Casey Anthony NOT GUILTY & Sentencing Thread 6

[walden]

Edit because the question was already asked and answered.

 

[Wadecool]

The Scott Peterson trial was as high profile (if not more so), less evidence, he was convicted and is sitting on death row.

Apparently, Scott Peterson just had the wrong attorney.

 

[Kurby]

The Scott Peterson trial was as high profile (if not more so), less evidence, he was convicted and is sitting on death row.

which makes me wonder if Casey was the father and not a mother would "He" have been convicted.

is it easier to believe that a father would murder his child over a mother?

 

[MaryAnnDVC]

How exciting, MaryAnn!!! Come back and let us all know!!!

DH & I watched too much last night, between Nancy Grace, NBC Nightly News, Piers Morgan, Anderson Cooper …. no one saw this coming AT ALL. AT ALL. CA is guilty and she got away with murder.

I will say quite a few of those interviewed in those segments were DISGUSTED at the defense team partying after the verdict. One atty was even jumping up and down and up and down, she looked like an idiot.

Oh, I'll be announcing the gender all over the place!

Mommy Sims did look like an idiot jumping up and down. Mason's office was nearby...they could've gone there and quietly popped the champagne bottle. They absolutely MEANT to stick it in everyone's faces, when the fact was, no matter what the verdict, Caylee is DEAD and was tossed like garbage. But that was never one of the defense's concerns, so why now, I guess.

Well I know exactly what happened. The jury doesn't think Caylee is dead. They think she's out at Universal with Zanny the Nanny.

With Samantha and Annabelle! Or is Annabelle the daughter of the well off guy Casey knew in Jr/HS who Cindy had high hopes of Casey hooking up with? *scratches head* So not good at keeping track of her lies.

Casey has been subpoenaed for a deposition July 19 at the Morgan and Morgan law firm. Zanaida Gonzalez is suing her for defamation. And she cannot plead the fifth as she was already tried and no longer needs the protection....

Oh boy, I can't wait to hear her tell the truth. Wait...what am I saying? What did Judge Strickland say...the truth and Miss Anthony are strangers?

 

[The_Alice]

This is my first post on the subject and on this thread, so please forgive if I offend since I also have not followed every in and out of this case. But, I too believe the man 1 was a stretch. I think that this whole situation is sad all around, but I do believe that she is responsible for the death of her child.

Now, whether this was accidental b/c mommy wanted to party and panicked when she realized what she had done. Or if this was premeditated, that child's life was in her hands, she is responsible, she failed her daughter mortally.

I think that the jury was looking for some iron clad proof like you see on all the crime dramas on television, some fantastic piece of DNA or scientific evidence that would say to them beyond a shadow of a doubt, she did it.

While the burden of proof relied on the state, the defense did nothing but throw one hypothesis after another (she drowned, there was molestation in her past, etc.) and they proved none of it. The point is, they had much more to look at from the state than they did the defense. If her mother didn't kill her then who? Who did it? A 2 year old doesn't do this to herself, so who?

 

[Wadecool]

Casey has been subpoenaed for a deposition July 19 at the Morgan and Morgan law firm. Zanaida Gonzalez is suing her for defamation. And she cannot plead the fifth as she was already tried and no longer needs the protection....

Good! Hopefully, Gonzalez will take her for every penny she gets in the future.

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

"To those who tried to convict me...BIG mistake. HUGE! I'm going to go shopping my offers now..."


ICA embracing her Pretty Woman/Rodeo Drive Moment





This is just so disturbing that she just won the lottery. Irony indeed.


Here is hoping John Morgan has better luck! At least Civil law is less burdensome on what is needed to win a lawsuit.

 

[Dr.Girlfriend]

This is an interesting tidbit of info from the Scott Peterson case:

In later press appearances, members of the jury stated that they felt that Peterson's demeanor—specifically, his lack of emotion, and the phone calls to Amber Frey in the days following Laci's disappearance—indicated that he was guilty. They based their verdict on "hundreds of small 'puzzle pieces' of circumstantial evidence that came out during the trial, from the location of Laci Peterson's body to the myriad lies her husband told after her disappearance." They also decided on the death penalty because they felt Peterson betrayed his responsibility to protect his wife and son.

