CDC Notifies States, Large Cities To Prepare For Vaccine Distribution As Soon As Late October

[Jonfw2]

According to the study website, they have not changed their stance. I decided to call our site anyway to get information. They are in the middle of unblinding now. Because I called and expressed interest, they will move our files up. We should hear back within two weeks. We will remain the study and continue to go to appointments and fill in our study diary.

That's great! But to be clear, their previous statement was that they were only going to unblind people as their group became available (like if you are 75, you'd get unblinded whenever 75 year olds in your state were eligible to get vaxxed).

 

[DopeyDame]

It will be interesting to see how the status of vaccine availability change at the end of this week, early next week. A lot of these first days of the new administration will be spent just getting an accurate understanding of what is or isn't available. We still don't know about the "stockpile" Azar mentioned and then said didn't exist and then Pfizer said did exist. Maybe there are millions of doses waiting to be released. Maybe there is absolutely nothing in reserve and the forward plans are a lot worse than we know now. Who the heck knows.

Everyone should be prepared for shifts in plans over the next few weeks, but hopefully with more reliable info states and counties will be able to plan more accurately and get what they do have distributed more efficiently.
Fingers crossed!

 

[bethbuchall]

That's great! But to be clear, their previous statement was that they were only going to unblind people as their group became available (like if you are 75, you'd get unblinded whenever 75 year olds in your state were eligible to get vaxxed).

They changed that stance last month and were speeding things up. They are going to have everyone transitioned by March 1st. My 6 month appointment is March 4, so I was going to wait until then. I decided to check now, though.

 

[Jonfw2]

They changed that stance last month and were speeding things up. They are going to have everyone transitioned by March 1st. My 6 month appointment is March 4, so I was going to wait until then. I decided to check now, though.

Yes- that's what I meant.

 

[RamblingMad]

Got both of my parents scheduled for theirs next month.

 

[dvcgirl67]

I saw it best put over the weekend: there is nothing surprising or amazing about his plan. Everything in it is common sense. To put it another way, everything we should have been doing all along.

This....one gazillion times.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

The problem is the crisis it will create within states, the temptation to defund other core services like schools and public safety for the sake of getting residents vaccinated sooner. Not to mention what bidding wars would do to the total/absolute cost of those vaccinations. Look at what happened with PPE - bidding wars meant some states were paying twice or more the usual price for supplies and no one could count on receiving anything because orders were being cancelled when higher bids came in. States can't plan for vaccine distribution if today they believe they've got a deal for 100K doses but find out tomorrow that another state offered a higher price so those doses just aren't coming.

Agreed.

And I want to be clear I wasn't bringing up CA to get into a discussion on tax comparisons and low and high taxes. I brought it up because of bargaining power. Any state, no matter who they are, who will be operating on a windfall will stand to have a higher bargaining power should the states be able to purchase from a vaccine manufacturer. And states who have more windfalls will have a higher bargaining power than states with less. States with deficits don't stand much chance.

And exactly about funding. Siphoning away funds is what some places do best. It's what destroyed my state's economic health under the prior governor when he stripped education and road funding. And everyone wants their citizens to be protected what will they do to offset the costs or to improve their bargaining power (charge their citizens for it to get the money back?, take money away from vital services?, etc). Our economy has been said to be improving quicker than they thought though it's sliding back some now. The figures I have are from November and then at least it was expected to be a 152 million dollar deficit which was better than the $1.4 billion dollar deficit they were initially warning about in April.

Who do you think stands a better chance at getting the vaccine? A state with that deficit or a state (any state) with a $26 billion dollar windfall?

 

[bethbuchall]

Got both of my parents scheduled for theirs next month.

I wish my parents would let me schedule theirs. My mother is becoming frustrated by the on-line system and isn’t checking nearly as frequently as I would. But they’re grown, independent adults who want to do this themselves.

 

[aggiedog]

To who asked, yes, it sounds like this town is a "subHub."

