Caitlyn Jenner

[TLSnell1981]

And this would be his thought on his deathbed...

"If I was lying on my death bed and I had kept this secret and never did anything about it, I would be lying there saying, 'You just blew your entire life."

So totally self-absorbed and in denial of the broken trail he left behind. But perhaps 'Caitlyn' can help, time will tell.

You hit the nail on the head.

 

[DisneyFan32WI]

She looks more like a Susan or a Donna to me.

 

[Poohbug]

Anybody that pimps their family the way he and Kris do most certainly have mental health issues. I can't agree more about being this self-absorbed. Once you're a parent, sorry, it's not all about "you" anymore. So tired of the way people have worshipped these money hungry selfish whiny brats. I'll save my admiration for someone with some self respect and humility.

I have to agree with you. After watching the GMA interview with Vogue and snippets of the Diane Sawyer interview Bruce/Caitlyn's words do not reflect in his/her actions. He was so concerned about how his children would deal with his transition, they were the most important thing in his life. But then the first thing Caitlyn does is a media grab and that cover pose would embarrass any child. (No child wants to see their parent in a bustier.) I don't think the gender reassignment is necessarily being done for ratings but she is milking it for all the media attention she can get.

 

[kimmar067]

I strongly suspect the pregnancy announcement was timed to upstage.

....nahhhhh....just a happy coinky-dinky. [ ]

 

[kimmar067]

Welp, add one more lovely lady to the list of people prettier than me!

....I kinda have a hard time with that one too...

 

[Rhombus]

I'm only objecting to the spelling of ex-Bruce's new name. Should be with a K. NOT because of any association with that family; simply because Kaitlyn looks better in print. I don't like the looks of Cate (Blanchett), or the various Cathys, Cathleens, Catherines, etc. Even the British princess was wise enough to go with Kate. She knows what looks better in tabloid headlines.

 

[cabanafrau]

She looks more like a Susan or a Donna to me.

You know, you're right. I felt like I was being petty and judgy thinking I didn't like the name, didn't feel like it fit. Because I couldn't come up with one that did, I just thought I was being negative. Both of your suggestions feel more fitting to me.

 

[deedeetoo]

You know, you're right. I felt like I was being petty and judgy thinking I didn't like the name, didn't feel like it fit. Because I couldn't come up with one that did, I just thought I was being negative. Both of your suggestions feel more fitting to me.

Agree. Here is the problem with the name Caitlyn - no one who was born when Caitlyn was born has that name. It isn't age appropriate. It would have been better to have looked at what names were common for baby girls 65 years ago and picked one of those. Then it would look right. But too late.

 

[AnAmericanInDisney]

You know, you're right. I felt like I was being petty and judgy thinking I didn't like the name, didn't feel like it fit. Because I couldn't come up with one that did, I just thought I was being negative. Both of your suggestions feel more fitting to me.

Maybe Carol? It has the "k" sound.

 

[EMom]

Carol is very age appropriate. Caitlyn is more like a 20-25 year old. Just doesn't fit. But then again, maybe the "inner voice" said, "You're a 23 year old woman."

 

[cabanafrau]

Maybe Carol? It has the "k" sound.

Nope, putting my petty hat back on. Carol is a blonde name. All of the Carol's I know are blonde so that is stuck in my mind and will not work for me.

 

[cabanafrau]

Carol is very age appropriate. Caitlyn is more like a 20-25 year old. Just doesn't fit. But then again, maybe the "inner voice" said, "You're a 23 year old woman."

Or quite possibly a TV network exec said you're going to have your own reality show, Carol isn't going to work for our demographic.

 

[OKW Lover]

Why do we care what name she picked?

 

[pryncess527]

It is interesting that in all of the discussion of gender identity it keeps cycling back to it not being about sexuality, not being about genitals, not being about hobbies and/or interests, yet what is it really? It has to be about more than what department your clothes come from, yet that seems to be one of the only things pointed to when you try and define it or what a transitioning person wants out of it.

I left DNA out of my comments because I'm not aware that DNA identification can specify gender.

I've been thinking about this today, and read something on another site that really helped me wrap my head around it.

I think a lot of people have trouble understanding transgender issues because they try to see themselves as trans, but come at it from the wrong direction. i.e. a cis woman tries to understand transness by going, “what if I felt like/wanted to be a man” when she should be approaching it as “what if I, a woman, was so easily mistaken for a man that I had to pretend to be one”,

And I think this is something to keep in mind and to explain away when trying to get these matters across to people who are new to the idea.

If I had cancer and lost my breasts and reproductive system as a result, that does not make me any less woman. It's hard to put a finger on what it is that makes me feel feminine. I do like pink, and skirts, and curling my hair, and having shaved legs - but it doesn't feel right to say any one of those things, or even all of those things cumulatively, make me feminine. I love watching football, and playing video games, but those things don't make me feel masculine.

If society saw me as male, and called me a male name, I can see how that would have made youth, and adulthood, very confusing. And I can see how it might be very painful, particularly in a society that still carries many gender expectations. Boys who want to play with dolls might be teased as being gay. Girls who love sports get called tomboys. Not all of those kids associate with a gender other than the one in which they present, but I can see how those assumptions about gender become more painful to a child who's innate response to "dolls are for girls" is to think, "but I feel like a girl"

 

[whoiam]

Or quite possibly a TV network exec said you're going to have your own reality show, Carol isn't going to work for our demographic.

Or maybe...she just liked the name?

 

[DisneyFan32WI]

Why do we care what name she picked?

Because something is "off" about it. Caitlyn is 65 years old, and she chose a name that fits a 25 year old.

 

[disney4us2002]

My inner self tells me I am a princess; please refer to me now as Princess Carla or Your Highness. JK, lol.... really just being silly.

Not that it matters even 1 iota but if Bruce always felt like a Caitlyn and married three women, does that mean that she is gay? Will she still love women or will she want a man now. Again, it doesn't matter; I'm just kinda curious how this all works.

 

[Dizlvr]

I don't really think the name Caitlyn fits her, to me its like she's a character on Dynasty. Crystal, Alexis and Caitlyn.
I see her more as a Beverly. Not sure why, not even sure if that fits her age group either.

 

[Rhombus]

I have to agree Caitlyn (or Kaitlyn) doesn't fit a 65 year old woman. (I thought she was perhaps 60 tops).

It looks like she's facing the same criticisms many women do: comments about her name, appearance, weight, hair style, clothing choices, etc. I suppose Bruce knew it would be coming.

 

[Mizzoufan]

She might have asked the kids help on the name. To me it doesn't matter if her name is Caitlyn or Bertha. A name is just a name.