Cases rising or dropping by you?

Yes, I agree that going out to eat is a terrible idea.
Eating outside is at least considered less risky. If you're uncomfortable with eating out that's certainly understandable but I can think of more terrible ideas that people engage in right in their very homes.
 
I heard that my county has the third-highest cases in my state. Not sure if that was total or "new cases" for a specific time frame. Regardless, I'm not happy.
 

Am I the only one who thinks this is ridiculous?

You're not the only one who thinks the Tweet is a bit dumb.
  • I have virtually unlimited confidence that the good people of CA are smart enough to know to take their mask off to eat.
  • And...the verbiage contradicts the graphic
    • Tweet: Off, bite; On, chew and swallow; Off, bite; On, chew and swallow.
    • Graphic: "Minimize the number of times you take your mask off."
 
Am I the only one who thinks this is ridiculous?

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Am I the only one who thinks this is ridiculous?

No, this is beyond ridiculous. It is insane and unrealistic. Looking at the graphic though- keep on mask while seated and looking at menu, take off while eating, put back on when finished with your meal. That's what I do anyway the few times I have been seated inside a restaurant. I'm not doing that while patio dining outside. I'm just getting really tired of being scolded, lectured and told to keep six feet apart, wear a mask, and wash hands. Yes, I know- I'm not living under a rock. :confused3
 
Georgia is still dropping away.

7 day average of new cases is about where it was on June 22nd. The state more or less was allowed to open June 11th but it took awhile before people started venturing out. As for hospitalizations we are about at the July 1st level which makes sense since hospitalizations tend to trail.

At this pace the state should reach a daily average of around 500 cases per day in about a month. I think that is the level were it will simmer until enough are immune through cases or vaccine to reach herd immunity.

My local school district has been back in person for about 8 weeks now. In that time 100,000 students and staff have been in person with another 80,000 doing digital. In that time there have been 243 reported cases between student and staff.

That works out to .02% Two one hundredths of a percent of the students or staff have tested positive since August 18th.

October 13th is the official date where you can switch from in person to digital or digital to in person. In reality they have allowed people to switch earlier. My wife has been notified that four of her eight remote learners have opted to return in person.
 
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No, this is beyond ridiculous. It is insane and unrealistic. Looking at the graphic though- keep on mask while seated and looking at menu, take off while eating, put back on when finished with your meal. That's what I do anyway the few times I have been seated inside a restaurant. I'm not doing that while patio dining outside. I'm just getting really tired of being scolded, lectured and told to keep six feet apart, wear a mask, and wash hands. Yes, I know- I'm not living under a rock. :confused3
I can live with that part - I'm in a place where masking and distancing aren't really political or ideological "hills to die on" and compliance is generally very high. The message is constantly being reinforced and my family and I, as well as most people we know, follow the mandated requirements to the letter. What I do resent is the implication that it all isn't enough; that prudent people wouldn't dream of eating indoors at restaurants even when all involved are 100% compliant. Why? We either trust that our authorities (who are setting the rules) know what they are talking about or we don't.

I have eaten indoors a dozen or so times since our restaurants were allowed to re-open at the end of July. Always with a small number (6 is the maximum here) of my immediate cohort, always at a table well-distanced from the rest of the sparse crowd and always masked when not actually eating. The servers remain masked at all times, the place is constantly swabbed with sanitizer, disposable paper menus used, etc. What is the real risk here? There have been an increase in cases here since schools resumed and a significant outbreak in one of our hospitals but nothing at all linked to restaurants.
 
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I haven't eaten indoors in a restaurant in the state of Wisconsin since February. Since then I've eaten inside a restaurant twice, both times in Ohio. I go to Florida next week and am planning on eating at a restaurant outside in Cocoa Beach.

My county was 2nd in new cases in the state today, after leading the state yesterday. A large number of them are coming from the local prison, it was reported today that 20% of the inmates currently have COVID.

The Governor today came out with an executive order limiting public gatherings to 25% of normal capacity.
 
Cases are on the rise in our county. There was a big increase when the school district I live in went back a few weeks ago. The high school a mile away made it one day before they had to quarantine half the kids and staff. Instead of quarantining, however, many of the students have decided to have large gatherings and cases increased because of those. Between that and another school district in the county going from remote to in-person, the county health department came out today and said if there is not a decrease in cases then they are going to go from Level 2 back to Level 3. Schools, restaurants, and businesses will be closed again.

In the past 3 weeks our positivity rate in the county has gone from 2.9% to 7%.
 