My parents tried for hours. They finally got a message to leave their name and number and they would be contacted within 24 hours. No return call yet. Dh said 25,000 people called, as per the county official on the radio this am. Surely there is a better way to do this.

And they actually got a call back this afternoon. They're scheduled for tomorrow. I'm a bit shocked but very happy for them.

 

[bobbiwoz]

And they actually got a call back this afternoon. They're scheduled for tomorrow. I'm a bit shocked but very happy for them.

Great news!

 

[Jonfw2]

Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine found to be effective against Covid variant discovered in UK
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[aggiedog]

And they actually got a call back this afternoon. They're scheduled for tomorrow. I'm a bit shocked but very happy for them.

Follow up #2, my dh called to get on the list also, though he is nowhere near priority at 53 and healthy. He just wanted to be on their list for whenever they started that group. They called him and offered him a 6:00am slot tomorrow. When he said he didn't meet the requirements, they told him that was ok because they couldn't find anyone to take that early appointment.

So, good he's getting it, but I can't help but think that a more organized signup system, like an online site or app where everyone had access to appointment times, would have made it easier to fill spots instead of schedulers just calling people one by one.

It's like we're reinventing the wheel...over and over again.

 

[Jonfw2]

My mom got a vax appointment for the day her age group opens in Ohio. She just kept refreshing until one came up, then booked it immediately.

 

[TLSnell1981]

It will be interesting to see how the status of vaccine availability change at the end of this week, early next week. A lot of these first days of the new administration will be spent just getting an accurate understanding of what is or isn't available. We still don't know about the "stockpile" Azar mentioned and then said didn't exist and then Pfizer said did exist. Maybe there are millions of doses waiting to be released. Maybe there is absolutely nothing in reserve and the forward plans are a lot worse than we know now. Who the heck knows.

Everyone should be prepared for shifts in plans over the next few weeks, but hopefully with more reliable info states and counties will be able to plan more accurately and get what they do have distributed more efficiently.
Fingers crossed!

Some states have done well with testing and vaccines. Others have been atrocious. I'm quite impressed with a few...

 

[Jonfw2]

Some states have done well with testing and vaccines. Others have been atrocious. I'm quite impressed with a few...

Florida has the highest percentage in the country I think.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

Florida has the highest percentage in the country I think.

Depends on what metric you're looking at. From their numbers as of 12am today they've only administered about 48% of the vaccines they've distributed. The national average is 39%.

Obviously these things change on a dime.

 

[Heigh-Ho]

Florida has the highest percentage in the country I think.

Highest for what? I haven't been keeping up on this part of the vaccine thing.

 

[Jonfw2]

Highest for what? I haven't been keeping up on this part of the vaccine thing.

Of population vaccinated.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

Of population vaccinated.

CA has vaccinated more people in total. Texas has as well over FL. But that's not really the numbers that make the big picture. Vaccines were distributed by populations of each state you can't fault states for not having the same population as some of these big states and thus those big states having more vaccine to work with.

If you want to know how well on a large scale how so and so state is doing it's what are they doing with the vaccines they've been given and how many people have been vaccinated from that. Some of that will be out of their hands because of the vaccine not being mandatory at this point but still other parts will be down to how well they've distributed the vaccine throughout their state and how well the process of getting people vaccinated has gone. FL is not the highest there.

 

[Heigh-Ho]

CA has vaccinated more people in total. Texas has as well over FL. But that's not really the numbers that make the big picture. Vaccines were distributed by populations of each state you can't fault states for not having the same population as some of these big states and thus those big states having more vaccine to work with.

If you want to know how well on a large scale how so and so state is doing it's what are they doing with the vaccines they've been given and how many people have been vaccinated from that. Some of that will be out of their hands because of the vaccine not being mandatory at this point but still other parts will be down to how well they've distributed the vaccine throughout their state and how well the process of getting people vaccinated has gone. FL is not the highest there.

I hadn't thought to even consider this but you do make at least some sense here. Done by population some of these states had to have gotten more in vaccines than the entire population of other states You would hope they would be able to vaccinate more people!