I truly believe that the jury was in the wrong in Casey's trial. Something just isn't right. Be it the jury was tired of being locked up for so long, be it they wanted that guy to get on his cruise, be it they were talking amongst themselves. I cannot believe they truly felt she did no wrong doing or had nothing to do with Caylee's death.

 

[Conservative Hippie]

Casey has been subpoenaed for a deposition July 19 at the Morgan and Morgan law firm. Zanaida Gonzalez is suing her for defamation. And she cannot plead the fifth as she was already tried and no longer needs the protection....

So she could say yes I killed my daughter and lied about it, and nothing would happen to her at all.

 

[Mosoh]

Exactly! Also, I think people are getting mad at the wrong people here. I blame the state. They went for the homerun with 1st degree murder instead of just going for manslaughter. There was never enough evidence for premeditation, and that hurt the case. What I still don't understand is the not guilty on child abuse. I can understand the not guilty on murder because reasonable doubt exists there. But negligence, IMO, is child abuse.

Lastly, I think this quote is very fitting for this case:

"It is more important that innocence be protected than it is that guilt be punished, for guilt and crimes are so frequent in this world that they cannot all be punished. But if innocence itself is brought to the bar and condemned, perhaps to die, then the citizen will say, "whether I do good or whether I do evil is immaterial, for innocence itself is no protection," and if such an idea as that were to take hold in the mind of the citizen that would be the end of security whatsoever." - John Adams

No it's not fitting

I bet John Adamns would have know that lesser charges were filed

So many have questioned this that you have to wonder why so many people chime in without knowing the facts

 

[joviroxx]

So she could say yes I killed my daughter and lied about it, and nothing would happen to her at all.

Double Jeopardy.. She can't be tried twice. Not sure how an outright confession would work, but no need to keep quiet about details now.

 

[MaryAnnDVC]

Something on InSession about the media wanting the names of the jurors...there will be a hearing tomorrow at 1:30 PM.

This is an interesting tidbit of info from the Scott Peterson case:

In later press appearances, members of the jury stated that they felt that Peterson's demeanor—specifically, his lack of emotion, and the phone calls to Amber Frey in the days following Laci's disappearance—indicated that he was guilty. They based their verdict on "hundreds of small 'puzzle pieces' of circumstantial evidence that came out during the trial, from the location of Laci Peterson's body to the myriad lies her husband told after her disappearance." They also decided on the death penalty because they felt Peterson betrayed his responsibility to protect his wife and son.

I truly believe that the jury was in the wrong in Casey's trial. Something just isn't right. Be it the jury was tired of being locked up for so long, be it they wanted that guy to get on his cruise, be it they were talking amongst themselves. I cannot believe they truly felt she did no wrong doing or had nothing to do with Caylee's death.

I agree. The Scott Peterson jurors "got it" about the puzzle pieces.

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

No it's not fitting

I bet John Adamns would have know that lesser charges were filed

So many have questioned this that you have to wonder why so many people chime in without knowing the facts

I keep Hearing this about John Adams.

I am curious (yes really!) if the Massachusetts Colony had Sunshine laws making the evidence obtained by the government public record before trial.

I also wonder if John Adams was permitted to slander the victims without evidence of truth to get his clients off.


We did study that a little bit and it all seemed to me that reasonable dour was possible. (Something dd and I read a few months back mentioned that it was unclear of who fired first..not home to dig up the resource and my memory is foggy.)

This case was nothing like the Boston Massacre.

He didn't accuse the parents of the accused of abuse.

 

[ols386]

Mommy Sims did look like an idiot jumping up and down. Mason's office was nearby...they could've gone there and quietly popped the champagne bottle. They absolutely MEANT to stick it in everyone's faces, when the fact was, no matter what the verdict, Caylee is DEAD and was tossed like garbage. But that was never one of the defense's concerns, so why now, I guess.

Yes, they did. Every one of those individuals on the defense team who were celebrating and toasting champaign, are disgusting. I guess they quickly forgot after the verdict, that an innocent little girl is dead.