I have eaten indoors a dozen or so times since our restaurants were allowed to re-open at the end of July. Always with a small number (6 is the maximum here) of my immediate cohort, always at a table well-distanced from the rest of the sparse crowd and always masked when not actually eating. The servers remain masked at all times, the place is constantly swabbed with sanitizer, disposable paper menus used, etc. What is the real risk here? There have been an increase in cases here since schools resumed and a significant outbreak in one of our hospitals but nothing at all linked to restaurants.
I have eaten in a restaurant twice a day for at least the last six weeks, and once a day for about four months before that. About half and half inside vs outside, and this in many different countries. Breakfast is always a buffet, self service. Masks not always required to enter. But I agree with you that restaurants don't seem to be a source of outbreaks (again, not talking about the US, things may be different there)

Not a lot of paper or disposable items in use either where I was, thankfully (the impact on the environment from all this disposable is really not good, and at least the environment is back to the top subject in my daily newspaper, and the Friday rallies have returned)
 
My county just did a HUGE adjustment to the positivity rate calculation. I have found that seeing other people's comments we probably aren't on the same page as far as how the positivity is being calculated. Under the adjustment my county's positivity level went from 11.3% to 6.6%. Seriously that is almost in half!

So there was a total of 3 different ways listed in how to calculate in local article:

1) New positive cases/'Unique tests". This was the method the county was using.
  • Under this method if a person was tested multiple times and was negative only their FIRST negative test was counted. However, if a person was tested multiple times and tested positive at any of those additional tests they were added to the new positive cases. This meant the positivity rate would likely be high overall due to increased availability in testing. As more and more tests have become available more and more people are actually able to be retested over time.

2) New positive cases/individuals tested This is the new method the county is using.
  • Under this method a person's test is counted within a 14-day window both positive and negative and it doesn't matter if a person was tested previously, it will still count. However, if a person tests negative multiple times within this 14-day window additional negative tests beyond the first one won't be counted. This is apparently what the CDC uses (per my local news article). According to the news article the reason for only being counted once if negative within the 14-day window is because of people whose occupation requires frequent testing it could create a positivity rate that is lower than what is actually reflective of the given community.

3) New positive cases/total tests. This is the method my state is using.
  • Under this method a person's test is counted both positive and negative but in addition multiple negative tests from the same individual are also counted. Hence the total tests part. This means those whose occupations requires frequent testing are included in the total test bucket.

Whew, and that peeps is why it's important to know where our numbers are coming from!
 
I have eaten indoors a dozen or so times since our restaurants were allowed to re-open at the end of July. Always with a small number (6 is the maximum here) of my immediate cohort, always at a table well-distanced from the rest of the sparse crowd and always masked when not actually eating. The servers remain masked at all times, the place is constantly swabbed with sanitizer, disposable paper menus used, etc. What is the real risk here? There have been an increase in cases here since schools resumed and a significant outbreak in one of our hospitals but nothing at all linked to restaurants.

I was okay with indoor dining for a while, then my mom got sick and I went back to outdoor and take-out online. But I noticed the same thing about the lack of restaurant cases. We have had three local restaurants with cases among the front-of-house staff and none were linked to subsequent cases. It was honestly more than a little surprising to me, considering the indoor setting and the not-great ventilation at two of the three restaurants.
 
I was okay with indoor dining for a while, then my mom got sick and I went back to outdoor and take-out online. But I noticed the same thing about the lack of restaurant cases. We have had three local restaurants with cases among the front-of-house staff and none were linked to subsequent cases. It was honestly more than a little surprising to me, considering the indoor setting and the not-great ventilation at two of the three restaurants.
I'm fairly sure tracing isn't all it could be and I also find it curious that no cases (or very few) are being attributed to restaurants, airplanes, mass transit and what-have-you. It's really not that logical but then again, what is? :confused3 We are seemingly full-on into a surge in our province and I've yet to know one single person personally or even reasonably closely associated, that has actually had Covid.
 
I was okay with indoor dining for a while, then my mom got sick and I went back to outdoor and take-out online. But I noticed the same thing about the lack of restaurant cases. We have had three local restaurants with cases among the front-of-house staff and none were linked to subsequent cases. It was honestly more than a little surprising to me, considering the indoor setting and the not-great ventilation at two of the three restaurants.

I’m wondering if we will see more cases in restaurants as we get deeper into the winter? Most of the restaurants by us have only had a few people inside and spread very far apart. Once they start to fill up more, I wonder what will happen.

I keep thinking about how there were a couple restaurants in China back in the Spring that reported cases of people getting infected from clear across the other side of the room due to the ventilation systems. This just stayed in my mind and I think for at least this winter we will stick to take out for the most part.

I also don’t think contract tracing is anywhere close to where it should be. Most of the time no one has a clue how they became infected.
 

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