Pennsylvania coming in at around half a million doses.

The NYT has a pretty easy to navigate tracker which updates daily.

Thanks for the clarification- the NY Times tracker just uses color coding for the states- darker green means higher %. Florida LOOKED the darkest to me, but that could just be because it was the biggest dark green one!

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

I’m referring to handling the virus not just the vaccine. It’s not really that off topic IMO

Understood, but it was in response to me asking in a general way why CA hasn't been able to get more percentage of their population vaccinated based on the number of doses they've received which was the topic of conversation. Handling of the virus is independent of that for many states who have either let it run rampant and still be able to vaccinate more efficiently or have had more restrictions and been able to vaccinate more efficiently. I can understand where you're coming from though.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

Florida is doing really well but is actually about 10th in the country for percentage of population given at least one shot (5.2%) - a lot of smaller states like WV, ND, SD, CT, NM are at the top of the list with Alaska at the top (7.8% of their population has received at least one shot). DC is also high on the list. Alaska and DC also have the highest percentage of population having had both shots - both are at 1.5%. Florida is at 0.5% for two shots.

My understanding is that WV has been so successful because it opted to distribute via local independent pharmacies rather than opting in to the national contract with CVS and Walgreens. The local pharmacies here in Massachusetts have been making some noise about not letting ou entire supply be distributed via the big chains based on WV’s success.

For total shots given, the top states are California then Texas then Florida then New York which is what you’d expect. All of them are between 1 and 1.5 million doses given and it falls off pretty precipitously after that with Michigan and Pennsylvania coming in at around half a million doses.

The NYT has a pretty easy to navigate tracker which updates daily.

I mentioned this on another thread. People may be wanting to actually check a state's vaccine website. My state's information is coming from their own immunization website and is not necessarily the same as CDC tracker and the likes. Presently my state's immunization website says 3.8% of the population is vaccinated (news article has 3.6%) and 60% of the doses administered to the vaccination sites have been used. The figures used for Doses Distributed isn't the figure my state uses for calculation. Their Doses Distributed is actually doses that have made their way to one of the 278 sites presently available. It's my understanding that Doses Distributed in this context for news articles may be more off of the amount a state is supposed to have or is getting from the Federal government not necessarily all the ones they have in hand or the ones they've disbursed out. I found out on another thread an issue with NY for example. NY's numbers because of how NY is inputting in data only includes non-LTC residents, but the Doses Distributed number reflects all of it. So it makes NY look worse at distributing than they really are doing.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

I totally agree. What we've needed this whole time is a federal government that is acting as the general contractor....to oversee the sub-contractors (states). It's the general contractor's job to make sure the subs all have the material they need...etc, at the job site, and then the sub-contractors can do the work.

I know you and I have disagreed on national approach stuff but this is something I've always agreed with. Our resources for testing, for PPE, for financial aid should have always been at the Federal level and done in a consistent, fair method (none of this bidding war stuff, none of this area has too little tests and can't accurately get case numbers). The U.S. is set up so that the Federal government has only so much control in the states. Your analogy is actually a really good one in a sense that there should have been some overseeing there on the states. I still firmly believe the states need to be able to have more control in other ways but if all states had more tests, more ppe, more aid the decisions one state made in comparison to another may have made it much more clear what was going on. Too many things blurred unfortunately. I can only hope we take the opportunity to study and learn all that we can for this. Our future infectious disease response hinges on it (and it needs to be backed by science NOT by political feelings).

 

[charmed59]

Though Florida is doing well in some areas of the state, other areas are left scrambling. Our Governor came to our mostly senior area for a press conference in front of a tent area that promised to give 1000 vaccines a day to those 65 and over for the next 90 days. Within a week the tents were gone and they were out of vaccines.

At this point our county whose average age is over 65 has no vaccines available. Folks are traveling to other parts of the state to try and get vaccines. It is really stressing out those that really need it.

I understand Florida is now requiring Florida residency to get vaccines here, to try and build up herd immunity in Florida.

 

[LuvOrlando]

SInce they aren't sharing much data on the populations infected best guess is that tight quarters is a big factor so we have the elderly, who don't move around much due to health limits and who can be sought out and vaccinated but also there might be high infection rates in the homeless communities, who are far more mobile due to circumstance. These marginalized populations are largely served by volunteers with neither training nor resources and the served end up commingling in shelters where the primary concern is shelter from the elements. Here resources (human and supply dollars) for cleaning fomites, bedding and social distancing might be necessary sacrifices in order to provide food and warmth and without support we are forcing the shelters into an impossible choice, do they buy lysol or give a person a bed? Truly, the best way to protect us all is to protect the most vulnerable because there will be a price to be paid if it goes ignored, we will either pay in housing or care or we will suffer by not being able to suffocate this disease and need to name our poison.

This same issue is why public schools exist and public housing, it's just that the population has grown so more demand exists. I think if we look at which states are dealing with upticks we will probably see a pattern and the best thing we can do for humanity is to make donations to these facilities of all kinds until the states figure out how to tackle the issues in play & get vaccinations to the group, especially now that housing is so threatened with the high job loss rate.

I don't believe the cause of the undercurrent of infection is at all mysterious.

 

[DLgal]

Understood, but it was in response to me asking in a general way why CA hasn't been able to get more percentage of their population vaccinated based on the number of doses they've received which was the topic of conversation. Handling of the virus is independent of that for many states who have either let it run rampant and still be able to vaccinate more efficiently or have had more restrictions and been able to vaccinate more efficiently. I can understand where you're coming from though.

The simple answer is the state of CA is hoarding the vaccine under the guise of "equitable distribution."

Our county has to beg the state every week to give them more vaccine doses. They have numerous medical systems ready to administer vaccine but they can't get their hands on enough supply to set up appointments. It's all a huge cluster.