Exactly! Also, I think people are getting mad at the wrong people here. I blame the state. They went for the homerun with 1st degree murder instead of just going for manslaughter. There was never enough evidence for premeditation, and that hurt the case. What I still don't understand is the not guilty on child abuse. I can understand the not guilty on murder because reasonable doubt exists there. But negligence, IMO, is child abuse.

Lastly, I think this quote is very fitting for this case:

"It is more important that innocence be protected than it is that guilt be punished, for guilt and crimes are so frequent in this world that they cannot all be punished. But if innocence itself is brought to the bar and condemned, perhaps to die, then the citizen will say, "whether I do good or whether I do evil is immaterial, for innocence itself is no protection," and if such an idea as that were to take hold in the mind of the citizen that would be the end of security whatsoever." - John Adams

They also could have convicted her of 2nd degree murder, or aggrevated manslaughter.

 

[MusiqChic99]

This is an interesting tidbit of info from the Scott Peterson case:

In later press appearances, members of the jury stated that they felt that Peterson's demeanor—specifically, his lack of emotion, and the phone calls to Amber Frey in the days following Laci's disappearance—indicated that he was guilty. They based their verdict on "hundreds of small 'puzzle pieces' of circumstantial evidence that came out during the trial, from the location of Laci Peterson's body to the myriad lies her husband told after her disappearance." They also decided on the death penalty because they felt Peterson betrayed his responsibility to protect his wife and son.

I truly believe that the jury was in the wrong in Casey's trial. Something just isn't right. Be it the jury was tired of being locked up for so long, be it they wanted that guy to get on his cruise, be it they were talking amongst themselves. I cannot believe they truly felt she did no wrong doing or had nothing to do with Caylee's death.

I agree. There may not have been a "smoking gun" in this case but there were plenty of pieces that when put together as a whole..fit.

I'm disturbed at the little time it took for them to reach the verdict of not guilty. Did they even go over everything? It's very upsetting.

 

[Dr.Girlfriend]

I kinda want to know what John Walsh of America's Most Wanted thinks about all of this

 

[Dr.Girlfriend]

I agree. There may not have been a "smoking gun" in this case but there were plenty of pieces that when put together as a whole..fit.

I'm disturbed at the little time it took for them to reach the verdict of not guilty. Did they even go over everything? It's very upsetting.

I read somewhere that the jury did not ask for even a single piece of evidence to look at. I would have to try and find the article again.

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

Double Jeopardy.. She can't be tried twice. Not sure how an outright confession would work, but no need to keep quiet about details now.

And that is a shame.

I can understand the need for it. It prevents the governmen from continually harassing you--they get one shot to prove their case.

However, a confession after acquittal should not count.

I can only guess as to why even a confession would not be grounds for charges.

 

[Mosoh]

I keep Hearing this about John Adams.

I am curious (yes really!) if the Massachusetts Colony had Sunshine laws making the evidence obtained by the government public record before trial.

I also wonder if John Adams was permitted to slander the victims without evidence of truth to get his clients off.


We did study that a little bit and it all seemed to me that reasonable dour was possible. (Something dd and I read a few months back mentioned that it was unclear of who fired first..not home to dig up the resource and my memory is foggy.)

This case was nothing like the Boston Massacre.

He didn't accuse the parents of the accused of abuse.

I highly doubt out and out slanderous lies were part of the accepted norm

This imo has to change. Not only is it morally questionable, juries have now proven not bright enough to understand the applicable law and they can't be sued. It's wrong and I hope changes are made to OS rules and regulations

 

[LisaR]

What is the JAC? I emailed Richard Hornsby and asked if Casey would need to pay back the State of FL since she knew this was "just a drowning" and three years of resources were wasted tracking down imaginary people, sequestering jurors, etc. He replied:

Yes, because she was convicted of misdemeanors, she will be responsible for paying back the JAC.

What is the JAC? Does this mean she is responsible for the entire cost of the trial? How about the fact that the tax payers are paying for extra security in the Orlando area, the fees associated with the jury, the extra protection that Casey needed for her own safety, etc. Any idea on what exactly she will be responsible for?